BBC radio on TuneIn going away March 22nd 2021

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R
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@John B are you saying that if I select Tunein as my source for BBC stations that in actual fact Sonos just gets the URL and uses that direct?

I have done some BBC listening using Radioplayer this afternoon and do not recall getting the announcement.

Airgetlam

The only reason that Sonos might be aware of this before the rest of us is if there was a BBC plugin for Sonos. There isn’t, all access for BBC content is through other providers, i.e. TuneIn or MyRadio.com, or direct links to web streams. Those companies might have been aware of the issue, we don’t know, but there would be no reason for the BBC to inform Sonos.

Bruce
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Hi everyone,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We’re aware of the BBC’s messaging and are investigating how this will affect BBC streams on Sonos going forward. We don’t have anything else to share at this time, but we’ll update this thread with any further information going forward.

 

Surprised and disappointed that Sonos were unaware of this

Unaware of what? We don't know what the implications for Sonos are yet (if any). The entire Internet seemed to be unaware of it a couple of hours ago when I looked.

Please folks wait for clarification.  Tbe BBC withdrew its Internet radio streams from tbe TuneIn service 18 months ago. BBC Sounds has never been integrated into the Sonos system. Let's just see what is actually going to happen on 22 March and then panic if need be.

Unaware of this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/help/questions/supported-devices/internet-radio-closure

I’d expect Sonos & the BBC to have better communication.  People are getting the audio message notification.  However, I haven’t heard it and have listened to Radio 6 Music through TuneIn this afternoon.

J

There is this article on the BBC website, but it's not giving us good news.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/entries/45fa0731-189c-43eb-8e4f-3071b8384895

I think this is the issue I was thinking about. I am not a direct tunein user but have a feeling that BBC is not available as a live stream in the UK but it is still available via Sonos. However the new announcement may require Tunein to make changes if the stream is to continue

 

@Ralpfocus   I think you correctly identified the relevant issue when you provided this link:

The BBC technology blog signposted this back in December BBC Blogs - Technology & Creativity Blog - Update on ICY streams for manufacturers

But the BBC stations have not been on TuneIn for 18 months.  Sonos doesn’t access URLs through TuneIn.  TuneIn just acts as a URL lookup service.  Sonos itself gets the streams direct.  The question at hand is how this arrangement will be affected.

R
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There is this article on the BBC website, but it's not giving us good news.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/entries/45fa0731-189c-43eb-8e4f-3071b8384895

I think this is the issue I was thinking about. I am not a direct tunein user but have a feeling that BBC is not available as a live stream in the UK but it is still available via Sonos. However the new announcement may require Tunein to make changes if the stream is to continue

 

J

Hi everyone,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We’re aware of the BBC’s messaging and are investigating how this will affect BBC streams on Sonos going forward. We don’t have anything else to share at this time, but we’ll update this thread with any further information going forward.

 

Surprised and disappointed that Sonos were unaware of this

Unaware of what? We don't know what the implications for Sonos are yet (if any). The entire Internet seemed to be unaware of it a couple of hours ago when I looked.

Please folks wait for clarification.  Tbe BBC withdrew its Internet radio streams from tbe TuneIn service 18 months ago. BBC Sounds has never been integrated into the Sonos system. Let's just see what is actually going to happen on 22 March and then panic if need be.

D
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It does like from the blog post, that it might be down to TuneIn to resoive, since they are the ultimate provider, unless we can get the new direct URL

F

There is this article on the BBC website, but it's not giving us good news.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/entries/45fa0731-189c-43eb-8e4f-3071b8384895

R
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Re-reading the blog it looks like they are only making changes including the URLs, not withdrawing the service. However this will mean that provider of the stream needs to make changes

The BBC also have a long running issue with wanting, as a public service provider, to understand who is listening to their service and does a particular service provide ‘value for money’. There was an issue a year or so back where they talked about pulling services to certain integrators unless the integrator could provide the BBC with usage information - not sure what has happened to that issue but I do recall some discussion that Sonos would not have access withdrawn.

D
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Just to confirm, I got the same message using the direct URL

To quote from 

The BBC technology blog signposted this back in December BBC Blogs - Technology & Creativity Blog - Update on ICY streams for manufacturers

 

“There is no action for listeners to take at this time and we do not anticipate any impact to your service.”

hmmm - it will stop working - that is quite an impact!!!

R
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The BBC technology blog signposted this back in December BBC Blogs - Technology & Creativity Blog - Update on ICY streams for manufacturers

 

C

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/help/questions/supported-devices/sonos-airplay says the BBC are “looking into ways of making it possible to use the BBC Sounds app through Sonos from Android devices. “

Hello I am new to the forum but, been a Sonos user for 12 years, the above message has been on the BBC support page for well over a year and nothing has changed for Android users.

D
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Assuming that BBC internet radio stations will still be available, 

Fingers crossed (I’ll test it now - I’ve added the relevant station and am listening to it now. Let’s see in 15 mins), but it does look like the BBC are forcing you go through the BBC Sounds app

L

I updated my Sonos system last autumn specifically to carry on listening to BBC Radio here in Switzerland. Sonos Port and Sonos One SL (the new model) - two of them.

What can be done?

I’ve written two messages on the BBC website today, but someone needs to go to the top. Please?

controlav
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I can’t believe Sonos was unaware of this issue before being informed by Sonos users.


Why not? Every prior change the BBC has made to their streaming support has been a surprise to everyone outside the BBC.

Author of the leading independent Sonos app for Windows, the only Sonos app for Xbox, and a Sonos app for iOS
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I can’t believe Sonos was unaware of this issue before being informed by Sonos users.

UKMedia
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Whist I agree with @John B about waiting for confirmation of the scope of the change, here is a possible solution! 🤣🤣🤣

I haven't tested this yet as I have a broadband outage at present. 🤬🤬🤬

Assuming that BBC internet radio stations will still be available,  then you can manually add the station to Sonos via this article: https://support.sonos.com/s/article/260?language=en_US

I've also found this useful list of BBC radio station URL's

http://www.suppertime.co.uk/blogmywiki/2015/04/updated-list-of-bbc-network-radio-urls/

 

 

Remember: Sometimes Red Wine helps :)
D
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Note that since this appears to be occurring across multiple sources, the control is in the BBC’s hands. Sonos only uses TuneIn’s or MyTunerRadio’s services, they have no control themselves. You may be best served by registering your concerns directly with the BBC. 

I’ve logged it, but currently just getting the “your feedback is important to us” reply.

 

A
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Hi everyone,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We’re aware of the BBC’s messaging and are investigating how this will affect BBC streams on Sonos going forward. We don’t have anything else to share at this time, but we’ll update this thread with any further information going forward.

 

Surprised and disappointed that Sonos were unaware of this

Airgetlam

Note that since this appears to be occurring across multiple sources, the control is in the BBC’s hands. Sonos only uses TuneIn’s or MyTunerRadio’s services, they have no control themselves. You may be best served by registering your concerns directly with the BBC. 

Bruce
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Just to clarify I got this message whilst using Sonos Radio AND MyTunerRadio on the S2 system.

From my understanding one workaround is to play a live stream through the BBC Sounds app and airplay to a compatible device, if you have one - unfortunately I don't have any.

Another is to use voice control, but again, no good if you don’t have compatible products

Sorry,  but how can anyone propose a workaround when we haven't got much idea what, if anything, needs to be worked around?

U

Really keen to see a resolution to this.  I don't physically have another way of listening other than through Sonos.

D
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Just to clarify I got this message whilst using Sonos Radio AND MyTunerRadio on the S2 system.

From my understanding one workaround is to play a live stream through the BBC Sounds app and airplay to a compatible device, if you have one - unfortunately I don't have any.

Another is to use voice control, but again, no good if you don’t have compatible products

James L.
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Hi everyone,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We’re aware of the BBC’s messaging and are investigating how this will affect BBC streams on Sonos going forward. We don’t have anything else to share at this time, but we’ll update this thread with any further information going forward.

 

I’ve also merged a few similar topics into this one to make things a bit easier to follow.

 
 
 
 
 
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/help/questions/supported-devices/sonos-airplay says the BBC are “looking into ways of making it possible to use the BBC Sounds app through Sonos from Android devices. “

Will the desktop controller still work? Since my CR100’s became defunct and my iPad is no longer capable of updating I only have my desktop to be able to control my system. I tried a Sonos One for a week but returned it as it has very limited functionality for the rest of the system. 

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