Move or roam as surround speakers


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Dear all, just a quick suggestion: wouldn’t it be possible to use roam or move speakers as surround spekers for 5.1 systems? Taht would give even greater flexibility and eliminate the need to find a plug in the right location. Usually, you don’t see a picture or a 5.1 program longer than the 10 hours of autonomy of those products, and the design would become cleaner without any wire!

 

Is there any technical questio that prevents this? Are you planning to solve it out at some point?

James L. 1 year ago

Hi @Fran1969, welcome to the community.

 

Move and Roam are not designed to be used as part of a home theater setup. They were designed to move, either indoors or outside the home - and away from where your home theater set-up is. You can of course group them to play in sync with other products in your system, including your home cinema setup, though they wouldn’t be used as dedicated rear speakers. I understand that the size and portability of Roam and Move would be ideal in a surround setup, and I’ll be happy to forward your feedback on to our product team for consideration :slight_smile:

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Hi there,

That’s not about if I like one or another, neither about defending a brand or another. The topic is about portable surround solution, so did I answer. Technically.

Good day!

I think the point is that for a meaningful comparison one would not use cordles speakers that are designed for the sole purpose of.being rear speakers in a single HT in fixed locations.

Sonos called them the Roam and Move for a reason. 

 

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Hi there,

That’s not about if I like one or another, neither about defending a brand or another. The topic is about portable surround solution, so did I answer. Technically.

Good day!

I was going to make the same point, Danny.   Sony have designed their speakers for one purpose.  Sonos has designed the Roam and the Move for various other purposes.  You can’t please all of the people all of the time.

@DiverFlo - if what you really want above all else is wireless and cordless rear speakers, you should definitely switch brands to Sony. 

Sony… Check 5 messages below for the references.


Cheers!

 

Worth noting that although those Sony speakers do appear to be wireless rear audio speakers (with atmos upfiring option)...that’s all that they are.  They can’t be used as portable speakers on their own via WiFi or bluetooth.  So yes, they are a good choice if all you want completely wireless (no power cord) rear audio.  If you need just portable bluetooth, there are a ton of options out there as well.  If you want something that is both a portable bluetooth and WiFi speaker, Move and Roam are good options.

Sony… Check 5 messages below for the references.


Cheers!

 

Then I guess you’ve found your Sonos replacement.  Time to kill the bunny.

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Sony… Check 5 messages below for the references.


Cheers!

What a complete waste of a product! Not being able to use a pair of CORDLESS!!! Roams as surrounds is ridiculous! Time for a change of brand for sure

 

So which other brand gives you the ability to use battery operated units as surround speakers?

What a complete waste of a product! Not being able to use a pair of CORDLESS!!! Roams as surrounds is ridiculous! Time for a change of brand for sure

I would buy two battery powered surrounds to work with my Arc

Here's my added vote for this. 

Please add surround support for Roam. As others have said, I had assumed it would be possible, why not? 

I was about to order another Roam for this purpose until I saw this post. Holding off for now. 

If you did this Sonos you would have a unique solution. Worth considering this. 

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Going late…
Sony has just done it with their new wireless with built-in battery and Atmos SA-RS5 surround speakers !

They work with their 5000 and 7000 series soundbars. They even use the sphere sound mapping of the innovative HT-A9 !

Please Sonos, make us proud to keep your system and be fast on providing for such a solution. Even without the Atmos up firing speaker but able to use the Roams/Moves would be enough…

Come on Sonos team, my new arc is asking for that, you can do it! ;)

It would be really a nice feature!

None. I wouldn’t be expecting a change in stance on that, surround speakers that may or may not be there, and randomly change position would make for a poor experience. 

Hi Sonos experts! Any news on that?

I also would really love this. 
i have a arc with the sub which I love and just ordered a roam. Mostly for the garden and upstairs.

i know that it doesn’t work as surrounds but I don’t want the ones because of the cables so being able to use two roams as surrounds, even though they probably don’t sound as nice as the one’s, will make me buy an extra roam in a heartbeat. 

We need this please!

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I was watching a movie the other night with my Sonos beam gen 2. Would love to add some surrounds but don’t have anywhere they could live permanently as I live in a small apartment and my couch backs up to our kitchen/dining area. Being able to put a couple Roams on either side of the kitchen table for when I’m watching movies would be the perfect solution - really wish Sonos would develop this feature. I’d buy another Roam the day it launched. Also eagerly awaiting a sub that’s smaller than the current one...

Hello Sonos,
Same, I wait to have this feature to buy two Roam SL to add them as surround in  my SONOS TV system.
(My 2 existing One will be better in an other place - ideally in front for a true 5.1 config ;) )

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Please count my vote for truly wireless rear surrounds in enabling Sonos Move and Roam for rear surround speakers.

 

We just bought an Arc, and are now interested in rear surrounds.  We don’t have the proper space nor power receptacle in place for dedicated and stationary rear surround speakers.  Plus we rather place the rears when needed, then return back to their proper place after the show is done.  Rather than leave in place, permanently. 

 

I would go out right now and buy two Roam speakers if i can use them as rear surrounds.

 

Enabling the Move and Roam for rear surround speakers just makes too much sense!!!!

 

 

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Definitely a vote from me as well. I had both indoor and outdoor needs for speakers which is why I decided to get the roams. Disappointing that the roams can be used the same as the Ones. Especially since the speakers definitely can play music together, so it’s proven that the speakers can perform dynamic sound

 

FYI, when Sonos speakers are grouped together, the audio is significantly buffered to make sure it’s able to play in sync.  This done via your WiFi network and/or Sonosnet, 2.4 Ghz.  When speakers are bonded together in a home theatre setup, 2.4 Ghz is not fast enough for the audio to play immediately and match the audio on the TV, so 5.0 Ghz in a closed setup just involving the bonded speakers is used.  There’s a significant difference.  

Great point. Then Sonos should make a speaker that is: 1) wireless and battery powered, and 2) can switch between TV mode (5Ghz) and audio streaming mode (2.4GHz).

 

Not sure what you mean by ‘switch’ here.  I believe the portable speakers already can do 5 or 2.4 GHz, as do all the current Sonos speakers.  Ones, for example, can be setup as stand alone speakers or configured to be surround sound, but it’s not a simple matter of flipping a switch, as it takes a couple minutes for a One to go from doing surround duty to a stand alone Sonos room, and vice versa.  And Trueplay tuning is lost in the process.

Really, if Sonos were to make a portable speaker like this, I think it would be a case where it’s set for surround duty, and can be switched to bluetooth mode (but not share the bluetooth).  I’m not against this, but I really don’t think it’s going to happen any time soon.

 

Definitely a vote from me as well. I had both indoor and outdoor needs for speakers which is why I decided to get the roams. Disappointing that the roams can be used the same as the Ones. Especially since the speakers definitely can play music together, so it’s proven that the speakers can perform dynamic sound

 

FYI, when Sonos speakers are grouped together, the audio is significantly buffered to make sure it’s able to play in sync.  This done via your WiFi network and/or Sonosnet, 2.4 Ghz.  When speakers are bonded together in a home theatre setup, 2.4 Ghz is not fast enough for the audio to play immediately and match the audio on the TV, so 5.0 Ghz in a closed setup just involving the bonded speakers is used.  There’s a significant difference.  

Great point. Then Sonos should make a speaker that is: 1) wireless and battery powered, and 2) can switch between TV mode (5Ghz) and audio streaming mode (2.4GHz).

I wouldn’t expect this to be an ‘easy’ thing to do, as in just a software change. I would expect there is electrical components that would be needed to be added to both devices, beyond the complex issues around programming how the Sonos system reacts to a device missing/out of power in a system. I’d suppose there would need to be a rewrite of the entire TruePlay system as well….and there are likely issues I’m not even aware of.

But @jgatie  is right, Sonos doesn’t discuss these decisions/changes in advance, we only find out when/if they’re released. 

Back to the business…

No news or update from Sonos?

 

Sonos never gives news or updates on things like this.

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Back to the business…

No news or update from Sonos?

@SoquelSkye . I am not sure in what sense we have crossed paths? Or is @SkyeDub also you? 

Just a coincidence in the names, or was I correct to suspect trolling in the first place? You didn't even join the forum until after my post.

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