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Contributor I
May 9, 2019
Answered

Airplay and sorround simultaneously no-no?

I just replaced my two Play:1s that I was using for sorround with my playbar, with two Ones Gen 2 because I missed. I tried different things, but I was only able to do either airplay as a group or sorround. Googling a bit told me that it’s either sorround or airplay. Can this really be true?
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    Airgetlam
    AirgetlamAnswer
    May 9, 2019
    When you 'bond' a speaker to a PLAYBAR, the PLAYBAR then becomes the "control" device and as such your AirPlay 2 would be disabled. You're better off reconnecting your two PLAY:1s to be used as surround speakers, and use the Sonos One gen 2 speakers elsewhere, where they can be used for AirPlay 2, and then you can "group" the PLAYBAR's room with them as well, if desired.
    Bruce

    33 replies

    Senior Virtuoso
    September 30, 2019
    For completeness on this, it should also be emphasised that if the Ones are Grouped, they cannot also simultaneously be rear Surround effects speakers. It is, unfortunately an either/or option. You must go through the process of ungrouping and bonding and vice versa each time you want the other functionality.
    Lyricist II
    October 26, 2019

    I plan to connect an LP player to a Sonos audio device like the new Port, allowing music to stream into a pair of Play: 1 presently bonded to a Beam as surround speakers. Will adding a Port to the mix allow two surround speakers to be both bonded to a Beam AND grouped for full stereo music? And also, is a Port device Airplay2 detectable ? Thanks very much.

    Airgetlam
    October 26, 2019

    No. They can be surround speakers or a stereo pair of speakers at one time. You can, however, have them play as a full set of stereo speakers by adjusting them in the extended settings for the room by turning them to “full” rather than ambient, and you can adjust the volume when playing music in the  same area, in case you want them to be much louder than you want the Beam to be.

    The Port is indeed an AirPlay 2 receiver, so it would show up in your Apple device.

    Bruce
    Lyricist II
    October 27, 2019

    Thanks you. 

    Contributor I
    December 1, 2019

    This is quite disappointing 😞.  We really should be able to continue using AirPlay when speakers are “bonded” to the PlayBar vs grouped.  Without AirPlay to my Sonos One, my living room speakers are essentially “dumb” tv speakers that are useless when the tv is off.  I understand that I can still use the Sonos app, but AirPlay makes interacting with the speakers so much more seamless and fluid (volume controls on my iPhone always immediately affect volume in the room and browsing music in the native apps vs the Sonos app is a much better experience). Just bought a PlayBar during the sale and am highly considering returning it if I can’t achieve true surround sound while watching movies and still easily use AirPlay for music.

    Trending Lyricist I
    December 1, 2019

    This is quite disappointing 😞.  We really should be able to continue using AirPlay when speakers are “bonded” to the PlayBar vs grouped.  Without AirPlay to my Sonos One, my living room speakers are essentially “dumb” tv speakers that are useless when the tv is off.  I understand that I can still use the Sonos app, but AirPlay makes interacting with the speakers so much more seamless and fluid (volume controls on my iPhone always immediately affect volume in the room and browsing music in the native apps vs the Sonos app is a much better experience). Just bought a PlayBar during the sale and am highly considering returning it if I can’t achieve true surround sound while watching movies and still easily use AirPlay for music.

     

    I completely agree with you.  How can Beam do it, but the higher end Playbar can not.  Sonos has its priorities mixed up.  Highest dollar tech should be updated first and then trickle down.  I bought the Playbar last week, but will probably be returning and use a Beam until the Playbar gets updated. 

    Also - trying a Sennheiser Ambeo, but it does not currently have Airplay either.

    Airgetlam
    December 1, 2019

    Because the PLAYBAR  was spec’d and designed 10 years before Airplay 2 was even considered by Apple, and consequently doesn’t have the CPU power or memory to handle the signal, whereas the Beam, being a much more recent product, can?

    Bruce
    Trending Lyricist I
    December 2, 2019

    We all know that, but Sonos should have updated the Playbar before the Beam.  Only makes common sense.   High end should have the latest and greatest!

    Stanley_4
    Grand Maestro
    December 2, 2019


    Common sense need not apply, Sonos builds what their research says will sell best.

    Trending Lyricist I
    December 2, 2019

    Guess they are the only mfg that puts better tech in their lower end models then.  Stupid.  You never see Apple, Samsung or other top tech companies do that and they sell plenty of high end, expensive devices.  There is a reason Apple is one of the richest, if not the richest companies in the world.  Newest tech goes in their most expensive devices first!

    Maybe Sonos could learn from them.  People that don’t understand that and keep backing Sonos have no clue.