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Plenty come on here and don’t read the thread. I have no idea of knowing if your one of them so I will continue to let people know.
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If anything your badgering me
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No one is ignoring you Chris.


Sure they are. In terms of forum speak, if someone mentions an issue, a solution, and other people repeat the issue without mentioning/recognizing that a solution was offered, I don't know how that could be interpreted as anything but ignoring.

Personally, I don't really get the desire to replace a play:1 with a sonos one. Yes, you get an all-in-one feel, but you are spending a lot more for that over just buying a dot. A dot that currently can do all that Sonos One can, in terms of voice control, plus additional features. You also get the benefit of segregated duties. In the near future when an improvement comes to voice control, you can just replace your relatively cheap dot instead of waiting for an upgraded Sonos One...or turning off the mic on the One with a new dot. Even you have a need to stereo pair an existing Play:1, they are currently $50 cheaper then the One, so you can get that and a dot for the same or lower price.

Saying this, I understand that those circumstances may change when Google comes on board, or whatever else happens in the quickly evolving market. But we don't know what that is, and you'll be able to buy a Sonos One or whatever new product Sonos comes out with then just as easily as you can now. Just seems like patience is the better route right now.
And people tend to ignore it still.

No one is ignoring you Chris. That is a 3rd party, workaround solution. Yes, it is a solution. There are people replying to this thread to add their voice to the request for support from SONOS directly. Unless you work for SONOS, and you are confirming 100% the answer is never, please just allow people to ask for what they want.

Like I said, thank you for providing this information, but you don't need to badger every person who isn't satisfied with it. You must be aware that 3rd party solutions are not the equivalent of native support, so please just allow people to want what they want.


I think it is pretty clear that Sonos is not going to give you the ability to pair unlike models, and Sonos has clearly stated that they are unlike models. So what exactly are you going to gain from having Sonos explicitly state what we already know is true?

Edit: And there you have it, an explicit statement of what we already knew was true.

Thanks Ryan.
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I'd say that's a pretty darn good reason. Not to a good idea to allow a feature you know you're going to break in the future.
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+1 for natively pairing the One with the Play:1. When I found out this was not natively supported, I canceled my order of the One.
Hi everyone, thanks for sharing your feedback and voice. The official answer on this topic is in the thread, but it's a bit buried at this point.

To be clear, the Sonos One can be used with all Sonos players. It can control what's playing on itself and other rooms with voice, where available. However, Sonos One will only pair with another Sonos One if you are looking to set it up as a stereo pair or as part of a surround setup, it can't bond with a Play:1.

While the Play:1 and Sonos One share a similar appearance and sound, the two are aesthetically and acoustically two different speakers. Stereo pairing the two is not possible through the Sonos app.

This comes down to the hardware in the players themselves. You're going to start seeing more differences between the Play:1 and the Sonos One when it comes to features in the future, as new things are added to the system that might not be compatible with older hardware. We strive to keep products working with core functionality for as long as possible. As we add new features, older products may have more limitations.

You might have heard recently that we're bringing Airplay 2 to Sonos on a selection of players. The Sonos One will be available as an Airplay 2 target, but the Play:1 will not be. The first Sonos players ever, the ZP100, is still out there rocking today, so don't worry about the life of your Play:1s. That one won't be an Airplay 2 target either, but you'd be able to group a Sonos One with a ZP100 and play Airplay 2 to both, just like with a Play:1. The group is different from stereo bonding.

There are some community suggestions for ways to bond a Play:1 with a Sonos One, mentioned in this thread, but they aren't officially recommended. They may work for what you're looking for, but the setup could potentially be unstable.

Thanks again everyone for sharing, and we'll make sure the team knows this is still something you'd like to see happen, but there aren't any plans to share on bonding a Play:1 and Sonos One as a pair.


This is preventing me from purchasing a Sonos One as its not compatible with my Play One for stereo pair.
This is preventing me from purchasing a Sonos One as its not compatible with my Play One for stereo pair.Just out of curiosity, what is stopping you from buying a Play:1 and an Echo Dot?
Nothing. I want a stereo pair. If I decide to move forward with the stereo pair am going to buy a less expensive on sale play 1 instead of the more expensive one that I believe Sonos would prefer I buy. All because I cannot pair my play 1 with a Sonos one.
Nothing. I want a stereo pair. If I decide to move forward with the stereo pair am going to buy a less expensive on sale play 1 instead of the more expensive one that I believe Sonos would prefer I buy. All because I cannot pair my play 1 with a Sonos one.
Personally, I would choose to buy the more expensive Sonos One and set it up as a separate Sonos room. Group it with the Play:1 Room .. it will sound just as good as a “grouped pair“ and then I would also have the benefit of voice Control via Alexa right now, or Google Home later down the line.

This sort of setup would also be able to take full advantage of AirPlay-2 coming to Sonos in the not too distant future... as talked about in these two official Sonos documents:

https://www.sonos.com/en-gb/airplay

https://blog.sonos.com/en-gb/airplay2-coming

I think the extra expenditure on a Sonos One is going to be worth it.
I'm adding nothing new to this thread but just agreeing with what everyone else is saying. I was keen to buy a second Play:1 to complete my sound system, but now that the Sonos One is out I feel that I am in limbo. I no longer want to buy a Play:1 knowing there is a better, voice-activated speaker available (and will be the focus of updates). But then I don't want to buy two voice-activated speakers for the same room, and then have a spare Play:1 left over (to put in a cupboard?!). If the Sonos One was able to pair with the Play:1, I would buy it today!
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Just a short post to confirm that Sonosequencr still works since the 9.0 AirPlay 2 update for stereo pairing a Play:1 and a One.

Worth £1.79 imho if Sonos won’t officially let us do it.
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I got tired of having to borrow an iPhone with Sonosequencr to pair my 1 and One, so I wrote a Python script that does the same thing. Works just fine. Thought I'd post it here if anyone needs it.

https://github.com/erikmansson/pair-sonos


Erik, you're a hero. Sonos keeps telling me it's technically impossible to pair the Sonos:1 and Sonos:one. You and Sonosequencr prove otherwise. Who are they kidding. Sonos makes great speakers but are deaf to customer wishes. Hope they improve.
I appreciate that pairing a Sonos One with a Play:1 is not supported by Sonos, but will doing that also void their warranty and is it possible that pairing two different speakers may actually cause some damage to either one?

I am told the hardware in the new Sonos One is completely different to the Play:1 and wondering if that may introduce a future issue with continual use of the two mismatched speakers being paired together?
I got tired of having to borrow an iPhone with Sonosequencr to pair my 1 and One, so I wrote a Python script that does the same thing. Works just fine. Thought I'd post it here if anyone needs it.

https://github.com/erikmansson/pair-sonos

I tried many times but it is always giving me a syntax error. I am doing it from the mobile app. Soco and request is installed. I don't know a thing about python. Just typing exactly as your link suggest. Please help
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I got tired of having to borrow an iPhone with Sonosequencr to pair my 1 and One, so I wrote a Python script that does the same thing. Works just fine. Thought I'd post it here if anyone needs it.

https://github.com/erikmansson/pair-sonos

I tried many times but it is always giving me a syntax error. I am doing it from the mobile app. Soco and request is installed. I don't know a thing about python. Just typing exactly as your link suggest. Please help


Hmm, what do you mean by that you are doing it from the mobile app? Sorry for my late reply btw.
Hi ErikMansson

Can you clarify how to use the python script
Were do you have to use it, in the mobile phone or run it on the sonos speaker

I have an android phone, so i a m looking for an alternative to sonosequencr to be able to use my SOnos Play 1 and Sonos one as a stereo pair.

I bought the Sonos play 1 ignoring this issue and now cannot return it or change it for a second one
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Hi ErikMansson

Can you clarify how to use the python script
Were do you have to use it, in the mobile phone or run it on the sonos speaker

I have an android phone, so i a m looking for an alternative to sonosequencr to be able to use my SOnos Play 1 and Sonos one as a stereo pair.

I bought the Sonos play 1 ignoring this issue and now cannot return it or change it for a second one


The scripts are meant to run on a regular computer (Windows/macOS/Linux should all work) on the same network as your Sonos system.
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The scripts are meant to run on a regular computer (Windows/macOS/Linux should all work) on the same network as your Sonos system.


Ok, i will try to see if i can make it work. And once apply, the stereo pairing setting will be permanent on both Speakers, or just for the music you would play form that computer?

Sorry about all these questions, but i don;t have much experience in Sonos systems or Phyton
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Ok, i will try to see if i can make it work. And once apply, the stereo pairing setting will be permanent on both Speakers, or just for the music you would play form that computer?

Sorry about all these questions, but i don;t have much experience in Sonos systems or Phyton


The pairing will persist until unpairing again, regardless of who's playing
Will it be possible to pair a ‘One’ with a Play:1 to create a stereo pair?

So, what I’m hearing is the common folk, who purchase the product, are the figurative “canary in the coal mines” to identify a very deliberate built-in software incompatibility.

Hard to imagine the superior Sonos One cannot adjust (albeit decreasing the overal sound quality - we understand the tech is not the same) to pair with a Play:1 in stereo.

Perhaps give the users what they want with a software patch update?
Its been a common request since Sonos released the One, there has been no indication that Sonos will consider it.
Well, I wish I had read this thread before, just received a one today, still in the box, I have no use for it if it can't be paired with a play one, I am returning it.
I got tired of having to borrow an iPhone with Sonosequencr to pair my 1 and One, so I wrote a Python script that does the same thing. Works just fine. Thought I'd post it here if anyone needs it.

https://github.com/erikmansson/pair-sonos


This works well for me, thanks! Now, waiting for Sonos to allow this from their App... obviously not "Technically Impossible"

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They can be grouped together, but not made a stereo pair. As before, the sound of each speaker is different enough that a stereo pair would not be effective.

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