'On this iPhone or iPad' No Longer Available

Built in redundancy is a choice. Not equipping the Play:1 with Airplay and stopping play “from this iPhone” where (at least that's Sonos’ explanation) based on technical possibilities/impossibilities.

Playing from a device is still possible, I believe. You could try storing you music on an Android tablet and playing from that.

9to5Mac found that Apple has also removed almost all references to the Apple TV Remote app, suggesting that the company has in fact discontinued it. A 9to5Mac reader told us that he contacted Apple support to ask about the app, but not even the support agent could explain what happened. dll error fix

For Play:5 (Gen 1) or Connect (Gen 1) owners thatwant to play from their iPhone or iPad: https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-SoundForm-Connect-AirPlay-Receiver-Streaming-3-5mm-Speaker-Other-AirPlay-Enabled/dp/B094LGLJB9

I have been away for a little bit, but I recently found a solution that works albeit requiring a PC/Mac on the network. Using AirConnect running as a service on my PC, I am now able to AirPlay to the Play:1. As I mentioned before the removal of a feature from a purchased product was not right on Sonos’ part. I will never buy another Sonos or recommend it to anyone.

Sonos didn’t remove it, Apple did. As proof, I offer the removal of the same feature from Bluesound devices at the exact same time it started to show problems on Sonos.

So, are you now giving up on buying Apple products?

Sonos didn’t remove it, Apple did. As proof, I offer the removal of the same feature from Bluesound devices at the exact same time it started to show problems on Sonos.

So, are you now giving up on buying Apple products?

I think I responded to this argument before. I bought a product from Sonos not Apple. That seems hard to understand for some reason. If Sonos’ product changed features AFTER being bought and the reason given was that ninsert anyone/thing in here other than Sonos] makes it impossible now to offer that product, then Sonos needs to make it right. Their worldview is an ego centric one. “Hey it’s not us, its them.”. Look up the work accountable (and then customer satisfaction and brand loyalty). Sonos has not done the right thing. As a result I am out and will never buy their product. They can do the SAME EXACT thing with AirPlay:2 tomorrow with the newer products. Something changes and it’s “It’s not us, it’s them. And you are screwed. Have a good one.” I say screw that. Buyer beware.

Yawn

I think I responded to this argument before. I bought a product from Sonos not Apple. That seems hard to understand for some reason. If Sonos’ product changed features AFTER being bought and the reason given was that insert anyone/thing in here other than Sonos] makes it impossible now to offer that product, then Sonos needs to make it right. Their worldview is an ego centric one. “Hey it’s not us, its them.”. Look up the work accountable (and then customer satisfaction and brand loyalty). Sonos has not done the right thing. As a result I am out and will never buy their product. They can do the SAME EXACT thing with AirPlay:2 tomorrow with the newer products. Something changes and it’s “It’s not us, it’s them. And you are screwed. Have a good one.” I say screw that. Buyer beware.

I don’t need to look up jack squat. It is you who need to look up EULA law. Here, I’ll give you the TL;DR version - You only buy the hardware, you have a license to use the software, which includes the provision that features may change due to forces out of the company’s control. Period.

Sonos didn’t remove it, Apple did. As proof, I offer the removal of the same feature from Bluesound devices at the exact same time it started to show problems on Sonos.

So, are you now giving up on buying Apple products?

I think I responded to this argument before. I bought a product from Sonos not Apple.

You didn’t buy an iphone?

That seems hard to understand for some reason. If Sonos’ product changed features AFTER being bought and the reason given was that oinsert anyone/thing in here other than Sonos] makes it impossible now to offer that product, then Sonos needs to make it right.

How could Sonos provide a feature that’s been blocked by the OS? Did you want them to sue Apple or something. Provide you with an android phone? discount code? cash?

Their worldview is an ego centric one. “Hey it’s not us, its them.”.

It’s not a view, it’s reality.

Look up the work accountable (and then customer satisfaction and brand loyalty). Sonos has not done the right thing. As a result I am out and will never buy their product. They can do the SAME EXACT thing with AirPlay:2 tomorrow with the newer products. Something changes and it’s “It’s not us, it’s them. And you are screwed. Have a good one.” I say screw that. Buyer beware.

If Apple decides to cancel airplay 2 tommorow, there is nothing Sonos can do about it. This is the reality that requires integration between two different products. If one of them changes, it doesn’t work anymore. You would have a point if Sonos just cancelled airplay and Apple was still providing it, but that is not the case.

They can do the SAME EXACT thing with AirPlay:2 tomorrow with the newer products.

This definitely wins the prize for the dumbest comment of the year so far on this forum, perhaps any forum.

They can do the SAME EXACT thing with AirPlay:2 tomorrow with the newer products.

This definitely wins the prize for the dumbest comment of the year so far on this forum, perhaps any forum.

I’m not sure; there have been some pretty dumb ones. But it’s certainly a strong contender.

They can do the SAME EXACT thing with AirPlay:2 tomorrow with the newer products.

This definitely wins the prize for the dumbest comment of the year so far on this forum, perhaps any forum.

Me monkey. Me have no argument. hooohhhhooo! Me throw feces at people. hoooohahah!

Talking about a dumb ass... Guess what monkey boy? I am still not buying a Sonos and telling every one to stay from them. They have zero brand loyalty. Suck on that banana.

It’s not a view, it’s reality.

If Apple decides to cancel airplay 2 tommorow, there is nothing Sonos can do about it. This is the reality that requires integration between two different products. If one of them changes, it doesn’t work anymore. You would have a point if Sonos just cancelled airplay and Apple was still providingit, but that is not the case.

@melvimbe What is the purpose of a networked speaker? Is it so that jerkoffs like @John B and @jgatie can have something to do in their miserable lives on product forums? Nein, it’s simple. It’s to play music. It’s not rocket science. And pray tell, what is the source of the digital music the speaker is meant to sound? Some computer on the network. And do we live in 1999 when everyone had their digital music on a Napster server at home? No. The primary way is people have their music on mobile devices and the iPhone is a flagship product that many users play / store music on. So, when you go and decide to chop off the main artery of your product - i.e. play music off a phone - as a product manager and as a company you gone and *****. Period. I don’t care what the reasons are. The raison d'etre for the product is gone. Might as well sell a **** box. So to throw your hand up to the paying customer and say “Sorry, not our problem. Apple did it” without providing a fair solution is not right. Now what’s a fair solution you ask? Maybe a discount to upgrade to another product that actually plays digital music over the phone? Sure. Maybe a free upgrade? Even better. Maybe enable AirPlay on the device (and pay Apple whatever fee)? Even better yet. Point is this was not a little feature that got yanked. It was THE reason for the product for something like 98% of buyers. Sonos was blind to that and offered zip, zilch. “Good luck. Apple did it”. Well that’s their choice. I am sticking to mine: Won’t buy a Sonos ever and will tell others to stay away. This can happen again and Sonos will hang them dry. Maybe some of you here are ok with that. I am not.

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As mentioned on this forum according to Sonos most people use their system to stream music from Spotify etc. In no way the “the primary way is people have their music on mobile devices". Of course having taken a feature that to you is an important part of your use case, is not funny.

I however do believe that there was no way around this for Sonos when Apple took away the capability to play from an iPhone. And, though I have not checked, I believe Sonos is in their right to do so. You have the right to hold it against them and not buy any new Sonos devices. Just be prepaired that the same issuses will crop up on any connected system. If you do not want this, your only path is to buy an old fashioned CD-player and amp.

I think it's time to stop feeding the troll. I am sure that @Heems is far too intelligent to actually believe the arguments he is putting forward. This topic has been dead for two years. Let it rest in peace.

“It’s not that people are ignorant, it’s that they know so much that just isn’t so.”

Paraphrased from Ronald Reagan

% of people who stream their own content on Sonos - Less than 10%.

% of people who streamed their music from an iDevice - Less than 50% of that 10%, because Sonos is split approximately 50/50 Android/iDevice, and the original usage of Sonos was to stream from a library housed on a computer or NAS.

Also genius, any product which doesn’t have Airplay already gives you an automatic upgrade discount, and you get to keep the product.

So, how’s that for a jerkoff?

It’s not a view, it’s reality.

If Apple decides to cancel airplay 2 tommorow, there is nothing Sonos can do about it. This is the reality that requires integration between two different products. If one of them changes, it doesn’t work anymore. You would have a point if Sonos just cancelled airplay and Apple was still providingit, but that is not the case.

@melvimbe What is the purpose of a networked speaker? Is it so that jerkoffs like @John B and @jgatie can have something to do in their miserable lives on product forums? Nein, it’s simple. It’s to play music. It’s not rocket science. And pray tell, what is the source of the digital music the speaker is meant to sound? Some computer on the network. And do we live in 1999 when everyone had their digital music on a Napster server at home? No. The primary way is people have their music on mobile devices and the iPhone is a flagship product that many users play / store music on.

Wrong. Do you honestly think that the majority of people are storing music on their phones? I have a hard time believing you. None of your friends that you say you’ll talk about Sonos to use streaming services?

So, when you go and decide to chop off the main artery of your product - i.e. play music off a phone - as a product manager and as a company you gone and *****. Period. I don’t care what the reasons are. The raison d'etre for the product is gone. Might as well sell a **** box. So to throw your hand up to the paying customer and say “Sorry, not our problem. Apple did it” without providing a fair solution is not right. Now what’s a fair solution you ask? Maybe a discount to upgrade to another product that actually plays digital music over the phone? Sure. Maybe a free upgrade? Even better. Maybe enable AirPlay on the device (and pay Apple whatever fee)? Even better yet. Point is this was not a little feature that got yanked. It was THE reason for the product for something like 98% of buyers.

So you think 98% of Sonos customers have iphones that are not airplay compatible or don’t have Sonos speakers that are airplay compatible, and they play music stored on their phone?

Sonos was blind to that and offered zip, zilch. “Good luck. Apple did it”. Well that’s their choice. I am sticking to mine: Won’t buy a Sonos ever and will tell others to stay away. This can happen again and Sonos will hang them dry. Maybe some of you here are ok with that. I am not.

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As long as Sonos has no control over what Apple and Google does with their software, then yes, it absolutely could happen again. I’m ok with that, because it’s just the reality of the situation. It’s no different than the reality that Apple/Google could decide they no longer want to support bluetooth, which means all my bluetooth headphones and speakers would no longer work. If that were to happen, I wouldn’t blame the people who made the headphones/speakers, I’d blame Apple/Google.

If I may: peace folks, there are just speakers, we don’t need to kill each other upon such topic! I’ve made AirConnect so that you can still have both, so enjoy this rather.

I just don’t understand what the big deal is on this. Most of my music I played is through streaming services. I uploaded all my CDs ages ago to Apple Music and pay the $25 a year to access it anywhere.

This forum sounds to be full of folks who dislike Apple. Admittedly I am all in on Apple products.

Why does Sonos not have AirPlay but every other speaker does? ...sounds like Sonos not stepping their game up.

I curate my only music library and don’t use any streaming service and was just gifted a Sonos Play 1. Imagine my surprise in learning it’s just a brick unless I decide to setup a NAS or pay a streaming service.

Insane to me to sell a speaker than can’t just play your music.

This has made me make the jump to iTunes Match, which hopefully will work once it’s done processing.

Overall amazed how inane it is to sell a speaker than can’t play anything local.

Odd. Most of my Sonos speakers support AirPlay 2. Only those that were manufactured before the standard existed lack the hardware necessary to receive that signal. I use AirPlay 2 rather frequently with my Sonos, and group my older speakers with the newer ones so that I can get that signal on all speakers.

It’s not a view, it’s reality.

If Apple decides to cancel airplay 2 tommorow, there is nothing Sonos can do about it. This is the reality that requires integration between two different products. If one of them changes, it doesn’t work anymore. You would have a point if Sonos just cancelled airplay and Apple was still providingit, but that is not the case.

@melvimbe What is the purpose of a networked speaker? Is it so that jerkoffs like @John B and @jgatie can have something to do in their miserable lives on product forums? Nein, it’s simple. It’s to play music. It’s not rocket science. And pray tell, what is the source of the digital music the speaker is meant to sound? Some computer on the network. And do we live in 1999 when everyone had their digital music on a Napster server at home? No. The primary way is people have their music on mobile devices and the iPhone is a flagship product that many users play / store music on. So, when you go and decide to chop off the main artery of your product - i.e. play music off a phone - as a product manager and as a company you gone and *****. Period. I don’t care what the reasons are. The raison d'etre for the product is gone. Might as well sell a **** box. So to throw your hand up to the paying customer and say “Sorry, not our problem. Apple did it” without providing a fair solution is not right. Now what’s a fair solution you ask? Maybe a discount to upgrade to another product that actually plays digital music over the phone? Sure. Maybe a free upgrade? Even better. Maybe enable AirPlay on the device (and pay Apple whatever fee)? Even better yet. Point is this was not a little feature that got yanked. It was THE reason for the product for something like 98% of buyers. Sonos was blind to that and offered zip, zilch. “Good luck. Apple did it”. Well that’s their choice. I am sticking to mine: Won’t buy a Sonos ever and will tell others to stay away. This can happen again and Sonos will hang them dry. Maybe some of you here are ok with that. I am not.

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I feel for you Heems. I completely understand your point and it seems the responders are Trolling you. There is no way they don’t understand your argument.

Also, why is Sonos the only speaker (ok someone mentioned 1 other I’ve never heard of) that stopped allowing AirPlay? I have tons of other speakers that still work. Seems insane for folks to be defending Sonos turning this product into an expensive brick. Are they super Sonos fanboys or something? My guess is haters of Apple.

Unboxed my Play 1 yesterday to learn it’s a brick.

This forum sounds to be full of folks who dislike Apple. Admittedly I am all in on Apple products.

Why does Sonos not have AirPlay but every other speaker does? ...sounds like Sonos not stepping their game up.

https://support.sonos.com/s/article/1230?language=en_US

I curate my only music library and don’t use any streaming service and was just gifted a Sonos Play 1. Imagine my surprise in learning it’s just a brick unless I decide to setup a NAS or pay a streaming service.

Sonos does not sell Play:1s anymore. They stopped selling them before airplay 2 came out.

You can play local audio files from a PC, Mac, NAS, or Android. You can’t play local files (without airplay or bluetooth) from a iOS device basically because Apple doesn’t allow it.

Insane to me to sell a speaker than can’t just play your music.

You said you received your play:1 as a gift. I assume it was used.

This has made me make the jump to iTunes Match, which hopefully will work once it’s done processing.

Overall amazed how inane it is to sell a speaker than can’t play anything local.

Maybe ask questions or do a little research before you come to inaccurate conclusions?

Also, why is Sonos the only speaker (ok someone mentioned 1 other I’ve never heard of) that stopped allowing AirPlay? I have tons of other speakers that still work. Seems insane for folks to be defending Sonos turning this product into an expensive brick. Are they super Sonos fanboys or something? My guess is haters of Apple.

Unboxed my Play 1 yesterday to learn it’s a brick.

Sonos has never stopped supporting Airplay 2. When it was announced, Sonos implemented it on every Sonos speaker they ever made that had the hardware capability to support it.

This thread is not actually about airplay, but Sonos own feature that allowed people to play audio files stored on their iOS device using the Sonos app. The feature no longer function properly after Apple made changes to iOS, effectively blocking the feature. This all happen years ago around the same time Airplay went live.