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November 27, 2016
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Sonos strategy

  • November 27, 2016
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As a long time Sonos user I have been following their development closely, especially in the last few years with the strong shift towards on-line services. The more I think about it the less sense this seems to make (it did make sense for a while). Isn't this a self-defeating strategy? I use on-line streaming services too but I am not likely to pay for more than one of those. So if I subscribe to one only why should I use the Sonos app to make use of it? Why not use the proprietary app (if there is one)? Of course there are some good reasons still because the Sonos equipment is pretty good, but it also shows its age and limitations and some of the reasons for using it in the past may no longer (fully) apply (Sonosnet). The number of mails on this forum in which the dismissive answer to a (new) user question asking for a specific feature is "sorry, no can do because the internal memory is limited and cannot handle that" is considerable and the answer, though true, is becoming somewhat stale. Yet it is the one issue that Sonos does not appear to be willing to tackle. We recently had a guy demonstrating a new speaker concept in the house who was rather dismissive of Sonos (completely undeserved of course, bit perfect is bit perfect) and wanted to know why we did not simply use a MacMini instead? And he has a point. It doesn't have to be a MacMini, it can also be an Intel NUC box or a JRiver ID (take your pick). There is something to be said for all of these and yet none of them offer the sort of functionality that would make me drop Sonos yet. After all, I have quite a bit of money invested in it too. But I have noticed I have had those extra speakers for a few more rooms on hold now for quite a while.

To come back to the original question. Where do you think Sonos is heading and what do you think their strategy is?

PS. What is this I read a few days ago about the Connect no longer being bit perfect? Does that only apply to new Connects or is it a software matter that affects all Connects?
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    Chris
    Lead Maestro
    December 3, 2016
    Focus on queue is blown up.
    Respect the Queue (2)Move (3)Beam (1) Era100 (2)ARC (1)SonosOne (1)Playbar (4)Play5 (4)Play1 (3)Play3 (1)Port (2)Connect (1) Roam (2) Ace (1)Connect:Amp (4)Sonos Amp (1)Sub + (9) Echo + Smartthings; (2)Play)
    December 3, 2016

    I don't understand; why would the new plan affect the 4 correctly identified attributes? By new plan I presume you refer to focus on voice control and streaming services.
    I don't see Sonosnet going away; Wifi mode is still more of marketing check the box feature and Sonos net is still alive and well for the reliability it provides.


    It is not the focus on voice and streaming that I am wondering about (well streaming a little because user experience varies greatly by geography and other factors) but more about their differentiating technologies. Voice control will be the best thing they have ever done if it works seamlessly between streamed and local music sources.

    I hope you are right about Sonosnet but the fact that they named the "marketing" option "standard mode" left me with the impression that Sonos was going to push towards Wi-Fi as their new standard going forward. Sonosnet is still there but is there any further development going on with it?

    As Chris points out the queue seems to have been changed in ways that has some people questioning their strategy for "ease of use". Are folks going to have to go through a major learning curve every few months as the user interface keeps trying to keep up with the latest trends seen in native streaming apps? Hopefully there won't be a way to accidently clear the queue via voice command as apparently can now happen on a touch screen controller.

    I'm just hoping there are some plans and maybe some new technology to make sure the stated strategy is rolled out in a way that keeps the system rock solid reliable and dead simple to use. A lot of what I'm reading here suggests people don't feel Sonos has fully maintained that standard during this transition period leading up to the new vision.
    Local music library with carefully constructed playlists - no shuffling!, Integration with Homeseer Automation, No touch screen devices, No streaming services, No Apple products ever
    December 4, 2016

    I hope you are right about Sonosnet

    Are folks going to have to go through a major learning curve every few months as the user interface keeps trying to keep up with the latest trends seen in native streaming apps?


    I understand that Sonosnet has not seen any development beyond the progress made in Boost, but then, no one else has anything like it even now. So it is still a potent differentiator.

    As to the second part, I suppose that as the use of native apps in Sonos gets more widespread, there should be less need to keep changing the Sonos controller UI and features.

    I agree that more should be done to bring the reliability/stability of the system closer to legacy wired kit so that all the "doesn't work" noise is further reduced. But I am not a techie, so I could be accused of wanting things without being able to offer any insights into how this can be done.
    Lyricist III
    December 5, 2016
    My opinion....Amazon purchases Sonos in order to get the Echo further out ahead of the competition. I'm not sure if its an issue with Sonos or not, but Amazon can clearly provide R&D resources for Sonos.