Party Mode is a problem. We need ability to create multiple groups of rooms!



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Well that's easy - either just play on the speaker the most recent group selected, or throw an error when you try to play a group when that speaker is already in a different group that is playing. It doesn't really matter - it's not a situation that most people would configure, and so long as whatever method is consistent, who cares?
Once again, it is logically impossible to have the same speakers in multiple groups. It's easy to demonstrate:

Given speakers 1 2 3
Group A contains speakers 1 & 2
Group B contains speakers 2 & 3

If I play Led Zeppelin in Group A and Chopin in Group B, what is playing on speaker 2?
I've been waiting 8 years for this function so don't hold your breath people.
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+1, I fully expected to be able to create multiple groups which could optionally contain the same speakers as other groups, so I can easily select the set of speakers I want to use without the faff if grouping/ungrouping all the time. Why is this not available?!
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+1 would save a lot of frustration.
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I'm not sure they see this feature as a necessity for some reason. I have 4 speakers in 4 different rooms and I don't want to constantly group and ungroup them depending on what's going on.
I think that the USD 35 a pop Chromecast solution has now solved this problem, one aspect of the user interface where it isn't inferior to Sonos. Group creation is a one time action which survives a power off/reboot as well, and created groups show up in the choices for selecting where the music is to be casted to.

Given this, one would expect to see Sonos address this requirement with some urgency.
I just bought 2 Speakers. I have one in my bedroom and one in the living room. I want both speakers to start in the morning when my alarm goes off. I was so convinced that this was possible that I spent 20 minutes trying to find out how to do it. I think it'd be great if you could save groupings and use a group when you set an alarm.
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Bump, this is needed.
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I need this added as well. Seems like a no-brainer now that I have more than one speaker. I don't want to have to constantly ungroup and regroup speakers.
it is an obvious feature. just do it, where is the problem?
That's a simple question of software design. Frankly I don't care if they do something silly like having the first alphanumeric by group//zone name take precedent,or simply pop an error (trapped of course) if you try and play a zone where a device is active (at which point you'd probably exclude it). But I'm not sure it's a practical use case unless you had an unholy complex layout, and users who stomped on one another's usage. Most use cases I've seen on the forums aren't overlapping zones but the basic need to group N number of devices into a permanent zone with a custom name and be able too treat them as a single output. Synchronizing them across devices is just a method to ensure devices aren't double-assigned. It's a basic feature that I verified, through Crutchfield, exists in most systems. I'm demo'ing a legrand system this evening and they do this, as well as managing (including ripping!) your music very well.

That all said, perhaps they could follow Apple and simply look at what competitors do in that situation and copy what works.

I wish Sonos would be clear that a zone is simply a device unless you permanently pair things like a surround sound system. Their approach is basic, and I suppose not terrible. But it seems to me it's a tad misleading. Again, it would be great if a sonos employee would take the time to address this question in detail. After all, maybe I'm just plain wrong.
Every time this question comes up I ask this obvious question that nobody wants to address: If a speaker is in more than one group and both groups are in use playing something different from each other which program are you expecting to hear from that shared speaker?
Wow. I'm in the process of installing a whole house audio system and had decided on Sonos because I was told (by sonos) this feature exists. I'm shocked it doesn't, since every competitor has it. Can someone confirm it's been delivered and works? If not, I'll not purchase the dozen Sonos units i need (and was purchasing this week). Specifically...
1. You can pre-create custom named zones/groups of devices
2. A device can exist in multiple groups/zones
3. Custom groups/zones are shared across my devices (logged into my sonos account)

If Sonos isn't providing the above, they are no longer a serious competitor in this market.

Looking forward to the answer, and being pleasantly surprised that I simply stumbled across a page with outdated info and I can proceed with my purchase and not start shopping all over again.

Regards...
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I have to think this is the most requested feature and quite surprising that Sonos did not have it from the beginning. It is such a no brainer that I have to believe there is some technical reason Sonos hasn't added it.
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I've been adding to my Sonos collection and I assumed I'd be able to add speakers to multiple groups - "Ground Floor", "First Floor", etc. - when I couldn't figure it out I asked Google and this thread was the first result. It seems strange to me that this feature doesn't exist already.
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This is a definite necessity!

I fully concur. This is a feature that has been requested repeatedly over many months, and it just doesn't seem to me like something that would be difficult to build.

Would be great to be able to switch from ios8 widgets in the notification centre too.

Come on SONOS, all it takes is to tell us you are working on it.
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This is a definite necessity!

Shouldn't be a basic feature? Sonos is supposed to be a multi-room system, and the one thing it can't do is decent grouping in multiple rooms. I'd say it should be the very foundation...
This is a definite necessity!

Creating multiple groups was the first thing i wanted to do, and i only have 3 speakers. But i don't want to permanently regroup my speakers. 
I still don't understand why there is no focus on such a feature. And taking a look at the features of 5.4 is only more confusing. 
It needs to be classified in such a manner that it gets DONE Chris.   Do you know that classification?  It's a desired/needed feature and has been for years.  That's the point Charles is making.  And yet no movement on it that I see.  Pathetic.
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If you have iOS, check out sonosequencr on the App Store - you can create custom macros to create groups / ungroup along with many other functions
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This is the place for communication.  I see it as a nice feature but I don't see it as a basic feature.
This is a definite necessity!
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What happened to Sonos?   This feature hasn't been added and I'm having same problem.   Did their engineers go to sleep?  Get it ADDED NOW!