Sonos (Turntable / Yamaha Integrated Amp) Advice


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Hey Everyone,

I was hoping someone could help me out.

Currently, my setup is Turntable > Phono Preamp > Connect > Integrated Amp > Passive Speakers. That way when I play my records I can here it on all my Sonos Speakers in my house.

However, does anyone know if there is a way to set it up as Turntable > Phono Pre Amp > Yamaha Receiver.

And have the Connect plugged only into the receiver. I'm worried about the Connect effecting the Analog signal.

Here's a picture of the back of my receiver.

Thanks for the help.

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On my Yamaha, an older RX-V661 there is a slight delay in some of the processed audio modes where the receiver is altering the audio. In Pure-Direct there is none, the others vary from unnoticeable to barely noticeable.
Same for me. Ten year old Yamaha AX-757SE: no percpeptible delay when using its (processed) 2-CH and 7-CH stereo modes. The message is not to assume there will be processing delay problems without first verifying it to be the case.


This is my experience also. I run my receiver in 7ch stereo with the digital enhancer on using optical input. I have no perceptible delay in the playback between either of my connects and receivers and the other Sonos speakers in the house.
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From a previous question. When I'm plugging the Connect. If i'm doing the second option. Can I just plug a Coax into the Coax of the receiver?

Say my Phono is going into Line 1 Input. Should I run RCAs from Line 1 Output to the Connect and plug the Coax to the Coax of the receiver? Or should I run RCAs from Line 2 Output from the receiver into the Connect Input?

Sorry confused if I am supposed to share the same Line.


Coax and optical are both digital outs. When you use a digital out on a device, you are simply using the device as a router to deliver the original digital signal/file to the receiver. The direct signal/file is then decided to music using the receivers digital to anologue converter. If your receiver has a better DAC than the Connect or it has DSP then you will get better sound using the digital out on your Connect.

The answer to your question Is, if you use the digital input, it isn’t going to matter. Likely the digital input is the AUX setting. Your receiver should output that signal on all outs. On your receiver, the out channels were designed mostly for the cassette tape and VCR recording days. Today’s equipment usually have analogue signal outs and channel preouts.
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On my Yamaha, an older RX-V661 there is a slight delay in some of the processed audio modes where the receiver is altering the audio. In Pure-Direct there is none, the others vary from unnoticeable to barely noticeable.
Same for me. Ten year old Yamaha AX-757SE: no percpeptible delay when using its (processed) 2-CH and 7-CH stereo modes. The message is not to assume there will be processing delay problems without first verifying it to be the case.
Digressing from the topic, I wonder if this can be a solution, perhaps partial, to the issue of delays from using a Connect into an AVR using its processing modes. Have the two delays cancel each other, although I suspect that getting echoes to vanish will take more than partial cancellation.
That's a different delay, caused by receiver DSP; it would be caused by the speakers wired to the receiver getting their signal later than Sonos speakers, both being supplied by a Connect. I do not think that applies here because the amp in question is a stereo amp.

The sync issue that the OP should be seeing will be due to the receiver speakers playing before the Sonos speakers. That cannot be corrected by any adjustment in the receiver and will get worse if Connect Line in is set to compressed mode.
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On my Yamaha, an older RX-V661 there is a slight delay in some of the processed audio modes where the receiver is altering the audio. In Pure-Direct there is none, the others vary from unnoticeable to barely noticeable.

The connect to the receiver via TOS works well for me and the delay is barely noticeable in the same room, I can't hear it standing in the hallway between the connect's room and nearby rooms with Plays in them.
I would have to read the manual to advise; but I see no harm in trying both to see what works, starting with Line 1 inputs and outputs. Depending on what you are doing, you will also need to toggle buttons on the front panel of the Yamaha to get signals to be correctly routed, but here too there will be no harm caused by experimenting to find out what works. If you get no sound after trying out, post here.
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From a previous question. When I'm plugging the Connect. If i'm doing the second option. Can I just plug a Coax into the Coax of the receiver?

Say my Phono is going into Line 1 Input. Should I run RCAs from Line 1 Output to the Connect and plug the Coax to the Coax of the receiver? Or should I run RCAs from Line 2 Output from the receiver into the Connect Input?

Sorry confused if I am supposed to share the same Line.
Yes, and yes if the TT is supplying signals to both the Receiver and, via REC out, to the Connect. The first Yes is irrelevant, you can see this for yourself just now. No harm in testing the second one if you have cables lying around.
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Gotcha. So you're saying Turntable > Phono > Connect > Receiver. Will have no delay? And if I had the Connect separate and plugged in on it's own. There will be a delay?
In the current set up with the TT wired to the Connect, the designed delay in the Connect is being passed to all speakers including the ones driven by the Yamaha, so all are equally delayed, but in sync. If the TT signals are now fed to the Yamaha and separately to the Connect, they will pass directly through the Yamaha to the Yamaha speakers with no audible delay; but the signal from the TT that will go to the Connect, will suffer a delay there before being sent to Sonos speakers. Result: out of sync.
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Since you already have the tube preamp, I’d suggest you do this.
Phono>preamp>receiver
Receiver rec out>Sonos Connect line in
Sonos Connect digital our>receiver digital in.

Be advised that this will cause sync issues between the Yamaha and Sonos speakers.


This has not been an issue for me. If OP hasn’t had an issue thus far with current setup, he shouldn’t see one with this one should he?
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And. When it comes to the REC input. Should it be same line as the preamp is input. Or do they need to be separated. For example Line 1 inputs have the phono. And the outputs of line 1 go to the Connect?
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Or use Optical? Instead of Coax
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Thanks for your time. And to be clear. Yahama REC (RCAs) into the Connect Input. Then on the Connect (plug in a Coax and put it in the Coax of the Yahama)?
Since you already have the tube preamp, I’d suggest you do this.
Phono>preamp>receiver
Receiver rec out>Sonos Connect line in
Sonos Connect digital our>receiver digital in.

Be advised that this will cause sync issues between the Yamaha and Sonos speakers.
I'm just doing turntable and steaming apple music. No other sources.
Excellent. Stick to the existing set up and enjoy the music - you will not get better sound, subject to what is there in the source files, quality of the LP, and quality of the turntable. Not much you can do with that except lash out on a more expensive turntable, which I don't recommend if yours works as well as streamed music. You could also change sound quality by getting better speakers, but I don't recommend that either if you are happy with what you hear today.
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So your set up is turntable (RCA) to connect. And then connect (coax) to receiver?
No. I’m set up as above but I used the optical out
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Since you already have the tube preamp, I’d suggest you do this.
Phono>preamp>receiver
Receiver rec out>Sonos Connect line in
Sonos Connect digital our>receiver digital in.
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So your set up is turntable (RCA) to connect. And then connect (coax) to receiver?
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This is my receiver. https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/hifi_components/a-s701/features.html
Changing to the coax route from Connect to Yamaha will mean that you are using the DAC on the Yamaha instead of that in the Connect. Again, no audible difference, a DAC is a DAC is a DAC. But there are many audiophiles who will bend your ears to say otherwise, if you have the time for them.
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Explain me digital out to receiver? Does that mean RCA in the outputs of the Connect and it plugged into the Inputs of the receiver? So the chain is turntable > preamp > connect > receiver.
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In my opinion, and how mine is set up, is digital out to receiver. I have a high end Yamaha Adventage setup. However, most audio geeks will say that sample rate and bit depth specs are likely the same between both and shouldn’t matter. I’m my case, my receiver has digital compression enhancer which is supposed to improve and fill in compression loss.
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I'm just doing turntable and steaming apple music. No other sources.