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I’ve pretty much uploaded all of my music to my WDPR2100 NAS. Well at least on the tail end. It’s taking me over a week to figure it out and to copy to NAS. So I’m trying to figure out how to use my NAS to play music on Sonos now. I’m not having much luck. I’ve searched here and found a few old post. One post took me to this...https://support.sonos.com/s/article/78?language=en_US. I followed the directions on my Windows laptop and and my iPhone. Took me a few try’s on the iPhone to get to the Next button. I typed in \\y:mycloudpr2100\music and Next highlighted finally. But when I hit Next I get the message The computer y:mycloudpr2100 cannot be found. I tried my user name and password and still same message. Do I need to configure this on my Windows laptop first before my iPhone? What am I missing here? 

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Best answer by Dcgman#1 5 June 2021, 14:51

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buzz

SONOS supports up to 16 folders in the library. The subfolder structure is arbitrary, but the track limit is always 65,000.

For me one of the best aspects of SONOS is that I don’t need any music stored on my computer and the computer is not involved in playing music. When I’m developing software I’ll sometimes need to reboot my computer or if I’m rebuilding the computer, the music doesn’t stop. And, I’m a speed demon. Playing music saps some of the computer’s resources and slows things a bit. There is none of this with SONOS. Unless you are playing music stored on a computer or playing through an App, once you start a Playlist or online source, all of the computers and controllers can be shut down.

Since I’m a speed demon, if I’m on a major ripping project, I’ll rip to the computer and edit the Metadata on the computer files because this is much faster than dealing with a NAS across the network. After I’m satisfied with the Metadata, I’ll transfer the new arrivals to the NAS library. The transfer can be done in the background while I’m making a sandwich or I’m out and about.

Belly M
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The path you are using is incorrect / illegal, drop the “y:” and try again.

 

Belly M
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Can you connect to \\mycloudpr2100\music using file explorer or whatever it’s called nowadays in Windows. In the utility you used to configure the NAS the name is mycloudpr2100 ?

bockersjv
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You add your NAS as a music library

 In the Sonos App

 click on settings, then system

 then scroll down to “Music library”

 then “Music library set up”

Then “Add shared music folder” and find the folder on your NAS where you’ve stored your music

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I’m currently using the Music Library to access music from NAS. Simple. Don’t know why I didn’t look at that before. I assumed I needed the My Cloud Home app in order to stream music from NAS to Sonos. So what is the My Cloud Home app used for? Do I need it? Obviously it shows no music in there. So now that most of my music folder/files are in my WD NAS and on my Sonos app I don’t need to keep almost 1TB of music on my Windows laptop or old MAC anymore? I can delete them to open up more space on my drives? I have my NAS for storage/streaming and for backing up those files. I’ll also have my portable external hard drives for my music files as an extra protection? So can I access my Sonos and NAS from around the world to play music while I’m not home? 
What can you tell me about Plex? Or Twonky? That’s my next project. Lol. 1 step at a time. I have both apps in my WD My Cloud. I heard nice things about Plex. Do I need it? 
Thank you again Amun, BellyM, Ken Griffiths and bockersjv for your help. Much appreciated. It just took some patience and investigating to get it up and running. 

buzz

Dcgman#1,

The SONOS library can include up to 65,000 tracks, however, if your Metadata (Album name, Track Title, Composer, etc.) is lengthy, you may run out of index space before reaching 65,000 tracks. Space is an issue because the index is stored in the SONOS players and they have finite RAM available. The SONOS library supports up to 16 segments. There is no need to delete any music files from the NAS. One solution for track overflow is to partition your library into multiple folders. For example you could have ‘music/Christmas’, ‘music/Halloween’, etc. and include only the folders appropriate for the season. Note that you have no control over the index build order. If the indexer terminates early, due to reaching a limit, and you try again, the list of tracks included will probably not be identical.

I don’t know how you built your library. While using the SONOS App to play music through the SONOS system, it is possible that nothing or very little will be listed in the Artist, Track, Composer, etc. sections of the library if there is no Metadata present in the track files, however, you will be able to see all of the tracks in the Folders section of the library.

If you have not already done this, disable the recycle bin of your NAS. Since you have no control over the library build order and the indexer will not process duplicates, you may encounter situations where changes to the Metadata will be ignored if the recycle folder is scanned first.

buzz

BTW. SONOS never writes to (or deletes from) your music library.

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Looking through my Sonos app I noticed my SonosNet was not connected. All my WM’s were 1, not 0. Found out my Boost plug was not plugged in. Must of unplugged a week or 2 ago while my son was moving items around in the room where the router and Boost are in. Anyways it’s back up and running. That has nothing to do with my Sonos not seeing the NAS. I also found that the the last music files did update in the WD NAS. It’s in My Cloud folders/files. But not in my iMac shared music files. I didn’t load them into it. Only into MyCloud shared music. I haven’t deleted the iMac or iTunes shared music yet as I have to go to a birthday party in a few. So I will continue this later today. Fingers crossed the Sonos will play off the MyCloud shared music after I delete the other 2. 

D
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SONOS supports up to 16 folders in the library. The subfolder structure is arbitrary, but the track limit is always 65,000.

For me one of the best aspects of SONOS is that I don’t need any music stored on my computer and the computer is not involved in playing music. When I’m developing software I’ll sometimes need to reboot my computer or if I’m rebuilding the computer, the music doesn’t stop. And, I’m a speed demon. Playing music saps some of the computer’s resources and slows things a bit. There is none of this with SONOS. Unless you are playing music stored on a computer or playing through an App, once you start a Playlist or online source, all of the computers and controllers can be shut down.

Since I’m a speed demon, if I’m on a major ripping project, I’ll rip to the computer and edit the Metadata on the computer files because this is much faster than dealing with a NAS across the network. After I’m satisfied with the Metadata, I’ll transfer the new arrivals to the NAS library. The transfer can be done in the background while I’m making a sandwich or I’m out and about.

This is what I’m trying to accomplish. No music stored on my Computers. I want to play Sonos on the NAS. And have all my music and photos in NAS. Free up space and speed on my computers. 

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Got home around 330. Took a nap. Must of been the IPA’s. Deleted the 2 music files. Redid the \\mycloud. Only one Sonos see’s now. Bingo. Got it! Thx again everyone. Mac is powered off. Laptop powered off. Next, cancel iCloud. 

Ken_Griffiths

Sonos uses the older SMBv1 protocol for sharing the library, so you probably need to change your NAS settings so that the NAS share supports that.

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Sonos uses the older SMBv1 protocol for sharing the library, so you probably need to change your NAS settings so that the NAS share supports that.

That was my be of the first things I did when I was in my NAS settings. I selected all 3, SMBv1, 2

& 3.

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The path you are using is incorrect / illegal, drop the “y:” and try again.

 

I dropped (y:) and typed in \\mycloudpr2100\music, user name and password and I get  access denied check user name and password. I thought maybe I typed wrong password but when I opened up on my iPad browser with user name and password I have access to my music files. 

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Can you connect to \\mycloudpr2100\music using file explorer or whatever it’s called nowadays in Windows. In the utility you used to configure the NAS the name is mycloudpr2100 ?

Yes. I’m in it now uploading the rest of my music folders to NAS, MyCloudpr2100. While it’s uploading I’ve been trying to figure out how to use my NAS on my Sonos with my iPad and iPhone.  I knew going into this NAS thing it was going to take me some time as I am completely new to it. But I’ve figured out how to get my music library from from old Mac to new Windows laptop to NAS.

Belly M
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The music folder on the NAS is shared? in other words when you connect to \\mycloudpr2100\music you do then have tonavigate into the music folder.

 

beyond that try a router power cycle and then a restart of the NAS (best to use the WD utility to do this). Double check SMB 1 is still turned on,

 

 

 

 

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The music folder on the NAS is shared? in other words when you connect to \\mycloudpr2100\music you do then navigate into the music folder.

 

beyond that try a router power cycle and then a restart of the NAS (best to use the WD utility to do this). Double check SMB 1 is still turned on,

 

 

 

 

If you mean shared as shared with pubic? No. When I first created the folder I named it music and another one for photos. Both are not shared to the public. But when opened it does navigate into the music file when I opened it up on my iOS (iPhone/iPad). I can see the music files being downloaded to MyCloud disk going from the Windows to NAS drive. I can’t power down the router right now as I’m still trying to finish up the music upload to NAS. I have over 64,000 files to transfer and more on another external hard drive I’ll do later. Just want to get most of my music in NAS to make sure everything works. 

Belly M
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Try just \\mycloudpr2100 and see what happens.

Do you have 64,000 music tracks?

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Try just \\mycloudpr2100 and see what happens.

Do you have 64,000 music tracks?

Yes. But 90% of it has been transferred to NAS already. I tried to transfer all of it at one time a couple of days ago and it kept stopping and I’d have to start over from where the last song took on my NAS. So I regrouped and started to go by alphabetically. I’m on the U & W’s right now. I started early this morning at 5 on the D’s. Maybe I’m doing it all wrong? But it seems to be transferring so far. Lol. I’m not that computer savvy for sure. But I think I’m getting it. I still have to do all my photos. After I can get my NAS playing on my Sonos first.

Belly M
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Sonos does not like large libraries unfortunately 65k is the max limit, there are workaround but most users hit the buffers waybefore 65k due to metadata / artwork.

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Sonos does not like large libraries unfortunately 65k is the max limit, there are workaround but most users hit the buffers waybefore 65k due to metadata / artwork.

Yes I read that on the forum here. I’ll delete a lot of after I get everything in NAS. Just trying to get it into NAS first. I also have Plex, which I haven’t dealt with yet. That’s next. So I should still be able to get my Sonos to see my music files on my NAS? Correct? I just can’t sign in for it to see each other.

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Maybe I need to start deleting some of the music files before?

Belly M
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You will be able to index your music on Sonos, there will be stuff missing.

 

when you can try a reboot , if no joy you will probably have to ring Sonos so they can connect and see what’s going on.

D
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You will be able to index your music on Sonos, there will be stuff missing.

 

when you can try a reboot 

Sorry, don’t understand. If I delete some music first? I might be able to index music on Sonos? But they’ll be stuff missing?

Belly M
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Sonos database fills up, not enough space so tracks / albums will not be listed if there are too many tracks. Less tracks, then fine.

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I think I understand you. My NAS is still filling up with my music. I’m sure it’s around 65,000 right now. The disk will keep filling up as there’s no limit except for the size of the disk (4TB, or 2TB each using one for backup). But my Sonos will not recognize the NAS disk right now because it has too many files (65,000). So that’s preventing me from signing on Sonos app you think? Do I need to delete my music files/songs down to around 60,000 before I can use NAS with Sonos? And thank you for being patient with me. I’m about to take a break from this and continue another time or day. A great way to spend a Friday. I started this venture over 10 days ago when my new laptop and WD NAS arrived. Just transferring from MAC to external drive to laptop took forever. Now I’m trying to get my Sonos to play from NAS. I was told it was an adventure and may take some time. Lol.

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