This thread is specifically for those who are trying to understand the Playbars 5.1 and DTS issues.
As most of you know the Playbar does not convert DTS signal. It also will only convert 2.0 to SIMULATED PCM 5.1 signal. If you can live with the simulated signal, then you are ahead of the game. IF you want PURE unadulterated 5.1 from your DirecTV or Cable, you WILL most likely have to buy a switch like this one. http://www.monoprice.com/products/7974
Or a Bluray converter like this one.
http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/
MOST tvs will not convert true 5.1. There are some on this thread that say they do, but most dont. I found this out the hard way by buying one of Samsungs highest end tv's, only to find out that 2.0 is all im ever gunna get.
A $75 switch is a bargain IMO to have such sound to the Playbar the way it is intended. IF you want 1080p up convert video and and 5.1 audio, then a simular Bluray like the Oppo is for you.
Concerning movies that are only on DTS:
Oppo can convert the DTS signal to PCM 5.1 as well. I do not know about the Switch, because I do not have one.
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Take yourself and your customers seriously and update the playbar with DTS support or announce that you will release playbar 2 that supports DTS. Keeping your customers in the dark is not good and will undoubtedly damage you. Please stop being arrogant, thinking you are the market leader in your field. This is how companies, e.g. blackberry RIM, will be overtaken by others. Thank you again for your consideration.
PS. please also consider lowering price on playbar and subwoofer. Harman Kardon is cheaper and better quality. Offer more competitive price for those that are interested in both playbar and sub.
Best regards,
Why_no_DTS?
I don't think posting the same thing in multiple threads is a good idea. You are just going to irritate people, and you will achieve nothing as these forums are user run and are not (officially) read by Sonos themselves.
There's no dismissal. The comments are pointing out the lack of recognition of the futility of the attempts -- the comment between ours here being a perfect example.
Sonos,
Take yourself and your customers seriously and update the playbar with DTS support or announce that you will release playbar 2 that supports DTS. Keeping your customers in the dark is not good and will undoubtedly damage you. Please stop being arrogant, thinking you are the market leader in your field. This is how companies, e.g. blackberry RIM, will be overtaken by others. Thank you again for your consideration.
PS. please also consider lowering price on playbar and subwoofer. Harman Kardon is cheaper and better quality. Offer more competitive price for those that are interested in both playbar and sub.
Best regards,
Why_no_DTS?
Take yourself and your customers seriously and update the playbar with DTS support or announce that you will release playbar 2 that supports DTS. Keeping your customers in the dark is not good and will undoubtedly damage you. Please stop being arrogant, thinking you are the market leader in your field. This is how companies, e.g. blackberry RIM, will be overtaken by others. Thank you again for your consideration.
PS. please also consider lowering price on playbar and subwoofer. Harman Kardon is cheaper and better quality. Offer more competitive price for those that are interested in both playbar and sub.
Best regards,
Why_no_DTS?
Good to see the usual comments dismissing any attempts by prospective Playbar owners to gain a definitive answer on DTS. Probably by peoplle who are not wanting or waiting for the feature.
I dismissed this product for consideration due to the lack of DTS but support all those hoping for the feature and persuing Sonos for an answer.
I dismissed this product for consideration due to the lack of DTS but support all those hoping for the feature and persuing Sonos for an answer.
:rolleyes:
Keith
Of course. When you can simultaneously complain about the lack of a timely response and the lack of any new information in the responses you do get, your disappointment is pretty much guaranteed.
Entitlement Nation at its finest!
It was probably in response to incessant nagging about the lack of a more recent communication.
:rolleyes:
Keith
:rolleyes:
Keith
On the other hand, it does seem like a good excuse to sneak a PS4 purchase past the wife :)
But it does no good for the sales of Playbar's. It will put questions in peoples minds, will DTS be added and would that only be to a new version ?, would I have to buy a new unit ?, even if users never use DTS surround, I can't but help feel anyone researching one would now be put off.
I know I am.
But it does no good for the sales of Playbar's. It will put questions in peoples minds, will DTS be added and would that only be to a new version ?, would I have to buy a new unit ?, even if users never use DTS surround, I can't but help feel anyone researching one would now be put off.
I know I am.
Fingers crossed!
....brace yourself....
... is it a 'Yes'...
.... is it a 'No'....
..."John M (Official Rep) about 10 hours ago
Vineet, I do not have an update at this time. You will be notified via email when an update is made to the thread."
wow - after 4 months since the last update, I feel so much better now with that really useful insight into what is going on :rolleyes:
Hopefully, soon they will have an update as to when they will update us on the update to the update. :rolleyes: Looking forward to that!!
Userlevel 2
Hi,
I've potentially looking at buying Sonos, my requirements are
1. 5.1 surround sound in living room for music and TV (so looking to buy the play bar, sub and a pair of play 1s or play 3s
2. Outdoor speakers for my deck.
I've got a few questions I'd really appreciate some help with:
1.I've just bought a new Samsung TV, UA60ES6500 Samsung LED TV. I am also going to buy a new Apple TV. Does the sound bar work properly with Samsung?
2. I want outdoor speakers and was thinking the Bose 151SE. I believe I just buy the Sonos Connect Amp and then can link the Bose outdoor speakers as well. Is this right and anything I need to be aware of?
3. I already have a Bose Soundlink Air speaker which I've loved. If I get the Sonos Connect Amp, will this work as another speaker for indoors?
Thanks heaps
I've potentially looking at buying Sonos, my requirements are
1. 5.1 surround sound in living room for music and TV (so looking to buy the play bar, sub and a pair of play 1s or play 3s
2. Outdoor speakers for my deck.
I've got a few questions I'd really appreciate some help with:
1.I've just bought a new Samsung TV, UA60ES6500 Samsung LED TV. I am also going to buy a new Apple TV. Does the sound bar work properly with Samsung?
2. I want outdoor speakers and was thinking the Bose 151SE. I believe I just buy the Sonos Connect Amp and then can link the Bose outdoor speakers as well. Is this right and anything I need to be aware of?
3. I already have a Bose Soundlink Air speaker which I've loved. If I get the Sonos Connect Amp, will this work as another speaker for indoors?
Thanks heaps
Userlevel 7
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so after 11 months of waiting, the latest response from Sonos at ask.sonos.com to the DTS question is....
....brace yourself....
... is it a 'Yes'...
.... is it a 'No'....
..."John M (Official Rep) about 10 hours ago
Vineet, I do not have an update at this time. You will be notified via email when an update is made to the thread."
wow - after 4 months since the last update, I feel so much better now with that really useful insight into what is going on :rolleyes:
....brace yourself....
... is it a 'Yes'...
.... is it a 'No'....
..."John M (Official Rep) about 10 hours ago
Vineet, I do not have an update at this time. You will be notified via email when an update is made to the thread."
wow - after 4 months since the last update, I feel so much better now with that really useful insight into what is going on :rolleyes:
Userlevel 2
I can't say for certain, but based on what I've seen, no. I think the switch will downconvert the higher-level formats to their 5.1 versions, but will not transcode between Dolby and DTS formats.
Userlevel 2
My setup as tested:
Sony KDL-70R520A TV (which will pass 5.1 through optical, even for HDMI-connected sources)
Sony BDP-N460 Blu-Ray Player
Monoprice 7974
I connected the BDP to the 7974 switch with HDMI. I connected the 7974 to the TV with HDMI. I connected the 7974 to the Playbar with Toslink.
I played the 2009 Star Trek Blu-Ray, which has a Dolby TrueHD track. The 7974 switch was outputting Dolby Digital 5.1 to the Playbar, according to the Sonos app.
I played "The Heat" Blu-Ray, which has a DTS-HD track. The 7974 was outputting an incompatible audio format to the Playbar (likely DTS 5.1).
So, it gave me 5.1 sound from Dolby TrueHD discs, but not from DTS-HD discs. Until Sonos fixes the Playbar to decode DTS, the Monoprice 7974 is only half a solution.
Other notes: The 7974 seemed like a solid unit. The HDMI-CEC worked properly and switched between active inputs with no effort on my part. The ARC function worked properly and passed the Dolby 5.1 to the Playbar from my AppleTV and DirecTV receiver that were connectied directly to the TV. The LEDs on the front are a little bright. Might want to color them over with a marker or something.
Thanks for the info. Can you tell me if this switch can transcode from dts to dolby 5.1?
Userlevel 2
If anyone is still interested, the Monoprice 7974 performs with mixed results. It WILL convert Dolby TrueHD into Dolby Digital 5.1. It WILL NOT convert (transcode) DTS-HD into Dolby Digital 5.1. It appears that it would convert DTS-HD to DTS 5.1, which is still useless to the Playbar. So, this unit is not a solution to the DTS/Playbar issue.
My setup as tested:
Sony KDL-70R520A TV (which will pass 5.1 through optical, even for HDMI-connected sources)
Sony BDP-N460 Blu-Ray Player
Monoprice 7974
I connected the BDP to the 7974 switch with HDMI. I connected the 7974 to the TV with HDMI. I connected the 7974 to the Playbar with Toslink.
I played the 2009 Star Trek Blu-Ray, which has a Dolby TrueHD track. The 7974 switch was outputting Dolby Digital 5.1 to the Playbar, according to the Sonos app.
I played "The Heat" Blu-Ray, which has a DTS-HD track. The 7974 was outputting an incompatible audio format to the Playbar (likely DTS 5.1).
So, it gave me 5.1 sound from Dolby TrueHD discs, but not from DTS-HD discs. Until Sonos fixes the Playbar to decode DTS, the Monoprice 7974 is only half a solution.
Other notes: The 7974 seemed like a solid unit. The HDMI-CEC worked properly and switched between active inputs with no effort on my part. The ARC function worked properly and passed the Dolby 5.1 to the Playbar from my AppleTV and DirecTV receiver that were connectied directly to the TV. The LEDs on the front are a little bright. Might want to color them over with a marker or something.
My setup as tested:
Sony KDL-70R520A TV (which will pass 5.1 through optical, even for HDMI-connected sources)
Sony BDP-N460 Blu-Ray Player
Monoprice 7974
I connected the BDP to the 7974 switch with HDMI. I connected the 7974 to the TV with HDMI. I connected the 7974 to the Playbar with Toslink.
I played the 2009 Star Trek Blu-Ray, which has a Dolby TrueHD track. The 7974 switch was outputting Dolby Digital 5.1 to the Playbar, according to the Sonos app.
I played "The Heat" Blu-Ray, which has a DTS-HD track. The 7974 was outputting an incompatible audio format to the Playbar (likely DTS 5.1).
So, it gave me 5.1 sound from Dolby TrueHD discs, but not from DTS-HD discs. Until Sonos fixes the Playbar to decode DTS, the Monoprice 7974 is only half a solution.
Other notes: The 7974 seemed like a solid unit. The HDMI-CEC worked properly and switched between active inputs with no effort on my part. The ARC function worked properly and passed the Dolby 5.1 to the Playbar from my AppleTV and DirecTV receiver that were connectied directly to the TV. The LEDs on the front are a little bright. Might want to color them over with a marker or something.
Mr Woofer, quick question, I have an Apple TV and a Sony Bluray. How I accomplish the 5.1 is to get the tosh link and run optical cable from the ATV and the Bluray to the tosh link then to the playbar? What about the tv? Right now I have playbar optical right to tv. Thanks
Userlevel 2
Racin929, or anyone else. I just purchased an Oppo 103 and tried the suggestion above. I still cannot get 5.1 DD from the movie "Moon" which only has a DTS track. What are the other settings that I need? Thanks much.
--Orccro
Userlevel 2
Answerd at the dutch forum.
I was wondering if this would solve all the 5.1 Surround problems (DTS) for the Sonos Playbar:
The Hama HDMI Audio Splitter:
you find it on the Conrad site and it cost 69,99 euro.
Anyone got some experience with this product?
Iam curious about it..
The Hama HDMI Audio Splitter:
you find it on the Conrad site and it cost 69,99 euro.
Anyone got some experience with this product?
Iam curious about it..
Userlevel 2
Follow up to my earlier post. I just tested my setup with the Bourne identity using dts-hd and can confirm i am getting Dolby 5.1 into the playbar. I previously tested it and got the same with Dolby truehd. Setup is as follows: Samsung bd-f5900 with hdmi into a Samsung c630 TV. Optical cable fom the blu ray player to a $10 monoprice toslink switch from amazon into the playbar. Using playbar, sub, and 2 play1s for rear speakers. This is a $95 player at Walmart, a lot less expensive than the $500 oppo player discussed as another solution elsewhere in this forum. Hope this helps.
Userlevel 2
I got this setup and it seems to work with Dolby true hd conversion to Dolby 5.1. Playing ironman 1 with output from the player set to bitstream reencoded Dolby 5.1 on setting about my system it indicates i am getting Dolby 5.1. I have an hdmi running from the player to the tv and an optical cable running to the playbar. I don't have a dts disk to test but I will look for one. The manual indicates it will do dts as well. Will post when I try it.
Just fine to me... Right now it doesn't support "3D" but that is supposed to be added later via a software update...
Both the Xbox One and the PS4 seem equal performing as a BluRay player, expect that the Xbox One doesn't support any type of Dolby Digital at all right now.
MrWoofer,
So you are confirming that the Samsung BD-F5900 can convert the DTS track of a disc to Dolby Digital "on the fly" and output that DD 5.1 track over the optical out? If so that is indeed a great and relatively affordable solution.
If you setup the PS4 using optical cable directly to the Playbar, and then change the PS4 to use Optical Output and only select DD5.1. When you playing a movie that has DTS, you get a new sound option within the Blu Ray player "BITSTREAM(MIX)" and it will play the DTS movie in DD5.1 to the PlayBar. But again this only works when you use optical output directly to the Playbar. (I would assume it would work with an optical splitter as well?)
I also assume if Sony added the "BITSTREAM(MIX)" option for HDMI sound output, then you could use a TV that does Pass DD5.1.
Hopefully this helps anyone who was wondering what would happen when using the PS4 and/or Xbox One.
At least I can now play my DTS movies via the PS4, even if I have to just plug in the Playbar directly when I want to watch them in surround sound.
This is exactly the kind of clear information that is very helpful. Thanks!
Userlevel 2
Read the forums and other online sources on this issue. Looks like the Samsung bd-f5900 can output almost any codec as bitstream Dolby. It decodes the bd signal then reencoded it as Dolby digital (if you set it to). Might be a cheaper workaround than the $500 oppo player. It has an optical out that could go directly to the playbar. might just add a $7 optical switch to switch between optical directly from the tv to optical from the bd player when necessary. I just got this setup (without the switch yet).
Userlevel 2
How does the ps4 perform as a blu ray player?
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