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DaveHamilton
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May 7, 2017
Question

Toggle Night Sound and Speech Enhancement with Harmony Remote?

  • May 7, 2017
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Have a new PLAYBASE running alongside a setup with a Harmony One (complete with Hub). Added the PLAYBASE to the Harmony config, but there are no options for the new, TV-specific features. Anyone have any luck adding these so they can be controlled via the Harmony (and I don't need to power-up my iPhone, etc).
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Sonos Staff
May 8, 2017
Hi DaveHamilton

I don't believe this is possible as the commands for those settings are communicated over UPnP via Wifi and I don't believe the Harmony Hub supports UPnP.

So it can only control via Infra Red and therefore only the volume and mute are controllable.

It would be great if the Harmony Hub supported UPnP ,as then you could program most sonos controls into the Harmony.

I hope this makes sense.

Many thanks
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VTENGR
Lyricist III
July 5, 2017
I wonder if Sonos will ever allow this functionality. Kind of silly to control volume with the remote but then have to use the app to control specific features.
Lyricist II
October 31, 2017
Hi DaveHamilton

I don't believe this is possible as the commands for those settings are communicated over UPnP via Wifi and I don't believe the Harmony Hub supports UPnP.

So it can only control via Infra Red and therefore only the volume and mute are controllable.

It would be great if the Harmony Hub supported UPnP ,as then you could program most sonos controls into the Harmony.

I hope this makes sense.

Many thanks


Then How does harmony control volume up and down and mute without tv or IR? Isn’t that through Wifi?
UKMedia
November 1, 2017
I use the Harmony Ultimate hub (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Harmony-Control-Smart-Devices-Black/dp/B014GXQ9YW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1509534594&sr=8-2&keywords=harmony+ultimate+hub) and also an old Harmony 1100 and they both work great with 100% control of all commands. The Utimate Hub also works with Alexa now, so I have voice control over the TV as well now. 🙂
Remember: Sometimes Red Wine helps :)
VTENGR
Lyricist III
November 1, 2017
Hi DaveHamilton

I don't believe this is possible as the commands for those settings are communicated over UPnP via Wifi and I don't believe the Harmony Hub supports UPnP.

So it can only control via Infra Red and therefore only the volume and mute are controllable.

It would be great if the Harmony Hub supported UPnP ,as then you could program most sonos controls into the Harmony.

I hope this makes sense.

Many thanks


Then How does harmony control volume up and down and mute without tv or IR? Isn’t that through Wifi?


The Harmony Elite uses a hub and IR blasters on the remote. So the hub controlled through wifi can sit in a cabinet, but the IR sensors can control the TV, etc... So for my setup the hub controls everything in the cabinet, but the actual remote control controls the PlayBar via IR.
VTENGR
Lyricist III
November 1, 2017
I use the Harmony Ultimate hub (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Harmony-Control-Smart-Devices-Black/dp/B014GXQ9YW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1509534594&sr=8-2&keywords=harmony+ultimate+hub) and also an old Harmony 1100 and they both work great with 100% control of all commands. The Utimate Hub also works with Alexa now, so I have voice control over the TV as well now. :)

I have this same HUB but can only control volume/mute via the remote. I can't toggle night time mode or enhanced audio mode. Those buttons are not included in the setup. Are you sure you have this functionality?
UKMedia
November 1, 2017
Not those specific ones but I've created custom buttons for other commands and I assume (maybe incorrectly ?) that the same approach could be used.
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VTENGR
Lyricist III
November 1, 2017
Not those specific ones but I've created custom buttons for other commands and I assume (maybe incorrectly ?) that the same approach could be used.

Can you describe how you did this? Did you contact Harmony directly? It's been several months, but I don't recall having custom buttons for these features through the My Harmony program
UKMedia
November 1, 2017
I may have misled you here - sorry. Just trying my approach for a play base and it doesn't work. Have you connected the harmony via wifi or ir in the device set-up? I use SonosNet and so can't use wifi.

I assume that you've seen this in the help pages:

Note: If you are using the Harmony Ultimate remote with the hub, you will need to tell the Harmony remote to send the commands to Sonos via Remote instead of the Harmony Hub. You can set this by going to Remote and Hub Assignments screen.
Remember: Sometimes Red Wine helps :)
nicka99
Local Superstar
November 1, 2017
I have a playbar (not playbase but its close enough) and harmony/hub. The commands to speech and night mode are not available. You would need to request these be added via Logitech support. Its not a Sonos problem as such.

Since the hub can issue all kinds of commands to any sonos device via wifi there is no technical reason this could not be added. Its just missing from the commands enabled so far.