Trueplay is now available for the world to try and we’d love to hear what you think about the tuning. Have you noticed a change in your home? What are your impressions?
Personally, I first set up Trueplay in the worst possible situation I had at home, an original PLAY:5 sitting half behind a hollowed out speaker tower speaker which was used as a table for a record player (it’s a long story). The room has stone floors, high ceilings, and a few couches. The difference was immense.
After my dance around the room the PLAY:5 sounded like a completely different speaker. The highs were much clearer, and the lows resonated better throughout the room. Friends in the house couldn’t believe the difference either.
The next room I tested was much better off. The PLAY:3 in there was in a better place already, sitting toward the corner of the room, on top of a table. Wood floors, much smaller room, lower ceilings. There was still a noticeable change, as Trueplay really does help out the PLAY:3, but it wasn’t as big as with that first room.
Let us know how it goes! We recommend testing out 5 tracks that you know very well and seeing the difference. What rooms did you try it out in? What did you notice? What are your experiences? Share your stories here.
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It’s been a year since I ran trueplay on my speakers. As there have been several software updates in that time, is there a benefit to retuning? This assumes trueplay has been improved by the software updates.
Also, should loudness be on or off during tuning?
Also, should loudness be on or off during tuning?
I don’t like trueplay very much. At first I thought I did, but tried it on and off many times and now I always seem to prefer the sound with it off and eq adjusted manually. I have a Gen 1 Play 5 stereo pair with a Sub in the living room, stereo pair of Play 1’s in the master bedroom and a Play 3 in the kitchen (living room and kitchen are open concept so when listening to music I usually group the kitchen and living room). With the Play 5 and Sub combo trueplay basically makes the trebles too bright (even introduces some sibilance with certain types of music) while the bass is toned down too much for my liking (no kick). So I just leave it off and turn bass down -1 or so in room settings and sub down -3 or so from default as the default settings are quite boomy with loudness on.
In the bedroom the Play 1’s sound ok with trueplay (bass actually has more kick with it on) but it seems to make the bass sound a little distorted so again I turn it off. Overall I find trueplay a little gimmicky. Not sure how a cheap iPhone microphone can be used to accurately measure and improve quality speakers unless the speakers are hiding behind a cupboard or something.
Wish Sonos would just give us the option to use a proper eq with frequency ranges, but doubt that will happen.
In the bedroom the Play 1’s sound ok with trueplay (bass actually has more kick with it on) but it seems to make the bass sound a little distorted so again I turn it off. Overall I find trueplay a little gimmicky. Not sure how a cheap iPhone microphone can be used to accurately measure and improve quality speakers unless the speakers are hiding behind a cupboard or something.
Wish Sonos would just give us the option to use a proper eq with frequency ranges, but doubt that will happen.
I think that the official reason for this was that the microphones on Android devices don't behave consistently enough (talking about variance for the same models, not inter-model).
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Very happy with Trueplay. Nice that the app sorts the speakers best setting for me. I’m a bit ocd so trying to do it myself can be a long and painful process.
Any truplay hope on the horizon for those of us who don't drink the apple juice?
True play is awesome, I have two play 5's paired as a stereo setup; downside is the app still doesn't support for the iphone 8 😕 have to borrow my friends iphone 7
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Can you elaborate?
Improved my music but killed my 5.1 setup. 😞
They absolutely do (well, to some, not to all). Alpha and beta versions of pre-release hardware and software are made available to developers. You might have to meet certain conditions as a software company, you might have to pay for the h/w if you are a smaller and lesser known company, and you certainly have to sign an NDA, but they do make h/w and s/w available early to developers. Ever wonder how new apps that take advantage of new features are already in the store on the day new hardware is launched? That's how.
I like what Trueplay does. It's a great enhancement to Sonos. On the UX side, I would prefer if it wouldn't guide me so deep into the Trueplay menus (say, when moving my SUB) before I get a chance to cancel out. Much of the time, it's not convenient for me to run it. This isn't a fault of Trueplay, but speaks to a huge opportunity for Sonos to clean up and streamline the setup/settings portion of the UX.
But I think they’re are kind of “apple” we within speakers world, defo price tag and quality
How are they supposed to configure for hardware that is not released to anyone, anywhere, until release day? It's not like Apple hands out iPhone 8 betas to all their app developers.
Maybe but I just got sub and updated iPhone day before and it is disappointing that company like Sonos and price tag doesn’t reackt faster.... they should in my opinion... as well as they could add HomeKit compatibility
Sonos has stated that iOS 11 support is coming soon, they need to calibrate for new hardware.
Personally, I first set up Trueplay in the worst possible situation I had at home, an original PLAY:5 sitting half behind a hollowed out speaker tower speaker which was used as a table for a record player (it’s a long story). The room has stone floors, high ceilings, and a few couches. The difference was immense.
After my dance around the room the PLAY:5 sounded like a completely different speaker. The highs were much clearer, and the lows resonated better throughout the room. Friends in the house couldn’t believe the difference either.
The next room I tested was much better off. The PLAY:3 in there was in a better place already, sitting toward the corner of the room, on top of a table. Wood floors, much smaller room, lower ceilings. There was still a noticeable change, as Trueplay really does help out the PLAY:3, but it wasn’t as big as with that first room.
Let us know how it goes! We recommend testing out 5 tracks that you know very well and seeing the difference. What rooms did you try it out in? What did you notice? What are your experiences? Share your stories here.
My story is that after update to iOS11 sonos True play doesn’t work, instead there is a message that “this iPhone is not supported”
Anyone got the same problem after update to iOS11
Do you have a friend who has an iDevice? Usually the promise of a beer or even dinner would get you the 10 minutes of borrowing necessary to run the TruePlay process.
I can't try beacuse for andorid isn't present 😞
1 x Play 1, 1 x Play 3, 1 x Play 5 trueplay definitely improved sound on all three each in their own room's. Most improvement is with Play 1 in the bathroom (safely wired and located away from moisture); a big sound in this bright, hard walled room.
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Ryan, I've got a lock on your signal!
Thanks for your answers on both. I appreciate the distinction on complexity for the Home Theater TruePlay, although it would be a great thing indeed.
And I guess I'll anxiously wait for my next Sonos setup for an audio only purpose. We use our Playbar set up too frequently this summer to remove speakers and so on. Thanks again,
T21
Thanks for your answers on both. I appreciate the distinction on complexity for the Home Theater TruePlay, although it would be a great thing indeed.
And I guess I'll anxiously wait for my next Sonos setup for an audio only purpose. We use our Playbar set up too frequently this summer to remove speakers and so on. Thanks again,
T21
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Ryan S. of Planet Sonos, if you are out there, any word on TruePlay for Playbar and Home Theater users? Before TruePlay was announced, I was looking for an iOS App based speaker/placement tuner for home theater, and then got terribly excited when TruePlay was announced. Then it was Sad Trombone time when I saw that it didn't apply to the Playbar and Home Theater setup. From all the favorable reports on TruePlay success for speaker tuning, I hope Sonos is working on it.
(Dumb) Question: I have my viewing room set up with Playbar, Sub and 2 Play 1s. Can I create a separate room setting for the same 2 Play 1s and Sub so I can try out TruePlay for music only, and still keep my home theater set up for movies?
Toltec21! This is Ryan S. from Planet Sonos. Do you read me Toltec21! :)
We don't give out spoilers on the roadmap or share a timeline on these things. I posted this a little while back, and it's just as true today:
As to your second question, you can remove the surround pairing on the PLAY:1s and group them together as a different room then do Trueplay. However, they won't be paired with the PLAYBAR anymore, so if you want to group them with that unit, they won't be treated as surround speakers. Also, they'll be connecting with the 2.4GHz network and not the 5GHz surrounds usually use. This means they'll also be a little out of sync. Generally, I wouldn't recommend it.
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Ryan S. of Planet Sonos, if you are out there, any word on TruePlay for Playbar and Home Theater users? Before TruePlay was announced, I was looking for an iOS App based speaker/placement tuner for home theater, and then got terribly excited when TruePlay was announced. Then it was Sad Trombone time when I saw that it didn't apply to the Playbar and Home Theater setup. From all the favorable reports on TruePlay success for speaker tuning, I hope Sonos is working on it.
(Dumb) Question: I have my viewing room set up with Playbar, Sub and 2 Play 1s. Can I create a separate room setting for the same 2 Play 1s and Sub so I can try out TruePlay for music only, and still keep my home theater set up for movies?
we really need true play for player home theatre set up that would be epic
My Play:1's and Play:3's really gained a lot from trueplay. But my two new Play:5's with Sub, lost its warm sound and kicking bass . . . so it that case trueplay is unchecked.
I have mixed experiences with Trueplay. I bought a new Play 5, 2nd gen some weaks ago. There was something wrong with the bass elements so I got a new one. This is working fine. I have it in my living room, which is quite minimalistic, meaning it's a bright room with some echo. Trueplay does a great job when it comes to making the sound tighter (less hall/cathedral sound). But what I don't like at all is that the Trueplay brings sibilance to the trebles. At first I thought it was the Loudness setting that was the problem, but after further testing with turning Trueplay on and off, it's clear that this setting makes a big difference when it comes to trebles. As mentioned I have a bright room and I really don't get why Trueplay is making the trebles sharper. If I had lots of carpets, furniture and curtains I would understand why the trebles were increased. But in my kind of environment, this increasement is making the trebles sharp and unpleasant to listen to. It's to much to easily adjust with the treble settings. My only option to make the trebles sound ok, is to switch off the Trueplay setting. But this makes the whole sound much less tight. So my conclusion is that in my living room Trueplay brings clear improvements to the the sound, except for the increasment of the trebles that gets much to sharp (sibilance). If someone can help me with this I would really appreciate it.
I have mixed experiences with Trueplay. I bought a new Play 5, 2nd gen some weaks ago. There was something wrong with the bass elements so I got a new one. This is working fine. I have it in my living room, which is quite minimalistic, meaning it's a bright room with some echo. Trueplay does a great job when it comes to making the sound tighter (less hall/cathedral sound). But what I don't like at all is that the Trueplay brings sibilance to the trebles. At first I thought it was the Loudness setting that was the problem, but after further testing with turning Trueplay on and off, it's clear that this setting makes a big difference when it comes to trebles. As mentioned I have a bright room and I really don't get why Trueplay is making the trebles sharper. If I had lots of carpets, furniture and curtains I would understand why the trebles were increased. But in my kind of environment, this is making the trebles sharp and unpleasant to listen to. It's to much to easily adjust with the treble settings. My only option to make the trebles sound ok, is to switch off the Trueplay setting. But this makes the whole sound much less tight. So my conclusion is that in my living room Trueplay brings clear improvements to the the sound, except for the increasment of the trebles that gets much to sharp (sibilance). If someone can help me with this I would really appreciate it.
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