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Integrating Sonos and Apple HomePod-Minis

  • 11 November 2021
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Hi Guys.

 

Firstly, I tried to get this problem answered by Apple, but get nothing but the runaround from their support. While this appears to be a Home App issue, maybe one of the more technical people can help as it is also Sonos-related.

 

I have a mix of HomePod Minis and Sonos Airplay-2 speakers scattered throughout the house. Some rooms only have HomePods, some rooms have only Sonos and some contain both. I want the ability to create a group that I can reference as a single entity and contains only the devices I select - for example, when I play music in a room that contains both Sonos and HomePod Mini, I only want the Sonos to play. Hence the need to be able to chose and pick which speakers are in the 'group'. (The HomePod’s are primarily deployed to provide intercom functionality, speakers in places where a Sonos speaker would be overkill, such as the two garages, and provide voice commands for other Homekit accessories.)

 

I believe the Home app used to have the ability to create groups, but that seems to have gone away in a recent build - now the options seems to be zones, which does not address this scenario.

 

Has anyone addressed this problem in the past?

 

Thanks, Darrell

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Best answer by DAE 11 November 2021, 02:39

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Hi Guys.

 

Firstly, I tried to get this problem answered by Apple, but get nothing but the runaround from their support. While this appears to be a Home App issue, maybe one of the more technical people can help as it is also Sonos-related.

 

I have a mix of HomePod Minis and Sonos Airplay-2 speakers scattered throughout the house. Some rooms only have HomePods, some rooms have only Sonos and some contain both. I want the ability to create a group that I can reference as a single entity and contains only the devices I select - for example, when I play music in a room that contains both Sonos and HomePod Mini, I only want the Sonos to play. Hence the need to be able to chose and pick which speakers are in the 'group'. (The HomePod’s are primarily deployed to provide intercom functionality, speakers in places where a Sonos speaker would be overkill, such as the two garages, and provide voice commands for other Homekit accessories.)

 

I believe the Home app used to have the ability to create groups, but that seems to have gone away in a recent build - now the options seems to be zones, which does not address this scenario.

I’ve used Apple HomeKit for a long time and I’ve not seen ‘groups’ in that App -  the Home is divided just into ‘Rooms’ as shown in the attached screenshot. 

Has anyone addressed this problem in the past?

 

Thanks, Darrell

The only way to stream audio across both Apple and Sonos devices is to use the Airplay selector on the iOS device as far as I’m aware, or you can ask Siri to play to a Sonos Room …and then group that room with other Sonos ‘rooms’ in the Sonos App.

Thanks, Ken.

 

I found another thread on this site which suggested a solution: Create psuedo-rooms (such as “Kitchen-HomePod”, “Masterbedroom-Homepod”, etc.) and drop the Homepods in those rooms. Then create a zone called “House’ that includes all rooms EXCEPT those psuedo-rooms. That way, Siri commands as “Play music in House” plays on those speakers that I want. This way, the intercom function still works, and if the mood takes me, I can intercom to specific rooms.

 

Groups in the Home app would have been so much cleaner and better, and Apple does suggest they are there: https://support.apple.com/guide/ipad/control-accessories-ipad82770048/ipados. It’s just that I can’t find out where they are ! (Hence my frustration with Apple support.)

Thanks, Ken.

 

I found another thread on this site which suggested a solution: Create psuedo-rooms (such as “Kitchen-HomePod”, “Masterbedroom-Homepod”, etc.) and drop the Homepods in those rooms. Then create a zone called “House’ that includes all rooms EXCEPT those psuedo-rooms. That way, Siri commands as “Play music in House” plays on those speakers that I want. This way, the intercom function still works, and if the mood takes me, I can intercom to specific rooms.

 

Groups in the Home app would have been so much cleaner and better, and Apple does suggest they are there: https://support.apple.com/guide/ipad/control-accessories-ipad82770048/ipados. It’s just that I can’t find out where they are ! (Hence my frustration with Apple support.)

Glad you have found a ‘workaround’ solution to the issue here.. 👍

That is the first time I’ve seen ‘groups’ mentioned for HomeKit and I have now found the option. It seems it’s available on ‘some’ of the accessories I have here, namely it’s available for Philips Hue lights - see screenshots attached. (Hope they make sense).

It seems ‘Groups’ are not available/implemented on every type of smart-home product in HomeKit and by the looks of it, that currently includes Sonos devices too.

I went onto look at grouping our Hue lights we have here and created a multiroom Group called ‘Downstairs Lights’ (just as a test) and it places the chosen lights from our existing rooms into one overarching Group… browse through the other screenshots I’ve attached.

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