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RaultTN
Prominent Collaborator I
January 8, 2023
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ARC intermittent connection loss possibly with Atmos only

Hi all. So far I think this is isolated to Atmos content however randomly while watching Prime Video or Disney content outputting Atmos (through fire stick 4K) I will lose signal (Beam gen 2 and two one sl’s as surround). When it happens I lose sound, the screen flashes and my tv’s LG logo appears for a second before going back to Disney or prime (whatever I’m watching).   I can push play and everything works again, but almost seems like something with the HDMI arc input is being “lost” for a split second.  Or maybe it’s the signal loss for a split second?  

I’ve changed HDMI cords and powered down both the tv and Beam to try and reset but no luck. Randomly happens, sometimes 5 minutes in and other times maybe 15 in. Any ideas?

fyi I recently changed to using SonosNet (beam hardwired Ethernet) as opposed to all wireless is this possibly an issue that anyone knows about?

Setup as follows:

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RaultTN
RaultTNAnswer
Prominent Collaborator I
January 10, 2023

Well gentlemen @Ken_Griffiths and @ThatOneDude  I think I am marking this as resolved.  Made it through the entire Disney + Atmos movie, and now running through an Amazon Prime Atmos show just to make sure but all is working as advertised and nothing cutting our nor any lip sync issues.  My System and settings are as follows:

System: LG TV with a Firestick 4K in HDMI 1, Sonos Beam (Gen 2) in HDMI 2 (Arc) both connected via HDMI.

LG TV Settings:

HDMI: ARC

Digital Sound Out: Auto

HDMI Input: all inputs set to Bitstream

Firestick 4K Settings:

Video Resolution: Auto

Match Original Frame Rate: Off

Color Depth: Up to 10 bits

Color Format: Auto

Dynamic Range Setting: Adaptive

Surround Sound: Best Available

  

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RaultTN
RaultTNAuthor
Prominent Collaborator I
January 8, 2023

 @Ken_Griffiths   A couple of other things I am trying this afternoon. I had two settings I recently changed on my LG. The first is called “Instant Game Response” which was toggled “On” for hdmi1 (fire stick). No idea if it could be the culprit but there is a warning stating “when initiated the video may blink temporarily”. So we’ll see.  The other is “HDMI Ultra HD”. It also has a warning about potential issues if device is not supported. 

I have also unplugged Ethernet from my beam and now have all devices on Wi-Fi (WM:1) effectively disabling SonosNet (it’s greyed out anyways) so we’ll see how that goes. Fingers crossed. 

RaultTN
RaultTNAuthor
Prominent Collaborator I
January 8, 2023

@Ken_Griffiths No luck. Back to the drawing board.

Ken_Griffiths
January 8, 2023

@Ken_Griffiths  I had such a good feeling about the Xbox being the culprit however after just testing I got 10 minutes into Encanto (Atmos) and it happened again without the Xbox being connected. 

My thoughts, if it’s not the Xbox, are to perhaps next change the HDMI-ARC cable. If it was a network connection, I would have expected Apps, like Netflix etc; to display a ‘buffering’ moniker on the TV screen rather than see the LG logo.

But on a side note my surrounds were not working after restarting and when I went into the Sonos app it asked me to connect to my Wi-Fi network again (I deleted my network last night after establishing the SonosNet). So I am still in that process as we speak.  It’s been stuck on “Getting your Sonos One SL ready” for 5 minutes now.  Could the SonosNet be causing any of these issues possibly?  If so can I still hardwire my beam and use my Wi-Fi (not Sonos net) for my surrounds?  Not exactly sure how to disable just SonosNet unless that is what “disable Wi-Fi” is through tue Sonos app?  What do you think?

I would have just power-cycled the two surrounds. Note the HT surrounds do not use your WiFi network, instead they connect ‘directly’ to your Beam using a 5Ghz ad-hoc connection - the 5Ghz band is used as it’s faster and that helps keep all the HT audio in lip-sync with the video on screen. Whatever you do, do not switch off the WiFi adapters on any of your HT devices… it’s needed for connection between the HT players.

It is worth testing your setup with the Beam either wired (SonosNet) or wireless (often called ‘Station’ mode by some users) and see which works best as ‘sometimes’ wired/switch-linked networks can also have issues, so no harm testing both types of connection. Although I’m not (yet) convinced it’s a network connection issue, but perhaps more related to A/V connections to the LG TV.

Let me know if I can assist further.

Ken_Griffiths
January 8, 2023

@Ken_Griffiths No luck. Back to the drawing board.

Yes, it’s probably not the local network connections - I would revert back to wiring the Beam back to the switch or better still bypass the switch and wire directly back to the router if that’s practicable.

Do not disable the WiFi adapters on your Sonos products.

I would try a new HDMI cable between TV and Beam.. I would also try the FireTV in a different HDMI port - perhaps try it in HDMI-4 and see if that makes a difference.

You can cable back the XBox now too (leave it in HDMI-3 (if that’s where it was to begin with?)

RaultTN
RaultTNAuthor
Prominent Collaborator I
January 8, 2023

@Ken_Griffiths Random thought as I am looking at this “switch” my buddy gave me. Could this be my issue if this is a “cheap” switch and maybe not able to handle what the Atmos pulls from the network?

 

 

Ken_Griffiths
January 8, 2023

I have come certainly come across faulty switches myself in the past and Ethernet cables too …so maybe just try by-passing the switch (if practicable and easy to do) and just see what happens. 

Ken_Griffiths
January 8, 2023

Note the switch is a ‘gigabit’ switch, so it is easily able to handle the data requirements. In fact a 10/100 switch would be fine too, but cables and switches do sometimes develop faults - but maybe try your Fire TV 4K setup on its WiFi connection and eliminate/bypass the switch that way. 

RaultTN
RaultTNAuthor
Prominent Collaborator I
January 8, 2023

Ok going to Check out the firestick on Wi-Fi only and will see how goes. If that doesn’t work I’ll try the Beam direct from the wall port that the switch is connected too and bypass the switch all together. 

Thanks again sir.

Rick

Ken_Griffiths
January 8, 2023

@RaultTN,
Did you try switching the Beams HDMI cable, or is that something that you still might try later?

RaultTN
RaultTNAuthor
Prominent Collaborator I
January 8, 2023

I have switched HDMI cables with no luck. Also, It just cutout removing the Amazon network adaptor and using Wi-Fi for the Firestick so no luck there. I’ve just hardwired the beam direct into the router so here goes nothing. 
Rick