I have the sonos app downloaded on two iPhones and an iPad. Out of the blue one of the iPhones says it does not recognize an existing Sonos system, but the other iPhone and iPad work fine. Try to connect the iPhone and I can’t find anything, wants me to reset my router. this is absolutely stupid, because it worked literally two hours ago. What could go wrong? What kind of a glitch in the software creates this glitch, how ridiculous!!
Not being able to contact the Sonos speakers is usually an issue with the network. What can you tell us about your network? Are you running any network extenders, or perhaps a mesh network? Is the WiFi on this iPhone connected/on?
Bruce,
I think you’re missing the point, the system is playing fine on 1 iPhone and the iPad. However, the other iPhone, which we use the most on normal days to control Sonos, is saying it doesn’t recognize a system near it. Keep in mind, the iPhone was used earlier today to play the system.
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Nothing you’ve said changes the fact that the phone may now be connected to an alternate WiFi access point, or even than the WiFi got turned off, for any reason, on that iPhone.
Given the information, I stand by my response. There is no reason why, given a correct download, proven by the apps use earlier, that it would not connect to the Sonos speakers now, except potentially in the circumstances I asked about. The fact that your Sonos continues to work from the other two devices means it’s not a Sonos per se, other than the one device can’t reach across the network to find the Sonos.
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If the problem phone has a VPN on it that also could be an issue.
Although if it worked earlier….
I’ve resolved the same issue with my iPhone via iPhone settings >Sonos App> toggle ‘local network’ to on.
No idea why it was off.
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Did you check any of the solutions mentioned above?
This is driving me insane. My wife and I each have an iphone. Neither iphone will reliably find the existing Sonos speakers (two Era 300s). An ipad will, and Android phones do, but not the iPhones.
Yes, they’re on the same network and no, there’s no active VPN. I have tried toggling all the network related settings mentioned here, and in various other, similar, threads. Nothing.
When started, the Sonos app just defaults to the profile page, but with all the system-related UI elements grayed out.
Any other solutions?
This is driving me insane. My wife and I each have an iphone. Neither iphone will reliably find the existing Sonos speakers (two Era 300s). An ipad will, and Android phones do, but not the iPhones.
Yes, they’re on the same network and no, there’s no active VPN. I have tried toggling all the network related settings mentioned here, and in various other, similar, threads. Nothing.
When started, the Sonos app just defaults to the profile page, but with all the system-related UI elements grayed out.
Any other solutions?
Are they iPhone models that perhaps have an older iOS version that’s only partially supported by Sonos? See this support link for supported controllers/operating systems…
https://support.sonos.com/en-us/article/sonos-app-requirements
This is driving me insane. My wife and I each have an iphone. Neither iphone will reliably find the existing Sonos speakers (two Era 300s). An ipad will, and Android phones do, but not the iPhones.
Yes, they’re on the same network and no, there’s no active VPN. I have tried toggling all the network related settings mentioned here, and in various other, similar, threads. Nothing.
When started, the Sonos app just defaults to the profile page, but with all the system-related UI elements grayed out.
Any other solutions?
Are they iPhone models that perhaps have an older iOS version that’s only partially supported by Sonos? See this support link for supported controllers/operating systems…
https://support.sonos.com/en-us/article/sonos-app-requirements
No, they are a 14 Pro and a 15 Pro Max, all fully updated with the latest iOS. And it’s specifically the iphones. Laptops can reach the speakers via Bluetooth, and two different Android phones (on v14) with the Sonos app work just fine.
I’ll go back to my post from 3 months ago…is this a mesh network? Is there a possibility that the phones are connected to a different subnet than the Sonos speakers?
It is a mesh network, with Google (Google Fiber) hardware. I’m aware of reported difficulties with mesh networks but I’m unaware of why exactly they would pose a problem. It’s not as if the tech is new.
There is only one network, with no VLANs or any such. All the devices in the house are on the same subnet (192.168.1.0/24). And again, it’s the iPhones. I also have a Pixel 8 Pro and a Nothing Phone 2 (don’t ask; it’s a lot of phones) and both of them work perfectly, mesh or no. The iPhones will not find anything on the local network but the Pixel finds the speakers immediately without error.
Given that the iPhones are our primary devices, I’m not inclined to keep the speakers around if they won’t work with our hardware--and I’m not going to make elaborate changes to the network in order to backstop some oddball failure on Sonos’s part.
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Did the iPhones connect and show Sonos previously or have they never done so?
The iPhones have never connected. I set up the Sonos speakers with an Android, which is what I happened to have next to me when I did the setup. My wife used an iPad to drive the speakers. It was only after setup that we discovered the iPhones categorically would not work. Given that the other devices work fine, it seems like there is a specific issue with Sonos and some aspect of iOS. If the mesh network were the problem, then I would imagine the other devices would not work either.
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You probably won’t like this answer but here it is….Yours essentially is an iPhone issue and not a Sonos issue. The operating systems for iPhone and IPad share the same basic codes. However since each device has exclusive features there are some differences. The link below is an independent source that can further explain:
https://www.esper.io/blog/what-is-ipados-and-how-is-it-different-than-ios
Here’s another possibility… you may have a corrupt iOS on both iPhones. That can occur in two ways:
1. The download was interrupted
2. The OS transfer from a previous iPhone had issues and are now manifested in your current iPhones.
The issues pyramid if each subsequent iPhone was setup using an iCloud transfer of a previous OS. Doing so maybe the easiest way to setup a new iPhone but can also bring over problems that embed themselves in the new iPhone
Typically the only way to resolve the issues is to erase the iPhone and download a fresh OS. Yes…it is painful because you literally have to setup your iPhone from ground zero. As long as you backup your photos to iCloud they will still be available when you sign in with your AppleID. Apps back upped to iCloud will still be available as well.
I know you are skeptical as you don’t want to believe it could occur on both phones. The only other explanation is that you have a setting on both phones that you have not mentioned; or are unaware of assuming someone else setup your phones.
BTW…click the link on how to restore an iPhone:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/118107
Below is how Sonos should appear in settings:
I’m reasonably well acquainted with the histories of Apple’s OSes, as I was a NeXT and FreeBSD user even before Apple bough NeXTStep. Seen the whole thing unfold from zero :-)
Corruption of the OS in case 1 would be nearly impossible, since there are multiple stages of checksum verification in the update process.
For case 2, I suppose there could be issues there, but one of the two iPhones WAS set up as new. I usually do that with new hardware. So I don’t *think* there’s anything there.
I have made some progress though. Turning off Cellular Data allows the Sonos speakers to be found. I can toggle it back on, and the speakers continue to be visible. However if the phone is subsequently rebooted, it loses the Sonos speakers, and the Cellular Data must be toggled again.
Cellular data is active on the Android phones and never caused a problem, and I’m puzzled as to why it would for iPhones. I could understand if the phone were in an iffy wifi environment, as the phone would be switching between wifi and cellular data to maximize throughput. However, this happens literally feet from an access point that connects to a 5Gb fiber line. There is no way cellular data could be in contention for wifi in terms of quality.
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I’m reasonably well acquainted with the histories of Apple’s OSes, as I was a NeXT and FreeBSD user even before Apple bough NeXTStep. Seen the whole thing unfold from zero :-)
Corruption of the OS in case 1 would be nearly impossible, since there are multiple stages of checksum verification in the update process.
For case 2, I suppose there could be issues there, but one of the two iPhones WAS set up as new. I usually do that with new hardware. So I don’t *think* there’s anything there.
I have made some progress though. Turning off Cellular Data allows the Sonos speakers to be found. I can toggle it back on, and the speakers continue to be visible. However if the phone is subsequently rebooted, it loses the Sonos speakers, and the Cellular Data must be toggled again.
Cellular data is active on the Android phones and never caused a problem, and I’m puzzled as to why it would for iPhones. I could understand if the phone were in an iffy wifi environment, as the phone would be switching between wifi and cellular data to maximize throughput. However, this happens literally feet from an access point that connects to a 5Gb fiber line. There is no way cellular data could be in contention for wifi in terms of quality.
I meant to state that Cellular data being on is a personal option 😊
I have an iPhone 15 Pro Max with no such issues. I also have an Asus Ai Mesh consisting of three (3) Asus ZenWiFi Pro ET12’s with Ethernet Backhaul. I’m running 32 Sonos units in addition to other devices all on WiFi. As you mentioned “access point” that leads me back to your network. I recommend a reset of the iPhone network settings to see if that helps. Also have you checked available internal storage?
JMG - I have a new 15 Pro, Sonos working on 2 macs and 12 pro. Sonos set up on 15 pro failed multiple times. Your tip on turning off cell service - it now is fully functioning ..until TY!!
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Thank you to “Just this once” above - this immediately worked for me! It was driving me nuts because my husband could access Sonos on his android but I could not on my iPhone.
I’ve resolved the same issue with my iPhone via iPhone settings >Sonos App> toggle ‘local network’ to on.
No idea why it was off.
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