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Updated memory graphic

  • January 25, 2020
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Stanley_4
This is controlav’s chart.

 

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BCM
  • January 25, 2020

Its a shame they can’t provide a service to upgrade the memory. I’d gladly pay for the part, labor and shipping. You’d think the bigger memory would support a larger local music library index also.


Airgetlam
  • January 25, 2020

I would think the cost of such a service would outstrip the cost of a new speaker, due to the (perceived) manual labor involved. And, for all I know, the memory and COU might be soldered in, rather than socketed, increasing the complexity of replacement, and the circuit board and power supply might not be sufficient. 


Stanley_4
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  • Lead Maestro
  • January 25, 2020

Upgrading the memory is likely to need a new logic board, not going to be cost effective. The labor in trying to re-work the original board is probably worse.

The new board could also upgrade the CPU and radio but I just can’t see an economic case.


controlav
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  • January 26, 2020

if anyone can tell me how to turn a 0/1 value in Excel into a nice icon in a graph, I can update the chart with more info like Voice and Airplay, but it looks ugly as 0 and 1s right now. My Excel skills were pushed to the max to create this chart!


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  • Trending Lyricist I
  • January 26, 2020

There are two Sub's??? How can you tell which one you have?


Stanley_4
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  • Lead Maestro
  • January 26, 2020

By the first four digits of the serial number (YYMM) or by the internal Zone Player Info screen’s model info.

I don’t have what the differences are but that is what you are looking for.


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  • Trending Lyricist I
  • January 26, 2020

My point is that there are two Sub's version on the diagram.  How do I know which one I have?


jgatie
  • January 26, 2020

My point is that there are two Sub's version on the diagram.  How do I know which one I have?

 

Shouldn’t really matter, the storage is what limits what can be loaded into memory, and the storage is the same for both.  In truth it matters even less for the Sub, which doesn’t have much smarts, it simply plays the one channel it’s given.  No playlists, no music index, no account info, etc., so the Sub should be good for decades.  


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  • Trending Lyricist I
  • January 26, 2020

This new chart has two subs, one with 64/64 and one with 64/128


controlav
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  • Lead Maestro
  • January 26, 2020

This new chart has two subs, one with 64/64 and one with 64/128


Yup, there’s an A100 and an A100.2 - I was surprised by this discovery too.


Airgetlam
  • January 26, 2020

Since the SUB is always a “slave” device, i.e. bonded to another Sonos device, I wonder what difference it makes. I’ve always assumed a “bonded” device doesn’t need the full code set. 


Peter Mc
  • January 26, 2020

Its a shame they can’t provide a service to upgrade the memory. I’d gladly pay for the part, labor and shipping. You’d think the bigger memory would support a larger local music library index also.


Imagine if all players had originally been designed like some Android phones with an SD memory card slot that could be exchanged for a bigger card!


Airgetlam
  • January 26, 2020

Can you run the current version of Android on these devices? I’m an Apple iPhone user, so I’m a bit more accustomed to this limited memory issue. 


Stanley_4
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  • Lead Maestro
  • January 27, 2020

The SD option on Android is only storage space, not for ROM or RAM which is what legacy gear is short of.


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  • Enthusiast I
  • January 30, 2020

Thanks for sharing the chart! 
 

The connect amp difference are easy to spot because of the play pause button, but how can we tell the difference between which Play1, Play3 and Sub we were sold?

 


controlav
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  • February 1, 2020

You can read the device xml directly - if you go to my Facebook page listed n the graphic you’ll see the details on how to do that.


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  • Enthusiast I
  • February 1, 2020

Excellent ty


AjTrek1
  • June 29, 2020

@Stanley_4 

Can you update the chart to include the Arc, Five and Sub(gen3)?

Cheers!


controlav
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  • Lead Maestro
  • June 30, 2020

Sure, I was having some trouble with Excel but I’ll have another go.


controlav
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  • Lead Maestro
  • June 30, 2020

 


AjTrek1
  • June 30, 2020

@controlav 

Oops… my bad 🤥 I thought it was @Stanley_4‘s work. No offense Stan. Thanks @controlav 


Stanley_4
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  • Lead Maestro
  • June 30, 2020

I had that old version of the chart by controlav saved to my local drive but hadn’t saved who did it. I went back and credited the image which I should have done earlier.


  • Lyricist I
  • November 4, 2020

Hi @controlav - I noted that your chart shows no Play:3 512mb model. Ifixit did a teardown of a Play:3 in 2013 and found 512mb NAND and RAM chips.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Sonos+Play:3+Teardown/12475


controlav
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  • November 4, 2020

Hi @controlav - I noted that your chart shows no Play:3 512mb model. Ifixit did a teardown of a Play:3 in 2013 and found 512mb NAND and RAM chips.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Sonos+Play:3+Teardown/12475


My chart is based on devices in the wild, that declare their capabilities. I don’t have telemetry that matches the hardware you describe. It is also possible that Sonos simply bought larger memory devices (because they were cheaper than the older, smaller devices) and don’t use that extra memory.


  • Lyricist I
  • November 5, 2020

How interesting- I wonder then if they have software-limited the memory and could open it up in future. I wonder what the real range of possible devices is out there.