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No more sonos iphone updates please

  • December 15, 2022
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Sonos, please don't push updates anymore that only serve iphones. I don't know if you are aware but iPhones are an inferior product with less market share than android. We do not need to be wasting our time updating our speakers with an update that only pertains to a lesser platform. 

 

Thank you.

 

Ps - instead, give us updates that actually improve the product instead of catering to a lesser tech savvy group. Such as advanced eq controls, advanced sub crossover frequencies, more options for night and/or voice clarity and sub volumes based on source ie tv vs music.

Best answer by buzz

What is the source of your data?

The most relevant data source would be SONOS owners. What fractions use iOS and Android? While it’s certainly not a scientifically valid sample, when I encounter SONOS owners almost all of them use iOS. I prefer the Windows client, but I’m a minority.

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Airgetlam
  • December 15, 2022

Less market share? Where are you getting this information? 
 

The first link I found when googling (https://www.statista.com/statistics/620805/smartphone-sales-market-share-in-the-us-by-vendor/) suggests Apple leads with 48%, followed by Samsung (android product) at 30%.

I’m also confused as to your claim that Apple is an inferior product. Different, yes, but I’m not sure one or the other is superior, just different. 
 

You’re certainly entitled to request other features, but it feels like your message is obfuscated by assertions that don’t seem to be borne out. 


Airgetlam
  • December 15, 2022

And frankly, the only difference between the Apple iOS controller and the Android controller is the TruePlay system.  Other than that, both S1 and S2 versions are the same across both platforms. I wouldn’t be surprised if both versions are compiled from the same codebase. The only times I’m aware of an update to one, and not the other is in order to fix an introduced bug that only affects one platform. 


106rallye
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  • December 15, 2022

Furthermore, the Sonos app is just a remote to the system, which means there are no “updates (...) that only serve iphones”. There are system updates that trigger app updates, for Android and iOS alike.


Airgetlam
  • December 15, 2022

Meh… I’d argue that there are some random updates for each individual controller type (per OS) as bugs creep in for random display issues, etc. But certainly not functional changes for Sonos system level stuff.

The only difference, as I’ve stated before, is TruePlay. Beyond that, as near as I can tell, they’re exactly the same thing.


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  • December 16, 2022

Well here are the real statistics but the issue is, the recent lengthy update to just add compatibility for new iPhones. I get that there are people addicted to these proprietary devices but updates that are strictly for said devices are short sighted and skirt the real issue of required flexibility that android provides but the app (and apple devices) sadly don't provide.

 

"As per May 2022 statistics, Android accounts for 43.23% of the overall market share. Second in the list is Windows with 29.2% of the market share, whereas iOS covers 17.67%, OS X (macOS) covers 5.79% and Linux covers around 0.95% of the market."


buzz
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  • December 16, 2022

What is the source of your data?

The most relevant data source would be SONOS owners. What fractions use iOS and Android? While it’s certainly not a scientifically valid sample, when I encounter SONOS owners almost all of them use iOS. I prefer the Windows client, but I’m a minority.


106rallye
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  • December 16, 2022

I think @Bobstone problem is with system updates, not app updates. @Bobstone could you elaborate on what the “the recent lengthy update to just add compatibility for new iPhones” was and how you know that was the only purpose for this update - and that that was what made the update lengthy? And more importantly, do you really propose that Sonos should use different system versions on the speakers (because that is where the updates go) for Android an iOS users? What about households that mix OS’s? And for what purpose? To make some people skip a lengthy update now and then?

I have scheduled my updates to run at night, so I’m (almost) never bothered by them. Do you have another setting?


controlav
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  • December 16, 2022

Are you suggesting Sonos delete the Android-only feature of local file playback, to make the two platforms closer in features? I’d be for that...


Ken_Griffiths

I think @Bobstone problem is with system updates, not app updates. @Bobstone could you elaborate on what the “the recent lengthy update to just add compatibility for new iPhones” was and how you know that was the only purpose for this update - and that that was what made the update lengthy? And more importantly, do you really propose that Sonos should use different system versions on the speakers (because that is where the updates go) for Android an iOS users? What about households that mix OS’s? And for what purpose? To make some people skip a lengthy update now and then?

I have scheduled my updates to run at night, so I’m (almost) never bothered by them. Do you have another setting?

Yes I agree, it takes less than 30 seconds to do an App update - it’s the firmware install which takes the time and that is somewhat irrelevant to the controller device. Most of the delay is the reboot, IP address assignment and multicast rediscovery of the devices …and that remains the situation regardless of what controller device is in use.


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  • December 16, 2022

The recent update is stated to have added support for newer iPhones. I understand people use and like them and to each their own. But a firmware update just for that is rather frustrating. 

We should be getting updates for the tech savvy... Updates that allow greater eq flexibility, having separate subwoofer volumes for music and TV, being able to pair 2 more speakers for the front in a tv 5.1 setup, control of rear speaker delay, etc etc. I would assume most of us, especially android users, are not the "set it and forget it" type.


Airgetlam
  • December 17, 2022

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  • December 17, 2022

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Congratulations 


106rallye
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  • December 18, 2022

But why not set the updates to take place at night? You won’t notice them……