I have to say that much of the conversations here and on other similar threads are very amusing and entertaining. I am often reminded of my four year old granddaughter, who simply refuses to taste food that looks even a little different. But to her credit she also loves the story Green Eggs and Ham, and hopefully is absorbing some messages from it.
I am also reminded of her two years ago when she had a play pen. Any time she wanted to get attention, she used to start tossing her toys out of the pen. She did not know about eBay.
Actually, your post is rather insulting. It's not a matter of being unable to adapt, it is just basic ergonomic design to avoid having to move finger all over the screen for basic things. If I remember well, the previous application had just a button up middle to scroll down and select room, with a group button to group rooms.
At this level of bad faith Kumar, it's not only blindness, it's sectarism not to see that!
Simple? Nope, what used to take 2 clicks, now takes 10.
Give one example of this please.
Easy: change room!
Need to go up left, then bottom middle, then scroll to find your room if you have more than three, then bottom left to unscroll and go back to your usual screen, then My Sonos (gosh, forgot to go up and left to scroll again !) then bottom left for My Sonos, and scroll again vertically and horizontally to get my favourite !!!!
And you find it easier on the new app ? ;)
Of course; I can do it a lot faster now that I know the app, compared to your tap dance.
And for specifically desired outcomes, I can even change rooms without either the app or the controller on the Mac.
Of course; I can do it a lot faster now that I know the app, compared to your tap dance.
And for specifically desired outcomes, I can even change rooms without either the app or the controller on the Mac.
Give you recipe and we'll see if it fits my needs.
@FlorentBL. I agree with your point about it being irritating to have to keep getting the Now Playing screen out of the way to get back to the navigation bar. A lot of people have said the nav bar should be permanently visible and I am hopeful Sonos will respond on that. I find it marginally quicker and less irritating to swipe the screen down and up rather than tap the arrows. Also, to select a room and return to the Now Playing screen, double tap that room in the Rooms list.
@John B. Definitely, having the navigation bar permanently would help. I also tend to think that the red menu is misleading. It would be easy to merge the two interface, or to support all features in both places. For instance: clicking on the name in the red menu would change the display of the room, keeping the checkbox for grouping. Currently, I see also a bug in the fact that you cannot "move" music using this menu (actually it doesn't work for me, it just shuts down music).
And then we have the My Sonos which seems just a matter of icon size to me. It could become a very convenient interface just as the "App Panel" should they lower the size of the icons and adopt a convenient 4 x 4 or 4 x 5 grid.
@John B. Definitely, having the navigation bar permanently would help. I also tend to think that the red menu is misleading. It would be easy to merge the two interface, or to support all features in both places. For instance: clicking on the name in the red menu would change the display of the room, keeping the checkbox for grouping. Currently, I see also a bug in the fact that you cannot "move" music using this menu (actually it doesn't work for me, it just shuts down music).
And then we have the My Sonos which seems just a matter of icon size to me. It could become a very convenient interface just as the "App Panel" should they lower the size of the icons and adopt a convenient 4 x 4 or 4 x 5 grid.I've abandoned the red room menu. If the nav bar were visible all the time it would seem pointless to me. I seem to be one of the few who believe this is a few tweaks away from being a really good app. Sonos have said that they are working on a number of aspects in light of constructive feedback like yours (unlike much of the 'this is a pile of garbage' criticism there has been).
Honestly, it is not the ergonomic that bothers me the most. This can be fixed rapidly. What's more a concern to me is instability. See https://en.community.sonos.com/troubleshooting-228999/8-1-update-completely-unstable-and-broken-6793707. I used to have a rock solid infrastructure, and I don't know why, but it is now becoming a nightmare. I spent the last four days investigating, but I must miss something, or there is really some nasty bug or incompatibility somewhere.
Well done on the new app. Really like it. Still can't use it without my reading glasses, but that's ok! Looking good, boys!
You have got to be kidding ... you must work for Sonos. Are you one of their developers....... This new app is a complete disaster.
So, what your saying is that everyone who disagrees with your viewpoint must work for Sonos? I'm pretty sure that the company requires all employees to have "SONOS" by their accounts. If you look at Ryan S, or Keith N, you'll see these indications.
I'm fairly comfortable in saying none of the folks who you've suggested are Sonos employees are that. Just other users who have a different opinion than yours.
Honestly, it is not the ergonomic that bothers me the most. This can be fixed rapidly. What's more a concern to me is instability. See https://en.community.sonos.com/troubleshooting-228999/8-1-update-completely-unstable-and-broken-6793707. I used to have a rock solid infrastructure, and I don't know why, but it is now becoming a nightmare. I spent the last four days investigating, but I must miss something, or there is really some nasty bug or incompatibility somewhere.Sorry but you really are mistaken here. Every single update I have seen - whether it involves a controller or not - leads to a handful of 'update broke my Sonos system' posts. If there were a genuine bug in the update there would be hundreds of posts about it. In fact I know of only one significant bug in an update and that did lead to hundreds of posts in a couple of days. Sometimes the rebooting of units causes a problem with IP addresses. And with hundreds of thousands of systems out there a few go wrong any day. Most days this leads to 'my system has stopped working' posts. When there has been an update, it's 'update broke my system'. Finally, the app is just a controller, and blaming it for system instability is like blaming your TV remote control because your TV has gone wrong.
Have you been investigating alone or with Sonos Support? Your problem is clearly real but the solution is going to be specific to your system, e.g. a faulty unit, some sort of network problem.
Finally, the app is just a controller, and blaming it for system instability is like blaming your TV remote control because your TV has gone wrong.
That should have been said somewhere a long time ago, and I envy you for being the first to, particularly the TV remote analogy. I shall copy it in future when I have the energy to do so, though.
Finally, the app is just a controller, and blaming it for system instability is like blaming your TV remote control because your TV has gone wrong.
That should have been said somewhere a long time ago, and I envy you for being the first to, particularly the TV remote analogy. I shall copy it in future when I have the energy to do so, though.Don't think it is my original, but still appropriate.
On another thread on the Sonos sound quality subject I was told to get my ears checked. Since I am quite ok with the new white app background, I can now anticipate the response to that statement.
I never said the system was instable, only the wifi. I believe there is something weird between the way the most recent Android handle wifi, and the Sonos controller. This could explain some of the posts I see here and there. Regarding Sonos support, I'm in touch through French community. But I wanted to sort out the WiFi stuff before going to them. We'll see what they find.
I believe there is something weird between the way the most recent Android handle wifi, and the Sonos controller.
No trouble in a 5 zone Mac + Android device controlled set up in my home after 8, 8.1, or 8.1.1, so the high probability is an issue with your install. See my reply to your post in your thread on the subject - the English one.
I never said the system was instable, only the wifi. I believe there is something weird between the way the most recent Android handle wifi, and the Sonos controller. This could explain some of the posts I see here and there. Regarding Sonos support, I'm in touch through French community. But I wanted to sort out the WiFi stuff before going to them. We'll see what they find.Please see my comments on your thread also.
Simple? Nope, what used to take 2 clicks, now takes 10.
Give one example of this please.
Thats not the point. The point is the old app, was apparently easy to use and the new app makes my Sonos friends asking for help all the time.
And thats no matter if it takes 4 or 40 clicks.
Lol.
Lol.
LOL? What?
Appalling app. Love looking at the ratings in Google Play going downhill daily. And don't forget, if you dislike 8.0 you can revise an earlier review downwards (or upwards for Kumar)
Nahh... I am happy with it, so I won't bother posting on ratings.
Lol.
LOL? What?
Nothing - it's just his latest avoidance strategy...
I'd like to see an option to go back to vertical small icons for the favourite listings (My Sonos), i'm not keen on the big icons scrolling horizontally.
I came here mainly to say that I am loving long press to join group.
Also agree with smaller icons in favorites in the app and persistent navigation tabs. A persistent 'room' bar would be handy too.
I came here mainly to say that I am loving long press to join group.
Also agree with smaller icons in favorites in the app and persistent navigation tabs. A persistent 'room' bar would be handy too.
That, basically, says it all. Some may throw in the back to blue, but that's about it. And for this, so much noise and heat everywhere...
By the way, the long press also does change rooms and follow me...if the last played speaker is silent.
