Alarms "hidden" in System Settings with 10.4

So... WHERE can i find my existing alarms? Settings/System/Alarms takes to me "AddAlarm". I Still have alarms that are going off this morning. As DB88 said, it won't let you re-create the same alarm because it "already exists".

Could someone please answer this question?

I see my existing alarm under Settings/System/Alarms. So either you've setup an alarm with some other smart control tool or there's a bug that isn't effecting all users.

So... WHERE can i find my existing alarms? Settings/System/Alarms takes to me "AddAlarm". I Still have alarms that are going off this morning. As DB88 said, it won't let you re-create the same alarm because it "already exists".

Could someone please answer this question?

I find it bizarre that the #1 item on the new Settings item (on iOS) is "Account", and yet Alarms are buried under "System" (and the more players you have, the more painful it is to get to Alarms). How many times do people use Account vs Alarms? I'm hoping app telemetry shows this priority is backwards and will be corrected in 10.5.

Use the Desktop controller (for PC or Mac). One of the advantages to being a near-frozen version of the codebase is that UI changes like this will never happen.There isn't even a 10.4 for PC (and Mac I assume).Wish you were right ControlAV. Sadly you aren't. There's a nice 10.4 software update ready for my system right now.

Ah, i see the 10.4 update for PC this morning. Fortunately no UX changes like messing with Alarms though.

Alarms are a system setting which are usually set and then not changed frequently,

I've always (had Sonos for well over a decade) seen Alarms as a function of the system, "wake up to your favourite music/radio" and one of its original selling points.

In terms of frequency of changing alarm setting, I probably change them between 2 and 3 times per week to suit my work pattern, either to adjust the time or to enable/disable.

Straight after 10.4 update, I went to enable my wake up alarm for the next day to find its now further down a sub menu and page.

Completely agree with the OP that moving the Alarm option is not a good thing.

Hi mikeap, Alarms are a system setting which are usually set and then not changed frequently, and in many cases, not used at all. I can't say if that's the specific logic used here, but it's certainly one of the factors, and something that makes sense. There are always some settings people want higher up than others, equalization, easier access to remove and re-add surrounds or Subs, surround volume controls, and more that I can't think of right now. Ultimately, the team makes decisions based on data, requests, and what makes sense. But they also are happy to continue fine tuning things. So when there is something you miss, or want to see changed, feel free to speak up, constructively.

In the case of the Inbox, the way they constructed the menus it seemed to fit best where it wound up, as opposed to other fields. Regarding the so called "spam," you can turn off in app notifications on your system by going here and unchecking the field for notifications in the Sonos app.

Good lord, you were right, but dear god, I have to login to the Sonos Profile (the one I didn't want until Sonos started forcing people to create user accounts) to disable an alert on my App. Well I will hand it to you, less than .00001% of users will figure that out. I think you may be the first company in history where you have to login into your web-based profile to control an alert on an app. Gotta hand it to your team though, that makes Mark Zuckerberg look honest and straight forward. Do I get back the 20hours I wasted over the last 9 months looking everywhere on the app to control app settings. Silly me for even thinking you'd control app spam from the app. It's so devilish I semi admire it's underhandedness.

Hi mikeap, Alarms are a system setting which are usually set and then not changed frequently, and in many cases, not used at all. I can't say if that's the specific logic used here, but it's certainly one of the factors, and something that makes sense. There are always some settings people want higher up than others, equalization, easier access to remove and re-add surrounds or Subs, surround volume controls, and more that I can't think of right now. Ultimately, the team makes decisions based on data, requests, and what makes sense. But they also are happy to continue fine tuning things. So when there is something you miss, or want to see changed, feel free to speak up, constructively.

In the case of the Inbox, the way they constructed the menus it seemed to fit best where it wound up, as opposed to other fields. Regarding the so called "spam," you can turn off in app notifications on your system by going here and unchecking the field for notifications in the Sonos app.

Hi @brymills, I'll make sure to let the team know you were looking for it.
Ryan, Appreciate the non-specific non-solution answer. Perhaps I could rephrase the question as I bet there are other people who are going to be shocked by this unecessary burying of one of the few useful features Sonos has left. Explain why, from a UX/UI point of viewm putting something used often so many levels deep makes sense and conversely, why elevating the spam-box, excuse me, I mean inbox, to such a prominent position as My Sonos is something that will benefit the customer? Are you going to tell me/us that people were clamoring to have the Inbox more readily accessible. I mean the only reason I can think of wanting the Inbox to be elevated is for quicker deletion of the spam, I mean new products, you team annoys us with when we are trying to enjoy our music. So your feedback on those exact questions would be helpful. If you'd prefer to just add it to a list nobody will ever look at or take the quick route with a deletion of this post, that's fine too.

Hi @brymills, I'll make sure to let the team know you were looking for it.