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I'm unapologetically repeating this topic because the answer 6 months ago was to wait for app updates. Surely 6 months is long enough to wait for basic functionality to be restored so can we at least have a forecast when we'll get it back please?

POV: It's a well known adage in software development that you should never throw it all away and start again because you'll spend years getting back to where you were and rediscovering why each weird bit of code worked the way it did. Very sadly Sonos didn't know about this😥😥😥😥

Hello ​@Ian7878, welcome back!

The ability to add at the end of the queue has been added in one of our previous updates.

I am currently using Spotify via the Sonos App, playing one of my favorite OST playlists and for testing purposes, added an entire album from a random artist at the end of the Queue after searching for it.

Showing the process at the image below:

What is your experience, and how are you unable to add Albums in your Queue?

Let me know if the above helped.

 


Apologies. I realise I was using the word album too loosely. Let me explain.

I've transcribed my CDs and records into a folder per album on a NAS drive. So each folder contains all the tracks of an album but is not an Album in sonos terms. So when I want to add an album to the queue I need to add a folder not an Album, so I cannot use your solution (which I can see would work)

More correctly therefore I should have complained that I cannot add a folder to the queue. The first

screenshot shows the folder I want to add. I can play all the tracks in the folder, but clicking the 3 dots only provides the option to "pin collection to home" as shown on the second screenshot.

 


If you changed from folder to Genre, Artist, Album, or Songs its the same behaviour. 


Hi.  How are folders relevant?  Sonos uses tags not folders (other than providing a Folders view in the local music library).  That is how it is and has to be.

When streaming I get the following screen.  I was able to add the album to the queue.

 

 


I think the title.of this thread should be."Cannot add folder to queue". To which.the answer is "Of course you can't ".


I wonder why you can append songs from folder view but not albums? 

It’s the same issue with library content. For example you can’t append a genre to the queue. Seems like you should be able to add any playable library content to the queue (without having to resort to album by album) but maybe not a reasonable expectation given the state of things. 

 


I think the title.of this thread should be."Cannot add folder to queue". To which.the answer is "Of course you can't ".

I'm missing something. Why is it so obvious that a folder which is after all merely a collection of tracks, and one that sonos understands, should not be able to be added to the queue?


Hi.  How are folders relevant?  Sonos uses tags not folders (other than providing a Folders view in the local music library).  That is how it is and has to be.

Has to be? A folder is merely a collection of tracks.


I'm missing something. Why is it so obvious that a folder which is after all merely a collection of tracks, and one that sonos understands, should not be able to be wdded to the queue?

 

Because of the way Sonos stores tracks.  Tracks are stored with a few tags used as keywords and a path/filename.  They can only be added by keyword, and the folder is not a keyword, it is a locator.


I think the title.of this thread should be."Cannot add folder to queue". To which.the answer is "Of course you can't ".

I'm missing something. Why is it so obvious that a folder which is after all merely a collection of tracks, and one that sonos understands, should not be able to be added to the queue?

Tags are embedded into music files precisely for the purpose of allowing software to organise the files and perform actions on them.  The current (potentially transient and illogical) folder location is not referenced within the file itself and so isn’t a sensible basis for doing anything.  Music players and controllers of every type I have seen use the tags to manage and play the files.


You can play a folder. You can’t append. 
You can play a genre, but can’t append. 
You can play a song from folder view and you can append a song from folder view 

You can play a playlist on your nas from folder view and append it in folder view. 

You can play all songs by an artist but cant append. 
And so on. 
 


I wonder why you can append songs from folder view but not albums? 

It’s the same issue with library content. For example you can’t append a genre to the queue. Seems like you should be able to add any playable library content to the queue (without having to resort to album by album) but maybe not a reasonable expectation given the state of things. 

 

This is totally confused and muddles two things together.

Sonos uses metadata to organise and play music files. It does not use folder structure for this, although it's aware of it.

Sonos presents tbe files in song within album within artist structure  because that is how most users think about their music. Bit this is based entirely on tags.

So if you put all your Def Leppard tracks in a folder labelled Adele, sonos will still treat them as Def Leppard.  Folder is ignored and rightly so

Why can you add all the tracks for an album and not a genre? Because it's manageable, it's how most people think, and it doesn't clutter the screen with an option hardly anybody wants 

As I indicates, this is a design decision. It should not be confused with the misconception underlying this thread, that folders are being added to queues 

 


Oh I didn’t know you are the authority on what everyone wants🤣 That explains a lot. 
 

You post like you can’t play folders from folder view. You can.  But you can’t append the folder to the queue. If it’s a design decision it’s inconsistent as noted in my above post. 

Manageable? lol come on. Heaven forbid this menu be “cluttered” with an “append to queue” option. 
 



 

 


I think the title.of this thread should be."Cannot add folder to queue". To which.the answer is "Of course you can't ".

I'm missing something. Why is it so obvious that a folder which is after all merely a collection of tracks, and one that sonos understands, should not be able to be added to the queue?

Tags are embedded into music files precisely for the purpose of allowing software to organise the files and perform actions on them.  The current (potentially transient and illogical) folder location is not referenced within the file itself and so isn’t a sensible basis for doing anything.  Music players and controllers of every type I have seen use the tags to manage and play the files.

All this I know. But it is too purist to deny use of folders as collections just because the information is not in the file.

Users come with different perspectives and just because their perspective doesn't match yours it doesn't mean they are wrong. I'd like to play and queue folders please.


I feel like I need to throw my 2 cents in, with a not-very-helpful “you USED to be able to append a folder to the queue on the old system”, so to say that it doesn’t work that way isn’t factually accurate. In actuality, that was how I used to add music to my queue for day-to-day listening. I find NOT using folder view clunky and frustrating - it may be a neurodiversity thing, but that is the way I am used to things working.

I’m not entirely sure how useful this post was, but I’m in one of those moods this morning 😖


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