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I have nearly $2000 of Sonos equipment. I love Sonos. Now comes Trueplay for tuning my Sonos speakers. What? Only iOS? Does anyone else here have an Android phone? I have used a Yamaha 4000 sound bar for years with speaker tuning and I love it. I really think Trueplay would improve my Sonos experience so I guess I better get an iPhone? :S:?
I would assume that Sonos is doing everything possible to figure out a way to bring TruePlay to Android. That being said, I also assume that it's an extremely complex issue, given the wide variety of hardware on Android devices.

People saying they are in doubt about buying sonos for this reason are silly. im an android user and have not fine tuned my speakers, Sonos still sounds damn good. And how hard can it be to borrow an apple device. There are so many sheeps with apple stuff. 


Sonos will introduce Auto Trueplay on its new portable speaker, meaning it will self-tune to the room, like Apple’s whatever-it’s-called speaker. Android users will no longer be left out. I’m guessing it will be coming to the One and Beam via a firmware update, but really don’t know.



https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/9/20799366/sonos-bluetooth-portable-speaker-model-s17
Would users be prepared to take their Android to a dealer and have its microphone calibrated? Would they pay a fee for this service?



I can't imagine this being cheaper than buying a compatible Apple device off the used market just for trueplay use.
You can be sure that Sonos would rather have Trueplay on Android than not as they will inevitably cheese off a lot of customers but it is extremely churlish to suggest this is for any other reason than the stated (by Sonos) variation in microphones leading to variable results. I'm quite sure they will have attempted to calibrate the devices on the fly but for all we know the microphones are so rubbish that not only do they vary tremendously by phone but also temporally during the tuning process.



Either way. It IS trivial to borrow a mates iOS device for 10 minutes and tune your speakers


You're saying the mics on the Sonos One aren't as good as the single mic on an iphone? I'm not really seeing that. I am speculating, but I think the function of recognizing a work word is partially due to the software that's doing the listening as it is to the ability of the mics. And tuning doesn't require voice recognition at all, just recognition of tones when you've told the device to listen for tones, as I understand it.




I agree with you that tuning doesn't require voice recognition, nor do I think that the mics on the Sonos one are worse than an iPhones, but the Sonos one compared to my Google home or my parents echo Dot, they are leagues behind. (you can hear the audio recordings in the Alexa app, and they're really poor quality).



I just don't think the mics in the Sonos are built for tuning like the Homepod/Google Home Max are. You would think that if they were, they would have introduced this feature already?



or maybe they're just really slow at software, I'm still waiting for Google Assistant support.
As chicks alluded to, I think the ultimate solution will eventually be removing your phone from the equation entirely, and using microphones on the speakers. I've heard hints this method will allow for continues tuning, so tuning will update as you move the speaker around, or move furniture in the room around, without you having to specifically execute a tuning command.



The mics on the Sonos one's I have are terrible at picking up my voice especially when they're playing music. I doubt that they're good enough for tuning.
Ah, I see your point. I clicked on the "Learn more about TruePlay" link, and found the iOS quote. You'd prefer to have it at the top level. Got it.
We just purchased a playbar, sub, and 2 ones. They are either to loud or quite. Cant even tell one ons are on or they are blasting us out. Unfortunately we are android lovers and do not own apple products. Guess were going to either take the system back or buy a $100 product so wr can set them up. Kind of gives Sonos a black eye in my mind.
You could just borrow the iPhone to run Trueplay. Then you could toggle it at will using the Android device, I believe. You just can’t run the TruePlay process, but you can toggle it off and on.

Just ask any Android app developer/programmer. It is a nightmare making apps for Android. Compatibility issue is a nightmare. You can never make an app compatible with every Android versions floating out there. And you cannot just make an app for latest Android version either. So, stop whining. Get an iPad or borrow an iPad. Simple. Stop bitching about Android.

Only Apple has few devices. In general it’s a standard that OS can work on many absolutely different devices. So stop whining :)


Is Trueplay is gimmick or real thing?


I’m one of those “sheep” as you call me, yet there are some rooms that I’ve TruePlayed, and heard absolutely no difference, and some that I’ve heard a positive change. Frankly, right now, there’s 3 rooms in my controller that haven’t been “TruePlayed”, because I don’t feel the need.

As you say, it’s not an absolute necessity. It’s just an extra that Sonos provides, but even without it, Sonos puts out absolutely outstanding product.


Honestly, it's not a required step to set up speakers. If you set them up in a normal fashion, they'll be just fine. When I ran TruePlay on my various 6 rooms, only in 1 case could I hear a difference. However, if you choose to stick your speakers underneath a table, or behind a cabinet, then TruePlay will make a difference that is impressive :)



Remember, there are quite a few users like you who only have Android devices, and somehow they muddle along without TruePlay use quite well.
I'd be happy to. I'll offer $5. Each, even.



You seriously think that you're missing out on that much, and don't have a friend who has an iOS device you could borrow for an hour?
Homepod :)



Which only recently, I think, got the ability to be a stereo speaker, and still has no option to be part of a Home Theater speaker.
Oh, no argument from me on that. But I wouldn't use it as a reason for not purchasing the speakers.



I'd be quite happy with some sort of solution for you silly Android users 🙂 Seriously, I do kind of like the concept of a microphone of known quality that could be connected to the Android. But then I'm not sure how you could make sure that the system recognized that it was the appropriate microphone, and people would end up using anything they have lying around, and then complain to Sonos about it not working.



I just may not have enough brain power (obviously, just read my posts!) to solve this problem easily. Glad it's not in my hands.
I think you've made your point, insertusernamehere. No need to do a "+1" on every single thread that mentions this. Please.
Certainly the cost of a beer to have a friend come over, and borrow their iOS device for 10 minutes is less?
Yes, it is so, for sure. You can toggle Trueplay off via Android if you prefer the sound that way. Or, if you shift the speakers to another location, till you get a chance to retune via a borrowed iPhone.

Oh great! Thx
Yes, it is so, for sure. You can toggle Trueplay off via Android if you prefer the sound that way. Or, if you shift the speakers to another location, till you get a chance to retune via a borrowed iPhone.
You could just borrow the iPhone to run Trueplay. Then you could toggle it at will using the Android device, I believe. You just can’t run the TruePlay process, but you can toggle it off and on.



Oh! Thx is tht so?! Then its not so much a disappointmt..:)



But because u r nt so sure when u said "I believe.." haha. Can anyone else verify tht this is so? Thx
I think everyone who defends Sonos, makes it too easy for them. How hard can it be to bring a microphone to the market, which android users can plug into their phone, which has a similar quality level as an iPhone mic (which can't be more expensive than 5$)? i totally understand, that it is hard to make an app, which gives good truetone quality for all the android devices out there, but why not sell an externel mic?



Why would any sensible person want to spend their good money on a device that is used once and then filed away for years? It's a 5 minute job to borrow an iPhone or iPad.



Besides, as custodians of the only planet we have it beholds us all to push back on our disgustingly consumerist society.
Would users be prepared to take their Android to a dealer and have its microphone calibrated? Would they pay a fee for this service?
Is it possible for a simple software solution whereby android users can borrow an iphone to tune, export a calibration file, and then simply download it into android?