No Airplay 2 for Playbar. GUTTED !!!!!

I'm still relatively new to Sonos but I bought my Playbar only a few months ago. I thought it was only a couple of years old - not 10 years old. Seriously? Playbar was out in 2008? Wow.

Yup it sucks, that the older units do not have the processor to support airplay2. I use apple by the way. But being able to get the ability on older units like the play 5 gen 1 or play 3 is a bonus. Yes it sucks that the recent purchase of the 5 year old playbar does not support it. You can up and leave sonos it you are not happy with their progression plan or their equipment. But they only future proof things so far. Over all Sonos has found ways to keep most of their equipment relevant with new tech. Not popular for someone that recently pay for something that is not on the upgradable list. But for them to stop selling product do to a pending replacement it just not realistic.

Just take android cell phones. Samsung for instance, you can have a super amount of buyers remorse. If you got a s8 last March, 6 months later a newer top of a line came out with more bells and whistles. The S8 was a 700 dollar item. And it did not have the ability of the Note 8. And just one year later, the s8 lacking even more ability of the S9. And for the Note8 buyer paying 800 dollars, the s9 has even more abilities the their Note8. So if you are a samsung buyer, you never know when you should get a new phone. They come out every 6 months. Buyers remorse really sucks.

So you are left with really 2 options realistically.

option 1, Need airplay2, you still can get airplay 2 with the option of a sonos one. You just might need one to get you whole sonos network to work with airplay 2. Yes it sucks that it means another 200 bucks.

option 2, leave sonos and sell off your equipment and get something else. Being just a couple of months old. You might be able to sell it for a ok price and recover some of the cost another put it toward another system. Then go research bose, panasonic, onkyo, yamaha, samsung, or any of the the other options out there and see which one might have all the features you want and will want. Not sure how many supports airplay 2 by the way. Since apple has not release it. And invest in the other system.

Just hope you got to enjoy your sonos during the time you have been using it. At least that way, it was not a total lost.

I kinda misunderstood your 10 year old equipment. If it is about what sonos product can couple that is 10 years old. MY 10 year old equipment? I'm totally confused to be honest. You mentioned this 10 year figure, not me. It's as though, in your desperation to defend Sonos, you're not actually reading what's being written.
Of course there's a point at which some things may not be able to be supported on some hardware - but you mentioned it's not reasonable to expect it on 10 year old equipment - when none of the equipment being mentioned is that - and the equipment specifically mentioned in the title of this thread is nowhere close to that.
You then mention trying to get new things to run on older hardware. It's a valid point to an extent but completely ignores the fact that that hardware isn't even sold any more and hasn't been for many, many years and has been superseded by 5+ iterations. You keep harping on about 'buyer beware' and things being superseded. This kit has not been superseded!!
What's being discussed here, and in other threads, is that it's not being supported on existing, still in the shops, still being promoted equipment! The main subject of the thread being a PlayBar - currently being at £700...

Yes, I have the Playbar so can well understand your anger.

TBH I'm becoming somewhat disillusioned with Sonos as there seems a definite bias towards Apple, whereas Android can go and fiddle. Perhaps it's because their 'home market' i.e. the U.S. is so Apple orientated so they assume the rest of the world is too.

Oh really?

This statistic shows the market share held by smartphone platforms/operating systems in the United States from January 2012 to January 2018. In June 2017, 53.3 percent of U.S. smartphone subscribers were using a Google Android device. Apple was the second most popular smartphone operating system with a 44.9 percent market share.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/266572/market-share-held-by-smartphone-platforms-in-the-united-states/

but playbar is still supported. Sonos is not planning to brick the playbar. But still selling order models are just a fact of business.

This is an excuse often used by tech companies and quite frankly is wearing thin, especially when it provides a new selling opportunity for the companies concerned.

Sonos has absolutely no history of not bringing new feature to all of its players, even those well over a decade old. After 13 years, there was an uproar over the fact they twilighted the CR100, and they only did that because they had to after keeping it limping alog the last 4-5 years. Why would they start now for newer products if there was not an actual technical reason for doing it?

[...] What's being discussed here, and in other threads, is that it's not being supported on existing, still in the shops, still being promoted equipment! The main subject of the thread being a PlayBar - currently being at £700...
With the release of iOS 11 and macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 apps (and therefore supposedly third-party Airplay2-enabled devices) MUST support 64-bit technology. Older units like the Playbar presumably are lacking the ability to fit this requirement.

https://developer.apple.com/news/

I kinda misunderstood your 10 year old equipment. If it is about what sonos product can couple that is 10 years old. MY 10 year old equipment? I'm totally confused to be honest. You mentioned this 10 year figure, not me. It's as though, in your desperation to defend Sonos, you're not actually reading what's being written.
Of course there's a point at which some things may not be able to be supported on some hardware - but you mentioned it's not reasonable to expect it on 10 year old equipment - when none of the equipment being mentioned is that - and the equipment specifically mentioned in the title of this thread is nowhere close to that.
You then mention trying to get new things to run on older hardware. It's a valid point to an extent but completely ignores the fact that that hardware isn't even sold any more and hasn't been for many, many years and has been superseded by 5+ iterations. You keep harping on about 'buyer beware' and things being superseded. This kit has not been superseded!!
What's being discussed here, and in other threads, is that it's not being supported on existing, still in the shops, still being promoted equipment! The main subject of the thread being a PlayBar - currently being at £700...

To me with the playbar, sound like a bad case of buyers remorse. Tech items get replace by better all the time, and you really can not expect that something design 6 or 7 years ago will support something that has not even been launch yet. While the playbar was release 5 years ago, it was developed min 6 years ago, but more like 7. You can hope though that the company will have a way to keep things relevant. This is especially true fo the connect amp mention in the OP first post.

I am not a fan of the playbar or playbase. I use my sonos for music only. I have toyed with the idea of adding a playbase to my upcoming 82 inch TV purchase. But I just can see going that route, am not a big HT user. 3.1 or 2.1 what I use with my 65 inch TV. I just can see getting a playbase that does not support HDMI and 7.1 for that kind of money. But at the same time, I just think that you really need to know what you are buying, accept that if you buy a older design, you should not be shock that it won't support a new tech that has not even been release yet.

Just don't believe in buyers remorse. Especially with tech items. They change all the time.

Yes, I have the Playbar so can well understand your anger.

TBH I'm becoming somewhat disillusioned with Sonos as there seems a definite bias towards Apple, whereas Android can go and fiddle. Perhaps it's because their 'home market' i.e. the U.S. is so Apple orientated so they assume the rest of the world is too.

Oh really?

This statistic shows the market share held by smartphone platforms/operating systems in the United States from January 2012 to January 2018. In June 2017, 53.3 percent of U.S. smartphone subscribers were using a Google Android device. Apple was the second most popular smartphone operating system with a 44.9 percent market share.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/266572/market-share-held-by-smartphone-platforms-in-the-united-states/

Good Stat

But don't forget to add that for android users you can stream youtube music to sonos already by adding chromcast if you have a play5 or connect, something the apple user can do at all right now.

Also android users will have google assistant on the sonos one, Siri won't be support on the sonos one. That is why a lot of iPhone users actually install the iOS google assistance app.

And lastly, Android is form google. So the USA is their home market as well. Both are US companies.

Okay seriously upset, I just bought a playbar and sub - 5 months ago - totally sucks beyond belief 😠. Okay SONOS - here's what you gotta do - like seriously think about this from a consumer perspective - If Id have known I was gonna not bea little bit future proof I wouldn't have invested the $2000 Canadian - I feel you need to offer some type of incentive like a trade-in or a massive rebate or something. Alternatively what is it that allows a new Sonos One that is in the group to be able to do AirPlay 2 - make that a standalone box (small - not a speaker) and sell that as an add-on upgrade to enable this feature in a non-crappy way to customers that have invested heavily in your gear. I love it, but I cant love it for $2000 every few years, I dont have that kinda money or loyalty.:@

hi,

maybe dumb question - I only use my playbar, sub and play:1 for home theatre sound - but what is airplay 2 and why is it a must have feature?