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Mutti
Mutti
July 17, 2023

Unable to go back to s1

Hi all, 

By accident (my son) my Sonos beam gen1 has been upgraded to the crap of s2 😩🤮

Now I'm trying to rollback to s1 but is not working.

Did somehow Sonos decided that it is not possible anymore to rollback? 

Could someone help me pls

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17 replies

Mutti
MuttiAuthor
July 17, 2023

For info I start s2 app, 

Go in the settings menu 

Assistance 

Go to s1 in the product

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It starts to search for devices, but then nothing happened 😭😭😭

 

UKMedia
UKMedia
July 17, 2023

Hi all, 

By accident (my son) my Sonos beam gen1 has been upgraded to the crap of s2 😩🤮

Now I'm trying to rollback to s1 but is not working.

Did somehow Sonos decided that it is not possible anymore to rollback? 

Could someone help me pls

Just as a matter of interest, what don’t you like about the S2 App?  I use it with my Beam and have no issues at all.

Remember: Sometimes Red Wine helps :)
Airgetlam
Airgetlam
July 17, 2023

Also, any ‘rollback’ to S1 requires an already existing S1 product. If everything on your system is S2, there is no way to ‘rollback’. 
 

Edit: at least that’s my understanding. 

Bruce
    John B
    July 18, 2023

    @Mutti .  I echo @UKMedia ‘s comments.  The S2 system works fine.  What is your objection to it?

      Mutti
      MuttiAuthor
      July 24, 2023
       

      Just as a matter of interest, what don’t you like about the S2 App?  I use it with my Beam and have no issues at all.

      @John B@UKMedia 

      Many things starting with the fact that is incompatible with some “old” products.
      Sonos made some products incompatible with S2 only to make them forcibly obsolete.
      I can't believe, for example, that updates made at the SMB protocol level cannot also be developed for S1 products too… I understand that Sonos has to push the new products, but if they don’t want to support the old ones, just “let them free” and give the chance to developers to do their job! :-(

      Mutti
      MuttiAuthor
      July 24, 2023

      @Mutti .  I echo @UKMedia ‘s comments.  The S2 system works fine.  What is your objection to it?

      Thank you! maybe this is the trick. I will see how to do it, because I have a S1 speaker

      jgatie
      jgatie
      July 24, 2023

      @John B@UKMedia 

      Many things starting with the fact that is incompatible with some “old” products.
      Sonos made some products incompatible with S2 only to make them forcibly obsolete.
      I can't believe, for example, that updates made at the SMB protocol level cannot also be developed for S1 products too… I understand that Sonos has to push the new products, but if they don’t want to support the old ones, just “let them free” and give the chance to developers to do their job! :-(

       

      It’s pretty tough to update the SMB protocol when a newer protocol doesn’t even exist in the Linux kernel they are using for S1, and upgrading the kernel isn’t possible because there’s not enough RAM/storage to run a newer kernel.  

        Mutti
        MuttiAuthor
        July 24, 2023

        @jgatie , I don’t know how you are aware about this things, but for example on tasmota devices, since the RAM/storage is low, to upgrade the firmware you first load a minimal version e then you move to the new one. This could be a solution to the problem you exposed…

        or maybe there are a 1000 other better solutions, but sonos has to free the old devices :)

        melvimbe
        melvimbe
        July 24, 2023

        @jgatie, I don’t know how you are aware about this things, but for example on tasmota devices, since the RAM/storage is low, to upgrade the firmware you first load a minimal version e then you move to the new one. This could be a solution to the problem you exposed…

        or maybe there are a 1000 other better solutions, but sonos has to free the old devices :)

        What do you mean by ‘set them free’?  Since you own these devices, I’m sure you’re free to put your own software on them, and use them in whatever way you please.  Are you wanting to Sonos to hand over the firmware source code for S1,so you can make your own changes?   I’m no patent lawyer, but I’d think that would allow Sonos competitors to use Sonos code without fear of lawsuit and severely damage Sonos as a business.  

        Danny
        Mutti
        MuttiAuthor
        July 24, 2023

        I know it is a patent related problem (money). And may also ethical. You can trow away your old device every year if you want. It’s up to you

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