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I have older products (play 1 and 3) but cannot connect them to my new routers. I reset them , installed them again but the app S1 , throws them off.

what can i do?

Make sure you are using WPA2 and not WPA3 for your password if you want to connect your speakers wirelessly.

Look here for a list of products that support WPA3: 

https://support.sonos.com/en-gb/article/supported-wifi-modes-and-security-standards-for-sonos-products

Alternately you can simply connect a speaker to your router with an ethernet cable.