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Wifi only config with Arc, Ones, and Sub Mini?

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I’m having trouble finding a clear answer on this. I have a Sonos Arc, two Ones, and a Sub Mini configured together in a HT setup. My goal is to not use SonosNet and to have each device on wifi.

To do this, I disconnected my Arc from being hardwired to ethernet. It is now on Wifi, on a 2.4GHz radio. The system seems to work fine, but oddly I dont see the Ones or the Sub Mini on my router’s client list.

I also tried to keep the Arc connected hardwired to ethernet and “disable wifi” but I believe that killed the grouping.

What’s the correct way to do this also the way to confirm it? Having the Arc stuck on 2.4ghz plus no other wifi clients makes me think its on SonosNet. I see the network type info is no longer in the app..

Thanks!

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furacaopr

Prodigy III

I see I can change the “SonosNet” channel in the app, can I change this channel? Does it even use a Wifi frequency?

No, you can't change the HT channel. To check which one is being used, go to <your Arc IP address>/support/review.

Then click on your Arc's room name and /proc/ath_rincon/status:

Operating on is you WiFi channel
Home channel is your SonosNet channel
HT channel is the Home Theater channel your Arc is using with the Ones e Sub.

You can't set the HT channel and it may change at any time

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Ian_S

Prodigy III

IMHO you’re stoking the fire regarding the OP’s query unnecessarily. The Sonos net IMO has always been a plus for Sonos users.

I was simply challenging John B’s assertion that Sonosnet was not WiFi, even though it can route IP traffic and uses the main 2.4GHz channels, 1,6 and 11. It was not stoking the fire.

AjTrek1

IMHO you’re stoking the fire regarding the OP’s query unnecessarily. The Sonos net IMO has always been a plus for Sonos users.

I was simply challenging John B’s assertion that Sonosnet was not WiFi, even though it can route IP traffic and uses the main 2.4GHz channels, 1,6 and 11. It was not stoking the fire.

My apologies. However I think your intent (challenge) would have been clearer if you had inserted @John B post in your response. 😊

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Ken_Griffiths

FWIW - This is just my own (personal) take on these things…

I like to distinguish between the different connections by referring to anything directly connected to the local (router) network as using "WiFi" …and whenever there’s an ad-hoc connection between player & surrounds etc. I refer to that as a “wireless” link. It’s just a minor play on words, but that’s how I choose to refer to these ‘different’ connections.

So for me, a Sonos HT has 2.4Ghz ‘WiFi’ link to the local network and a 5Ghz ‘wireless’ (ad-hoc) link to the bonded surrounds & sub (just as an example).

buzz

Grand Maestro

Although surrounds and SUB’s will receive an IP address from the router, in wireless mode all music traffic is sent directly to the surrounds and SUB’s using a private link. Some WiFi systems will drop reporting the existence of these units because there is no regular WiFi traffic.

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furacaopr

Prodigy III

No, you can't change the HT channel. To check which one is being used, go to <your Arc IP address>/support/review.

Then click on your Arc's room name and /proc/ath_rincon/status:

Operating on is you WiFi channel
Home channel is your SonosNet channel
HT channel is the Home Theater channel your Arc is using with the Ones e Sub.

You can't set the HT channel and it may change at any time

Sorry, go to:
<your Arc IP address>:1400/support/review

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John B

I’d challenge that on the Sonosnet front. I doubt Sonos are running proprietary protocols on radio frequencies reserved for WiFi use, and then writing complex conversion protocols to translate traffic between the outside world and Sonosnet.

What needs to be converted or translated? Data can pass between devices connected by WiFi and those connected by SonosNet. That is what the Ethernet connection is for. That is why SonosNet can only be used if there is a wired connection. But I feel you must be right that Sonos won’t have “reinvented the wheel” and so must be built on the same fundamental protocols.

Haven’t we also seen scenarios where WiFi traffic ends up being wrongly routed over Sonosnet thanks to STP issues? Implying that Sonosnet is more a hidden WiFi network IMO.

I believe that network storms have arisen from looping between wireless and wired connections, when STP is not being handled correctly by a router or switch etc

The 5GHz bonded network for surrounds/subs appears to behave differently, but is also less problematic.

It isn’t a network.

But we are so far off topic now. I would endorse comments made by (I think) @AjTrek1 , that as far as the OP is concerned, this is a total non-issue. He only has a HT setup that is not using SonosNet, and a Roam that can’t use it.

We should all get back to listening to our music.

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robenheimer

Lyricist III

you’re better off just building your own speakers for the price and not having to use their ****** app

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106rallye

@robenheimer It is very unfortunate that your system does not work like you want it to, but why do other users have to plough through nine reactions in the last hour adding nothing worthwhile to the community?

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