I suspect It was a regulatory change initiated by Sony, Warner and other money grabbing corporates so RAdio.net and Tune in can no longer play overseas channels.  It is not something Sonos has control over anyway. :(

Further evidence of the Sh**ification and commercialisation of the web.

This has been a HUGE disappointment for me.  I’ve lost 85% of my favorite stations and now I can only listen to platforms that have advertising.  I wish I could subscribe to radio.net’s service and get it on my Sonos but it doesn’t look like that’s possible.  

For me, Sonos was a way to listen to music around my house but with this and the ever ending changes to the streaming services, I am getting close to pulling the plug on Sonos altogether.  

So, radio.net is removed at the request of radio.net, and you are here threatening to dump Sonos?  Not a very effective method of pressuring the party responsible to change their mind.

Brexiteers will deny it, but this is possibly an unintended consequence of the UK leaving the EU.   Prior to Brexit, the UK was subject to EU wide broadcasting directives where companies could not discriminate on geopolitical grounds, or financial grounds, against member states. 

Hence, it was legal and possible for UK Amazon Prime content to be accessible in other EU states.  That went down the toilet with Brexit.

  I suspect similar outcomes, along with the usual copyright and royalty legal bickering, has reduced UK reception to a shadow of its former state. 

I think MyTuner is now also blocking UK a listeners from accessing non U.K. stations - what a disaster ! Can’t get Irish stations or search by location anymore. 

Thats what I tried doing but unfortunately a lot of radio.net stations are not available on mytuner. 

I suggest that you use “my tuner radio station” which is still supported by Sonos.  Delete all the radio.net stations and get them through “my tuner”

I believe there was a successful lawsuit against TuneIn but I see they have now updated their app and introduced a subscription.

And a lot of these issues have to do with copyrights, and the ‘authorization’ to distribute the content across international borders.
I spent a couple of years chasing lawyers and playback rights for various songs that we had planned to put in a game, but hadn’t written or owned the music. Talk about a nightmare. The rights were all over the place, especially depending on the age of the songs. And, you tend to forget the easy ones, just because you spend so much time on the hard ones.

The world is changing. Authorization to play various pieces of music (and other content!) in different countries has by no way kept pace with the technology. Frankly, I’m surprised many of these congregation companies like TuneIn and radio.net haven’t been sued by rights holders before this. 

Well then UK listeners have been stuffed - by a UK court.

This is beyond frustrating for someone who has relied on about 30 saved classical music radio stations. Heads should roll, but I don’t know whose. However, there is a work around. If you have the radio.net app on your phone or iPad (requires a minimal annual subscription) you can airplay saved radio stations direct to your Sonos speaker instead of going via the Sonos app. Btw, the Sonos Radio app is totally useless for anyone with a serious knowledge of classical music.

Don't notice any significant issues with TuneIn in my part of the EU! (Apart from national broadcasters such as BBC, NRK, Radio France, etc. who've left Tunein overall). 

We seem to have gone backwards. I enjoyed “surfing the net” on Sonos and checking-out stuff from around the globe.

As this was UK court ruling i wonder what TuneIn can stream to Europe.

The radio issue has become really convoluted recently where stations have appeared and disappeared from various aggregators.

A case in point is Ibiza Global (and sister stations).

They are now available on Sonos Radio (aka TuneIn) and myTuner but not on vtuner.  The Sonos and myTuner streams play different track lists! 

Further, there is the special case of the UK where many non-UK stations are not playable on many aggregators. The reason for this is unclear. 

What are the implications for users? Use more than one service to search for and play your favourite stations.  Sonos is ideal for this as it has a variety of radio services.  Many other systems are restricted to just one service - if that goes down or delists stations then the user is stymied. 

interesting to look into this. TuneIn lost against Sony/Warner in 2019 and lost at the Court of Appeal in 2021.

As the UK was outside the EU the Court could have taken a different line to the European Court of Justice. However, it saw no reason to divert from EU case law and ruled in favour of Sony/Warner.

Now, is TuneIn able to stream radio from outside the EU into the EU, or have Sony/Warner chickened out of that ?

unless being outside the EU ha allowed a UK court to make a ruling it could not otherwise do  - complicated and bloody annoying.

TuneIn wiil no longer deliver stations from anywhere else in the world either-  US, Australia - I even tried Argentina - so I don’t think its a Brexit thing, more a ruling in a UK court.

Who knows? It's another mystery. 

I’ve added Classic FM via Radioplayer. However, my point is that if it’s something to do with myTuner blocking European stations for people in the UK, why has it blocked Classic FM?

Isn't it called 'Taking Back Control'??? 

Classic is a Global station.  They actively promote use of their own app.  They DO have a Sonos service, if you can get that to work with the new app.  It works for me, if that means anything at the moment! 

Further to my previous post, I’ve just remembered that Classic FM has also been removed from the myTuner service on Sonos - and that is definitely a UK station. So what’s going on?

Indeed. It’ll probably be sorted/worked around/ eventually circumvented. 

HI and thx. If you ger a reply from MyTuner could you let us know what they say ? 

Steve 

Re myTuner: I’m in the UK and all the European classical stations which I’ve got on my Sonos set-up no longer work, although I can still play the stations through myTuner in a web browser. I’ve emailed myTuner to ask why but haven’t received a reply yet.

Some stations (NRK Klassisk, SR P2, France Musique) are accessible in Sonos via their own services (ie the equivalent of BBC Sounds) but the rest aren’t. The Classical genre in myTuner on Sonos has some stations in it but they all look to be UK ones.

I’ve had to resort to using our old internet radio for the missing stations but it’s a far from satisfactory solution - and only works in one room, unlike Sonos.