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June 19, 2013

Recommendations on Optical Audio Switcher for Playbar?

  • June 19, 2013
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Someone recommended an automatic 2 input optical audio switcher in one of the original playbar threads. It was from monoprice and the link is dead, and a search on monoprice makes it look like it's discontinued with nothing else up in its place.

I'm buying a new TV soon but based on what research I've done, it's impossible to be certain any TV I buy will have proper 5.1 optical switching. 99% chance it will not have it in spite of what people casually report on the internet.

So, I'll need to buy an optical audio switcher. I need to route at least three inputs, ideally four to help future proof me. And it needs to support 5.1. It does me no good if it downgrades the signal to 2.x.

I'm also debating over whether I should just buy another A/V receiver. I sold my old A/V receiver with my old 5.1 speaker set when I bought my playbar. As ridiculous as it sounds (and actually is), my best bet may be to buy a cheap $100 to $200 A/V receiver and use that for all my audio routing to the Playbar.

Then when friends come over and marvel at the slim form factor and design of the Playbar, I can point out that they'll need a gigantic A/V receiver in order to get it working properly.

I would also consider an HDMI switcher that has the appropriate audio output that parses out the correct 5.1 audio signal.

Ideally, whatever I choose, it's automatic with a manual override. I like the idea that whichever of the 4 inputs are outputting a signal is the one that is live. With the ability to manually switch for diagnostic or special use circumstances.

If that Monoprice unit comes back, even though it's just a dual unit, maybe I can get away with running two of them, one into the other, to get the 3 inputs that I need.

Or maybe someone will report that Sonos has come out with an official list of TVs that support the Playbar's intended functionality that it was engineered around (re: sending 5.1 out of optical). I haven't been on the forums in a few months and a cursory skim through thread posts didn't reveal anything new, although it sounds like Sonos may release a DTS update through software based on some rumors I read on the forums so that's exciting.
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    Lyricist III
    June 19, 2013
    You may want to check this hdmi/optical switch. It has optical switching as well as being able to convert audio from HDMI to optical.

    The Octava HD41 ARC HDMI switch supports 4 HDMI sources and converts the connected HDMI source audio to Optical Audio output. Built in EDID Management is configured with 2Ch PCM, DD5.1 ensuring that the connected sources can output DD5.1 audio when available even if your HDTV does not supported it.

    Also included are 4 independent Optical inputs for those wishing to switching in only optical sources.
    DTSAuthor
    Avid Contributor I
    June 20, 2013
    I just ordered an optical splitter from Amazon.

    http://www.amazon.com/C2G-27027-Toslink-Digital-Splitter/dp/B0002344GG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371685972&sr=8-1&keywords=optical+audio+splitter

    From what it looks like, it allows you to take two optical inputs and have one output. The reviews are mixed between extremely happy 5-stars and extremely unhappy 1 stars because people bought them not understanding how they work.

    Essentially, it's just mixing the two signals together. So it only works if your devices don't output a signal when they are off. Most cable boxes do output a signal when off so they can't be used with this.

    However, if you have a PS3 and Xbox 360 like I do, then you should be able to run the optical cables from both into here, and come up with a single output. I have verified that neither the PS3 nor the Xbox will output a signal when off.

    This seems like a fantastic device because it requires no power, is cheap, and is small. It is essentially an "automatic switcher" because it only outputs whatever signal you run through it. Assuming you don't run both your PS3 and Xbox at the same time (which I never have), it won't be an issue.

    I still have a problem of another device to figure out how to work into my Playbar, but this will work to reduce the necessary optical switcher ports by one. So I have 3 devices but only need a 2-port optical switcher because one of those ports will be this splitter that is both XBox and PS3.

    I'm eyeballing the $80ish dollar Gefen splitter because they make really top quality products, but it doesn't have any IR remote option. In theory, I could just leave it set to my main TV device (a home theater PC) and when I want to play a video game I'll manually click the switch on the Gefen unit because I have to get up to pick up the controller or insert a blu ray into the PS3 to watch anyway. It feels pretty lame to need to do this because Sonos dropped the ball and invented a product with which there's no compatible TVs available. But such is life and the benefits of Sonos currently outweigh the need for this workaround by a slight margin.

    One idea I have is that the Gefen switch requires a 5V power source and I might be able to rig a USB power cable such that I can power the switch off my Home Theater PC and thus avoid needing to use another AC power slot for it.
    Trending Lyricist I
    June 20, 2013
    I have the one referred to by jbach in the post above and it works really well.

    I was also considering whether to keep my receiver to do all the switching but thought this rather defeated the object of de-cluttering my living room.

    The reason for purchasing this one over any other was that I have one HDMI lead routed to my TV though a partition wall and did not want to run three further cables and switch inputs on the TV.

    I think the solution works far better where the TV is left on the same input and you switch with the box. The TV remote is redundant and the Sky HD remote controls volume and channels. All I have to do is remember to turn the TV on before I sit down and I am sorted for the evening!

    I have four HDMI's and Four optical (Sky HD, Apple TV, Blu Ray, Popcorn Hour) cables running into the switch and one HDMI output to the TV and one Optical to the Playbar.

    It switches automatically with most sources and you can turn the illuminations off on the front panel. For sources that do not auto select it has a little remote.

    The downside.... It costs nearly £250 and to my mind is a little flimsy.
    Contributor I
    November 14, 2013
    Thanks for posting this. I just ordered the HD41 ARC HDMI switch because it's exactly what I need.

    I checked out some other products at the octavainc website which appear to be of really good quality.
    Contributor III
    November 14, 2013
    Depending on your budget, you might wanna look at Sony TVs; recently purchased one and it is passthrough (W900A). The way I thought was I was getting an extra $100 to invest in the TV because I wouldn't have to do it in a switch afterwards...
    Contributor I
    November 15, 2013
    i ordered this and it works perfectly -
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003L14WB8/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    i have two play 1 surrounds and the sub and it sounds amazing.
    Contributor III
    November 16, 2013
    I use this switch:

    http://www.shinybowusa.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=50_61&products_id=164

    Easy to find it for $225 on ebay

    Professional feel / look and excellent performance
    Contributor I
    May 10, 2014
    I just ordered an optical splitter from Amazon. From what it looks like, it allows you to take two optical inputs and have one output. The reviews are ......

    I completely agree with you and I am planning to buy this same device. However I have one concern. This is a cheap device and do you think that it might reduce the quality of the signal coming to it? I mean 2 signals come in, one come out. The device is not digital... I'm no engineer but wanted to ask if you know anything.
    Thanks...
    Avid Contributor III
    May 12, 2014
    +1 for the Octava HD41 ARC HDMI switch. Works like a charm with my Playbar setup.
    Lyricist III
    June 1, 2014
    I have a Monoprice switch w 4 hdmi in and one hdmi out/toslink out. It definitely does the trick for 1/3 the price and allow me to hear 5.1 sound. However every time I turn the TV off it power cycles and subsequently needs to be reset by hand before it will pass audio. Does this happen w the Octava?