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Hi there,

 

I am new to the forums and was hoping for some advice/guidance on the best way to set up my new beam gen 2.

 

I appreciate this question has probably been done to death here so apologies in advance if this has been answered elsewhere. I am asking again as a lot of the answers I have found appear to relate to previous generation sonos products which I believe only had optical in and did not have HDMI in and I haven’t found any guidance specifically relating to the beam gen 2.

 

The issue I am having is that the TV is old (from around 2014) and from testing and googling does not appear to passthrough DD 5.1 from external devices connected by HDMI (in my case a BT freeview box and PS4 used primarily for Plex rather than gaming). The sonos app does show DD 5.1 when using the built in netflix app which appears to confirm it is the HMDI passthrough on the TV, or lack thereof, that is the issue.

 

A lot of the previous discussions on this suggest using an HDMI switch in order for audio to bypass the tv and go directly to the sonos beam from the external devices however the switches suggested in the past appear to use optical out to the sonos rather than HDMI as I understand earlier sonos devices had optical in and not HMDI in.

I envisage my desired setup would want to look like this (although I could be wrong here):

BT box/PS4 → switch → TV

                           |

                           → beam gen2

with all connections as HDMI.

 

I guess I have a couple of questions in relation to this:

  1. Is there a more up to date switch that would passthrough DD 5.1 to beam gen2 via HDMI rather than optical?
  2. If 1 is an option then is there any advantage to using HMDI from the switch to beam gen2 over optical?
  3. The Samsung TV currently has the options to output in PCM or DTS Neo 2:5. When DTS Neo 2:5 is selected there does appear to be an improvement in sound quality to my ears (although I imagine this is largely subjective) and is much louder. When the DTS Neo option is selected the sonos app will always show output as ‘DTS Surround 5.1’ regardless of input - is there any advantage to be gained from what I am suggesting or is the quality of audio unlikely to be an enhancement beyond that achieved through the DTS Neo setting?

I understand that there is a product called HDfury Arcana which can be used where a TV does not have eARC however I am unlikely to ever play any material that has Dobly Atmos so ideally looking for a cheaper option plus the Arcana solution would also require a switch and i’d like to avoid too many additional boxes if at all possible.

 

My gut instinct is that there is unlikely to be any major improvement over the DTS Neo setting from the TV but the fact the sonos app does not show the output to be the same as the input from the source device is itching my brain a bit so thought I might as well ask the question.

 

Additional info: I do not currently have a 5.1 setup however was considering purchasing some sonos One’s to use as surrounds and the sonos sub but thought best to decide on the best way forward with regard to the beam before moving forward with any additional purchases.

 

Thanks for taking the time to read and all suggestions and advice are welcomed.

 

Thanks,

J

 

There is an eARC adapter/HDMI switch combo unit from FeinTech. It is not as widely used as the HDFury Arcana though:
https://feintech.eu/products/feintech-vax04101-hdmi-earc-pass-switch-4x1

 

I have a Sonos Arc and an old TV from 2013 and use the HDFury Arcana with a ROOFULL HDMI switch. I am very happy with this setup. The Arcana allows me to get Dolby Digital Plus/Dolby Atmos audio from all of my streaming devices and lossless multichannel PCM and Dolby TrueHD/Dolby Atmos from my Blu-ray discs. And I can easily hide the Arcana and switch behind my media console.

The Arcana option is a little expensive, but it is worth it if you want to take full advantage of the Beam’s audio capabilities. And if you eventually add the Ones and Sub, the investment in the Arcana will definitely be worth it IMO.


Hi GuitarSuperstar,

 

Thanks for taking the time to read my query and respond. It is very much appreciated and has certainly given me something to think about.

 

In hindsight I think you are probably correct regarding choosing an option that will offer Atmos as this may help with future proofing and give a better result when I am able to make additions to my setup.

 

Thanks for linking the feintech website, it has some very interesting products on there and appears to have a device similar to the Arcana:

https://feintech.eu/en/collections/non-office/products/vax01202-hdmi-earc-audio-extractor-splitter

 

I do also like the idea of the switch and splitter all in one option that you linked.

As I am based in the UK the feintech option possibly makes more sense and will probably work out cheaper but I haven’t had the time to fully investigate the differences so I will do a bit more reading before making a decision. However, this has given me plenty to go on for now and has been a great help.

 

Cheers,

J

 

 


Given the vintage Samsung you might be able to use an EDID Manager (between the source device and the TV) to force the TV to accept DD 5.1, I had to do that on my previous Samsung. Cheaper option than those listed (USD $40 I recall).


I recall I used an EDID manager to get 5.1 from my Mede8er to my 2011 Samsung too…..