Setting Sonos speaker as the default speaker


Does anyone know if a future update will allow a Sonos speaker to be set as the default speaker for a google home room? Its so frustrating this option is not available on release!

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Add each account from the relevant family member's device  

https://support.sonos.com/s/article/3624?language=en_US

I had tried adding a second account using my device without success - it errors out when clicking the button and says service already added. Maybe I'll try it from a different mobile device and see if I get a different result.

@tatnai . Could you confirm what you mean by 'Sonos accepts only one Spotify profile' please? Multiple Spotify accounts can be added to a Sonos system, so I assume you mean something else?

I was patiently waiting for this feature for a long time. I have multiple sonos speakers, but I also have a couple google chromecast audios that I was using as a work-around. You could connect the google chromecast audio to the line in of say a Play 5, and then the chromecast audio could be set as default speaker for any google home device.

 

The problem I have found is that when a sonos speaker is set as default speaker, it does not work the same as when a chromecast audio is set as default speaker. Here are the differences:

  1. Chromecast audio will play music, podcasts, news automatically when asking that from the google home. Sonos connected as default speaker only played music. For instance, in the morning I use the “play up first” command to get NPRs UP First podcast up. Chromecast audio as default, no problem it automatically plays via that. With sonos speaker as default, it plays through the google home instead. Frustrating.
  2. With sonos speaker set as default, my daughter cannot request music to be played with our default music service spotify. We have a spotify family plan, and each family member has their own account and has voice recognition set up through google home. When my daughter tries to play music on any google home with a sonos speaker set as default, it gives an error that it does not match the sonos spotify account and does not play. I suspect the google home is matching my daughter’s voice and sending spotify account specifics to sonos trying to get sonos to play from her account, but sonos only accepts one spotify profile, so…

For both these reasons I have stopped using this integration. Quite frankly I think I was way too excited and expected too much. Maybe they will fix the above, but I don’t know, after waiting this long I can’t bring myself to keep checking back.

Thx. Yes that's what I am trying to do, The work around I have found for when we entertain guests is to use the Apple Music player on my desk top, which with air play 2 permits me to play music on the TV sound system (not Sonos) as well as on my Sonos speakers similtaniously, so I have pretty much achieved what I wanted to do in a round about way. The only issue I have to resolve is the Spotify Ap on my desk top does not use airplay 2 so it will only let me use 1 speaker group at a time. Until I fix that, we will need to play music from our music data base if we want to play in multiple room. The Spotify music, even for the same song is better than our old data base but sound quality is not really that important in a party atmosphere.

In Spotify going via their “device connect” feature in the now playing screen area, you can group Sonos speakers from the ellipsis menu option… see attached screenshot.

It’s not brilliant, as it really just opens and links-back to the Sonos App, but it does work for playing the Spotify App audio to more than one Sonos room.

Thx. Yes that's what I am trying to do, The work around I have found for when we entertain guests is to use the Apple Music player on my desk top, which with air play 2 permits me to play music on the TV sound system (not Sonos) as well as on my Sonos speakers similtaniously, so I have pretty much achieved what I wanted to do in a round about way. The only issue I have to resolve is the Spotify Ap on my desk top does not use airplay 2 so it will only let me use 1 speaker group at a time. Until I fix that, we will need to play music from our music data base if we want to play in multiple room. The Spotify music, even for the same song is better than our old data base but sound quality is not really that important in a party atmosphere.

I can set my Sonos 1 SL’s to be the default speakers of any of the GH minis I have without a problem. I can select the Sonos 1 SL to play on its own. What I want to do is add the Sonos 1 SL to the Whole House Group so that all the speakers in the house will play the same music at the same time. Currently only the minis are in that group and I can’t add the Sonos. I have been told there is a way. 

You can just group the Sonos speakers in the Sonos App beforehand and then ask Google to play music. The Sonos One SL will stay grouped and all will play, but note it’s not (currently) possible to play the same audio stream to both your Google & Sonos devices at the same time, if that’s what you were looking to achieve.

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There might be some IFTTT fudge up.

I can’t see sonos or google pushing for this last step, as it takes away sonos ecosystem if other makes of speaker can group whole house, and google are probably pissed about the court case sonos is bringing.

I can set my Sonos 1 SL’s to be the default speakers of any of the GH minis I have without a problem. I can select the Sonos 1 SL to play on its own. What I want to do is add the Sonos 1 SL to the Whole House Group so that all the speakers in the house will play the same music at the same time. Currently only the minis are in that group and I can’t add the Sonos. I have been told there is a way. 

Yes i think you might be right Ken, i was so excited to see it work the last thing you want to do is give up and close the thing. As you say getting it to stick was the problem.

When did this change happen? i saw someone mention it in a facebook sonos group and thought i would try it.

 

I dunno when it changed Paul, I just read your post here and tried it and it worked after playing around trying to get the settings to 'stick' ..

I’ve seen the ‘refresh issue' before with the Google Apps. Often closing/reopening the Apps after changing some settings seems to work whenever they appear to not show the changes made. 

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Yes i think you might be right Ken, i was so excited to see it work the last thing you want to do is give up and close the thing. As you say getting it to stick was the problem.

When did this change happen? i saw someone mention it in a facebook sonos group and thought i would try it.

 

It now works for me in UK.

Using google home to edit the google device settings i can set default speaker to a sonos target. It was a bit glitchy, i had to attempt about 5 times, but eventually the change stuck and worked.

Now when i ask to play music, it says ok playing on kitchen sonos, and it does…...magic

Well done sonos and google :sunglasses::sunglasses::sunglasses:

It is temperamental getting the default speaker to 'stick'. It might possibly be a screen refresh issue. I found that if I set the Sonos device as default speaker in my  iOS Google Assistant, or Home App ..and immediately “fully” closed the App (slide off screen), then it would stick and on re-opening the App, it remains in place.

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It now works for me in UK.

Using google home to edit the google device settings i can set default speaker to a sonos target. It was a bit glitchy, i had to attempt about 5 times, but eventually the change stuck and worked.

Now when i ask to play music, it says ok playing on kitchen sonos, and it does…...magic

Well done sonos and google :sunglasses::sunglasses::sunglasses:

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I’ve just set my son’s Symfonisk bookshelf as default speaker for his Google Home Mini, but have not seen any announcements by Sonos or Google about this. I was alerted to this by someone on the Dutch language forum: https://nl.community.sonos.com/google-assistent-en-sonos-229111/symfonisk-speakergroep-aanmaken-met-de-google-home-6769570#post16115870

 

Being able to set a Sionos speaker as a default for a Google Assistant device is a new feature. Just set it up myself.

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I’ve just set my son’s Symfonisk bookshelf as default speaker for his Google Home Mini, but have not seen any announcements by Sonos or Google about this. I was alerted to this by someone on the Dutch language forum: https://nl.community.sonos.com/google-assistent-en-sonos-229111/symfonisk-speakergroep-aanmaken-met-de-google-home-6769570#post16115870

I have a sonos beam with GA, and a google hub in the same room. I can"t set my beam as the default speaker for music in google home. So when I ask to play radio or sonos the hub starts playing, instead of the sonos hub. 

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Hi all,

I’ve found what confused me:

I have a pair of Sonos One now and linked them to the Google Assistant (BTW, the results from Sonos are really bad! My Google home listens a lot better!)…

In the Google home app I have no option to set any Sonos as default speaker for my Google Home devices..

In the Sonos app (services - Voice service) - I can select a default speaker for the assistant in the Sonos One. That can be any Sonos speaker arround the house (even without a mic).

For now I put my Google home mini on the desk besides the Sonos Ones and tell it to play XXXXX on “Sonos Kantoor” (Sonos Office). Meanwhile I’ve disabled the Google Assistant on Sonos, because of the bad results. 

I understand that but I want my Sonos speakers to be the default sound source which echo can do but Google will not at this time with sonos. I am not the only one using the system and other users forget to ask google to play through sonos

 

Agreed. I’ve gotten into the habit of using Alexa for music, smart home control, and some basics.  For questions about weather, or general knowledge, I go with Google.  I suppose I should have stated that first.

I understand that but I want my Sonos speakers to be the default sound source which echo can do but Google will not at this time with sonos. I am not the only one using the system and other users forget to ask google to play through sonos

I hope the proper integration  happens soon, Alex's may be the way to go though but Google has a better search and Google photos which are what I mainly use my device for at the moment in the kitchen at least

 

You can actually do both  The Sonos devices that have mics built in must be set to one or the other for each speaker, but you can setup control for both.  For example, you could have an Echo Dot and Google Mini right next to each other both able to control your Sonos  speakers.

I hope the proper integration  happens soon, Alex's may be the way to go though but Google has a better search and Google photos which are what I mainly use my device for at the moment in the kitchen at least

 

 

 

All my Sonos speakers appears in that list. Have you tried scanning for your speaker in the GA app.

 


You are mistaken. Sonos speakers do not currently appear in that list.

 

I think you're both right..

I found out that some people can set Sonos as default and some can't.  It looks like you can only set your Sonos Speakers as default if you have at least 1 assitant enabled speaker in your setup..

 

I, for example, can't set them as defaults, because I only have a playbar and 2 Play:1's.  I've ordered a pair of Ones during black friday, so i'll update this thread somewhere next week with my own experience. 

I’m not sure this is right. I have a GA enabled Sonos Play One but my Google Nest Hub won’t allow me to set it as the default speaker for music. It only allows me to set Bluetooth enabled speakers...

I only have a single Sonos One with GA enabled. I can't set it as a default speaker for my Google Home devices. If you can do this, please post a screenshot.

 

 

 

All my Sonos speakers appears in that list. Have you tried scanning for your speaker in the GA app.

 


You are mistaken. Sonos speakers do not currently appear in that list.

 

I think you're both right..

I found out that some people can set Sonos as default and some can't.  It looks like you can only set your Sonos Speakers as default if you have at least 1 assitant enabled speaker in your setup..

 

I, for example, can't set them as defaults, because I only have a playbar and 2 Play:1's.  I've ordered a pair of Ones during black friday, so i'll update this thread somewhere next week with my own experience. 

I’m not sure this is right. I have a GA enabled Sonos Play One but my Google Nest Hub won’t allow me to set it as the default speaker for music. It only allows me to set Bluetooth enabled speakers...

I only have a single Sonos One with GA enabled. I can't set it as a default speaker for my Google Home devices. If you can do this, please post a screenshot.

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All my Sonos speakers appears in that list. Have you tried scanning for your speaker in the GA app.

 


You are mistaken. Sonos speakers do not currently appear in that list.

 

I think you're both right..

I found out that some people can set Sonos as default and some can't.  It looks like you can only set your Sonos Speakers as default if you have at least 1 assitant enabled speaker in your setup..

 

I, for example, can't set them as defaults, because I only have a playbar and 2 Play:1's.  I've ordered a pair of Ones during black friday, so i'll update this thread somewhere next week with my own experience. 

I’m not sure this is right. I have a GA enabled Sonos Play One but my Google Nest Hub won’t allow me to set it as the default speaker for music. It only allows me to set Bluetooth enabled speakers...