Hi,
I am in the midst of building out a Home theatre setup and like many would like to reduce the number of wires in my living room. I currently have a PRIMARE SPA 22 A/V receiver (http://www.primare.net/assets/_managed/cms/files/SPA22usermanual.pdf) and also a pair of JM Lab Focal front speakers both of which produce exceptional sound. I would like to know whether it is possible to use my existing 2 channel setup with the PRIMARE SPA 22 A/V receiver but introduce a centre channel and 2 rear surround channels all connected to the A/V receiver so that I can have the A/V receiver pushing the sound from a BluRay movie/player to the the Sonos components and the 2 Focal speakers.
Thanks,
M
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@NewUser4251. For question 1, you are correct. the red/white RCA cables are what you will use. The audio out on the CONNECT will go to the audio in for one of the inputs on your receiver. You also can connect by coax or optical cables if your receiver can handle it. You'll have to consult the owner's manual of your receiver to answer that question. For question 2, yes, you will need to set your receiver to whatever input you connected the CONNECT to. Unless your receiver has some sort of audio sensing tech that automatically sense what inputs are receiving a signal.
So to sum it up, wants you have your sonos connected, if you want to play music from sonos in the room your receiver is in, you will need to use the sonos app to select music for the room, then turn your receiver input to whatever sonos CONNECT is connected to.
You could also have the sonos CONNECT be in between your tv and receiver, but this is unlikely to give you the best sound quality available since CONNECT can only input rca cables, limiting your entire system to RCA quality...if that makes sense. Your receiver, TV, and other devices can likely do HDMI, coax, or optical...better quality.
So to sum it up, wants you have your sonos connected, if you want to play music from sonos in the room your receiver is in, you will need to use the sonos app to select music for the room, then turn your receiver input to whatever sonos CONNECT is connected to.
You could also have the sonos CONNECT be in between your tv and receiver, but this is unlikely to give you the best sound quality available since CONNECT can only input rca cables, limiting your entire system to RCA quality...if that makes sense. Your receiver, TV, and other devices can likely do HDMI, coax, or optical...better quality.
Hi All - I have read through this thread and have found it useful; however, I am not sure I quite understand how this flows.
My previous set up was a TV + Denon Receiver and 5 speaker Surround Sound. I used the typical inputs into the receiver of cable box and DVD player and the single HDMI connect to the TV from the receiver. I just moved into a new place and have begun investing in Sonos around the house.
My new set up for the lounge is getting rid of the 5 wired speakers. I have installed two high end speakers in the ceiling and have my subwoofer that will go along with it. My goal here is to understand how installing a CONNECT will work with the new set up for speakers. These two speakers and the subwoofer will by my audio for all things in this room (Sonos Streaming and TV audio output).
I've failed to find examples of how users have installed the CONNECT to work with their legacy wired speaker system.
1. What cables connect the CONNECT to the Receiver - how does the CONNECT talk to the Receiver to input the Audio? Is it the RED/WHITE Audio IN?
2. Does the Receiver need to be on a particular input selection to play SONOS streaming instead of TV? Or is the output Audio automatic as long as the receiver is powered ON?
Thank you!
My previous set up was a TV + Denon Receiver and 5 speaker Surround Sound. I used the typical inputs into the receiver of cable box and DVD player and the single HDMI connect to the TV from the receiver. I just moved into a new place and have begun investing in Sonos around the house.
My new set up for the lounge is getting rid of the 5 wired speakers. I have installed two high end speakers in the ceiling and have my subwoofer that will go along with it. My goal here is to understand how installing a CONNECT will work with the new set up for speakers. These two speakers and the subwoofer will by my audio for all things in this room (Sonos Streaming and TV audio output).
I've failed to find examples of how users have installed the CONNECT to work with their legacy wired speaker system.
1. What cables connect the CONNECT to the Receiver - how does the CONNECT talk to the Receiver to input the Audio? Is it the RED/WHITE Audio IN?
2. Does the Receiver need to be on a particular input selection to play SONOS streaming instead of TV? Or is the output Audio automatic as long as the receiver is powered ON?
Thank you!
You don't need Sonos then, many av receivers have Bluetooth or DLNA these days.
Thanks everyone for your replies, given me a lot to think about.... All I am looking for is decent sound around my living room from my TV and Xbox One for movies and music and have the ability to play music from a tablet or mobile into that setup... I don't want to add anything that will just be a waste for sure, I get by right now with just a soundbar connected via HDMI and that connects to a wireless sub as they are the same make and paired, it works quite well and I can stream music to the soundbar and my TV which outputs to the soundbar and the sub and sounds pretty good, I would just like to extend the surround capabilities around my living room.
Well, I'm assuming that you like the Sonos concept, of multi-room, multi-source, multi-controller network audio. A CONNECT enables you to 'Sonos-ify' conventional equipment, providing digital (optical/coax) and analog outputs. http://www.sonos.com/shop/connect.html
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The connect will allow you to play Sonos music on the 5.1 receiver system and will allow TV sound from that system to be fed to other sonos units around your house.
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You have 2 options with the audio - As they are all Video inputs they will plug to the TV so many TVs will pass DD5.1 through the optical out and as long as you make sure the input is 5.1 you will be fine.
Me, I plug my PVR, sat box, Xbox One into an HDMI switch that splits the audio and video - My TV doesn't pass 5.1
That works well
Me, I plug my PVR, sat box, Xbox One into an HDMI switch that splits the audio and video - My TV doesn't pass 5.1
That works well
Ok, so if I am hearing you correct, conventional receiver with surround speakers positioned around the room to give me the spatial sound, then a sonos connect... what would or could I use the connect for?
IMO a receiver and PLAYBAR don't really make sensible bedfellows. You can't play through them both at the same time, for reasons already stated, and to front-end the PLAYBAR with an AVR and simply use it for source switching is rather a waste.
If you're looking for home theatre beyond the basic capabilities of the Sonos soundbar/sub/surrounds I'd suggest you look at a conventional AVR, supplemented with a CONNECT.
If you're looking for home theatre beyond the basic capabilities of the Sonos soundbar/sub/surrounds I'd suggest you look at a conventional AVR, supplemented with a CONNECT.
Understood, thanks Ratty.... so I think for my scenario then, I would be better off just getting a receiver and a decent set of surround speakers and lay some cables to the speakers around the room and not bother with the Sonos bundle? unless of course I could output the sound from TV and the Xbox one to the Sonos?
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No. You can't use a non-Sonos receiver in conjunction with a PLAYBAR like that. However you connected it, there'd be a time offset of some magnitude which would ruin the experience.
Hi Ratty, thanks for the reply, I have had similar experience with an Azatom soundbar and air speakers in multi-room, it would only play in airplay mode and when I added more speakers it started to get jitters, so if I just went with the playbar, sub and single pair of speakers, would I be able to add any surround speakers to a receiver to extend the surround capability?
Not possible. Only one pair of speakers (and a SUB) can be bonded with the PLAYBAR, as surrounds.
In theory you could set up an additional pair as a separate 'room' and group them with the PLAYBAR, but they wouldn't play in sync for TV sound.
Hi Community, interesting thread, I am however looking to embark on the Sonos journey and what I am looking at is similar to the OP. I have a Smart TV running all things Kodi, Spotify and live TV with PVR capabilities and an Xbox One console. What I am looking to do is introduce an AV receiver which will allow me to feed all the above into and then compliment them with a Sonos 5.1 Home Theatre bundle. I would like to position the playbar under my TV, then 2 Play 3 speakers around the room and if possible 2 smaller Play 1 speakers for additional surround sound. I have not decided on any specific brand receiver, but I need something that works well sound wise, is not too heavy on the wallet and allows for expansion, ideally it will have all the wireless connectivity such as DLNA, Bluetooth, airplay (a bonus)
Can someone advise if this is possible and any recommendations for the receiver and what I would need?
Thanks again
Mark
Can someone advise if this is possible and any recommendations for the receiver and what I would need?
Thanks again
Mark
Note: What you can't do is put some wireless Sonos speakers in place like rears and have them syncd up as surround speakers from your Denon. There is only 1 way to have home theater sound through the wireless speakers and that is the Playbar front (3s or 1s rears). Without this setup wireless speakers will just be stereo speakers outputting sound sent to them.
Audioengine are more of a complementary outfit. I was thinking of their W3 Wireless Audio Adapter, as a means to pipe lossless audio from AVR to CONNECT:AMP wirelessly, assuming you didn't want a CONNECT.
Can you run an RCA cable from your AVR to the CONNECT:AMP? It does have a Line-In.
AVR is in the living room while the connect amp is in the garage. Running a cable kind of defeats the point.
This exactly. Looking at audio engine, it seems to be a different Sonos like company. Am I missing something?
Can you run an RCA cable from your AVR to the CONNECT:AMP? It does have a Line-In.
Is there something I can hook my current AV receiver into that will stream that out put to my sonos devices? My assumption was that you would have a sonos device with an AV input that would then stream that input to the sonos network.
There's the CONNECT. As well as offering a Line-In it is of course a Sonos Player, so could stream content to your receiver as well.
If you simply need to get an audio feed wirelessly from the AVR to the CONNECT:AMP, check out Audioengine.
I believe this user is trying to do what I am trying as well.
I have a complete system and I want to be able to stream audio (music, cable tv, dvd, etc) from my current AV receiver to a sonos device (in my situation a connect amp).
Is there something I can hook my current AV receiver into that will stream that out put to my sonos devices? My assumption was that you would have a sonos device with an AV input that would then stream that input to the sonos network.
I have a complete system and I want to be able to stream audio (music, cable tv, dvd, etc) from my current AV receiver to a sonos device (in my situation a connect amp).
Is there something I can hook my current AV receiver into that will stream that out put to my sonos devices? My assumption was that you would have a sonos device with an AV input that would then stream that input to the sonos network.
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Just as a reminder. A connect hooked to your existing denon will allow it to play sonos music wirelessly from the Sonos app.
Ok mate I may look into it.....thank you for your help though I appreciate it
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I dont know of anything that would make your current receiver power wireless speakers in a 5.1 system (certainly not bose). . Only way would be if it's a new denon with heos built in to it and then there may be chance denon heos speakers would do what you want (but I don't think so)
Just wanted to go wireless really as it's less wires hanging around...I no Bose do a surround sound kit so that may be worth considering if it will work with my receiver
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Is there a reason you want to get rid of the wires your current setup has?
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if you want wireless surround it would be replacing your current system. That would mean taking the denon out of service and replacing with a playbar. The playbar does the surround decoding (but only Dolby digital so you need to look at your sources if that is going to work for you). A lot of considerations in replacing a current working 5.1 system. What is your TV. Does it pass did 5.1 though it's optical. What devices are currently Hooked to your denon receiver. A lot of things to look at.
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