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July 25, 2024

Update on the Sonos App from Patrick Spence

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Update on the Sonos App from Patrick Spence

Hello everyone,

We wanted to take a moment to address concerns regarding our new app that launched in May. At Sonos, delivering an exceptional experience is paramount to all that we do. Unfortunately, your experiences over the past several weeks have fallen short of our commitment to you.

Today, our CEO Patrick Spence published a letter that includes a detailed update on the progress we’ve been making and plans going forward. You can read the full letter here.

We sincerely appreciate your patience and continued support. We are working hard to earn back your trust and are more committed than ever to delivering a consistently great Sonos experience for everyone.

Thank you all for your patience,
Your Sonos Team

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    Contributor I
    July 26, 2024

    On 23rd April 2024, I received an email from Sonos entitled 

    “A big update is coming to the Sonos App”

    Within that email was a question and answer list which included

    “ How will this affect my system?

    We've taken great care to ensure that this update only enhances your Sonos experience. Your products, features and services will work as they always have, and all your settings will be saved”

    Also, there was an exhortation to Turn on Automatic Updates……

    Maybe I’ve missed something - but this doesn’t seem to have been addressed in the CEO’s apology.

    This was a massive lie. They knew it was a lie, but went ahead anyway with both the lie and the new app in one of the most egregious anti customer acts in corporate history.

    I’m surprised an enterprising lawyer hasn’t started a class action against Sonos for deliberate deception.

    skullc
    Prodigy III
    July 26, 2024

    I applaud the note and taking responsibility. Good to see that note being issued (a bit later than people might have expected but good nonetheless). 

    But despite the contrition, and if this forum over the last couple of months is any indicator, I fear this thread will still shortly become a breeding ground and echo chamber for abuse and toxicity…. 

     

    Heheh, that didn’t take long . . .


    I love that it’s your personal challenge to get the Patrick Spence letter thread closed to comments by page 3! 😁

    If people don’t respond with barbed comments or intentionally try to get posts shutdown as someone is applauding you for apparently there would probably be less toxic abuse going on

    just an observation 

    Network= livewire cpe pro 3 +eero 6 pro wireless
    jgatie
    July 26, 2024

    This was a massive lie. They knew it was a lie, but went ahead anyway with both the lie and the new app in one of the most egregious anti customer acts in corporate history.

    I’m surprised an enterprising lawyer hasn’t started a class action against Sonos for deliberate deception.

     

    I’m surprised that the hundreds of users who said they were going to consult a lawyer and file a class action suit haven’t posted back yet.

    Check that.  I’m really not surprised at all. 

    jgatie
    July 26, 2024

    If people don’t respond with barbed comments or intentionally try to get posts shutdown as someone is applauding you for apparently there would probably be less toxic abuse going on

    just an observation 

     

    Yeah, the posts trying to insert a little reality in the toxic stew are the cause of the toxicity?  Is that what you are saying? 

    Prodigy III
    July 26, 2024

    I applaud the note and taking responsibility. Good to see that note being issued (a bit later than people might have expected but good nonetheless). 

    But despite the contrition, and if this forum over the last couple of months is any indicator, I fear this thread will still shortly become a breeding ground and echo chamber for abuse and toxicity…. 

     

    Heheh, that didn’t take long . . .


    I love that it’s your personal challenge to get the Patrick Spence letter thread closed to comments by page 3! 😁

    If people don’t respond with barbed comments or intentionally try to get posts shutdown as someone is applauding you for apparently there would probably be less toxic abuse going on

    just an observation 

    He was not trying to get the thread closed down, and neither was I applauding him for doing so. It was a wry comment that anyone could see was not meant literally. 

    skullc
    Prodigy III
    July 26, 2024

    I applaud the note and taking responsibility. Good to see that note being issued (a bit later than people might have expected but good nonetheless). 

    But despite the contrition, and if this forum over the last couple of months is any indicator, I fear this thread will still shortly become a breeding ground and echo chamber for abuse and toxicity…. 

     

    Heheh, that didn’t take long . . .


    I love that it’s your personal challenge to get the Patrick Spence letter thread closed to comments by page 3! 😁

    If people don’t respond with barbed comments or intentionally try to get posts shutdown as someone is applauding you for apparently there would probably be less toxic abuse going on

    just an observation 

    He was not trying to get the thread closed down, and neither was I applauding him for doing so. It was a wry comment that anyone could see was not meant literally. 

    Glad to hear it 

    off to listen to my WiiM you all have a good evening 😊

    Network= livewire cpe pro 3 +eero 6 pro wireless
    Contributor II
    July 26, 2024

    This app has gone downhill and is barely functional. I'll be connected to my two play-1 listening to music and then the app shows not connected. Since they removed playing from your device I uploaded to YouTube music and it shows only 500 tracks. It also seems to only play certain ones. Also you have to create favorites, I can't find a way to play all song on shuffle. This has been very disappointing. 

    Enthusiast II
    July 26, 2024

    My position: S1&S2 user; 8 zones, 10+ years user of Sonos, music on Synology NAS plus Spotify.  Punk rock to Beethoven (or should that be the other way around?).  Managed software teams for years, understand that there are times when you have to push on despite difficulties; other times be bold and revert.

     

    IMO there should be more blame (vitriol? 😂) directed at Maxime Bouvat-Merlin who is the guy who determines the releases; I assume he tells CEO “we’re ready, releasing new controller next week” - the CEO shouldn’t need to micromanage because he should be able to trust his reports.  Either Maxime did not have the information (thus no respect from his reports so should be dismissed) or he lied to CEO (gross misconduct so should be dismissed).  He’s the product guy, he should be held accountable.

    So many of us are feeling acute embarrassment because we’ve recommended Sonos to family and friends - now our opinion is diminished.

    Tangent: with this rewrite and offloading to Sonos servers, I wonder if it’ll be possible to remove the need for S1&S2, given that the original reason cited was that the older devices didn’t have the resources.  If some of the processing has been removed, has that freed up resources?

    Don’t forget the CEO told us initially that everyone loves this app (only a vocal 1% making all the noise)  and that he and leadership had been using it for months prior and love it. He lies and should be gone- he will not earn back my trust.  

    Enthusiast II
    July 26, 2024

    Of course it was removed, users could do something beforehand and their ability to do them after the update was removed - never mind the incredible number of bugs that were introduced.  Although, by the same logic can it be said they weren't introduced?  How Sonos came about to that is completely irrelevant to users.

    I'm just trying to imagine explaining to a user why they can't do something in my code isn't because it's been removed but because I started again and re-wrote it.  Bizarre logic.

    They should maybe just release the App that Patrick has used since Christmas because that was great apparently.

    Yes- at least someone else remembers the lies he told out of the gate. 

    Avid Contributor III
    July 26, 2024

    NY Times Wirecutter review site, as of this week, no longer recommends Sonos as a top pick for wireless speakers.

    “Sonos recently rolled out a major update to its control app that had a ton of problems, leaving its customers with a much less intuitive experience than they had before. While the company is slowly addressing some of the major issues with the new app, this is not the first time Sonos has hurt customer trust through poorly executed changes”

     I wonder if that got the Sonos execs’ attention.