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Contributor I
December 31, 2012

Enable IPv6

in 2013 it is way time to add IPv6 support to every things we connect to the Internet.
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    Lyricist I
    November 4, 2014
    Concur completely. Sonos, you are WAY behind the curve on v6 support. You want to be a leader? Do you part to drag humanity into the present with IPv6 support.
    MikeV
    December 23, 2014
    Another bump, more updated stats... 2014 has been a banner year for growth in IPv6!

    - Almost 12% of internet users in the US are using IPv6. We started 2014 at only 6%! Of course, Comcast's announcement that their whole network now supports IPv6 took a big step in that advancement!

    - Some other worldwide numbers of IPv6 USERS from Cisco/Google...
    • Portugal - 5.24%... over 700% growth this year
    • Belgium - 29.5%... almost 500% growth this year
    • Norway - 8.4%... over 400% growth this year
    • Czech Republic - 8.3%... over 400% growth this year
    • Germany - 12.7%... almost doubled their user percentage
    • Switzerland - 10.3%... fluctuated between 10-11% most of the year
    • Japan - 5.9%... started 2014 at ~3.5%
    - At least 4 other European countries are also above 5% of users using IPv6 (France, Estonia, Greece, and Romania), though these countries are growing their IPv6 user bases at a slower pace.

    A new year is around the corner... and with it, a new frontier of the internet growing rapidly! My Sonos equipment waits patiently to join the rest of my home network in using this new version of the internet protocol!
    The S in IOT stands for Security.
    Lyricist III
    February 10, 2015
    I experimented with turning off v4 resolvers at home, and the Sonos app on my Mac would not connect to any services.  This should mean that Sonos is doing its own DNS resolution rather than handing it off to the OS.  This just seems silly to me, and should be something that is cleaned up.  Just adding to the pile of requests 🙂
    MikeV
    May 14, 2015
    Time to trot this one out again... IPv6 growth continues, as does IPv4 depletion. Despite repeated reclamation efforts that have extended IPv4 availability, the US is slated to run out of IPv4 addresses this year. What that really means is that there won't be any new addresses available to be allocated to companies from ARIN. Of course some companies have a surplus of addresses that they can continue to use, and there will also likely be private trading of addresses for money. But nonetheless, IPv6 is still something that needs to be added to the Sonos system.

    Just as HLS/chunked streaming should have been added a while ago (the format has been around for years) and has now hit a critical mass with the BBC moving nearly all of its streams to this format, IPv6 is yet another thing that NEEDS attention. IPv6 is all that is available for new internet growth in some countries, and without this support, there's always a chance that if a provider moves to IPv6, their streams will no longer be available for listening through Sonos.

    The US is now up to 15.6% of internet users using IPv6.
    Portugal has almost doubled their closing 2014 numbers already this year, now at 9.2%.
    Germany is up a bit, now at 14%.
    Greece closed out 2014 at 6.75%... they're up to 8.3%.
    Estonia's IPv6 use has grown to 7.5%.
    Malaysia is up to 7.25%, adding 1.25% to the 6% that they ended 2014 with.
    Saudi Arabia has flipped the switch, and in the past month has jumped from 0% to 5% of their users now using IPv6.
    Japan is up to 7.4%.

    Europe and Asia are both showing significant growth. Many countries have already doubled what they ended 2014 with, just in the first 5 months of the year. Of course, percentage wise, to go from .3% to .7% may be pretty trivial. But this is still indicative that IPv6 use is continuing to grow at a rapid pace around the globe. Many European countries that read 0% back in January are now showing anywhere from 1 to 2.5%.

    And as a number that should be a bit scary... in many countries that have significant IPv6 deployments, 40-50% of the most visited content is already accessible by IPv6. This is a figure calculated using the top 500 sites in a country (as ranked by Alexa) that have IPv6 available, and factoring in the page views of those sites compared to the page views of sites that don't have IPv6 available. I could easily list 25 countries that meet this statistic.

    PLEASE ADD IPv6 SUPPORT TO SONOS!
    The S in IOT stands for Security.
    May 14, 2015
    Are there really that many Sonos devices on the public network? It seems like the only thing that needs to support IPv6 is your router (on the WAN side) since all of your LAN addresses are served by NAT and don't impact the public address pool anyway.
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    MikeV
    May 14, 2015
    Are there really that many Sonos devices on the public network? It seems like the only thing that needs to support IPv6 is your router (on the WAN side) 
    IPv6 needs to be supported by your ISP (or use a tunnel provider), your router, and your devices. 

    IPv6 doesn't use NAT like IPv4 does. Every device on your network with an IPv6 address is able to make a direct connection to the IPv6 server it's communicating with. Port forwards are a thing of the past; you now change a setting in your firewall to allow a port through to a specific host.

    Devices can have both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses, since IPv4 will likely be around in some way for years still. But the future is definitely in IPv6, and there are already services (Google Play Music, for one) that support IPv6 access.

    Also, just to note how far behind Sonos is... Everything on my home network - except for my Logitech Harmony Hub and my Sonos devices - is capable of IPv6. All of my computers, my tablet, my smartphone, my network printer, my Apple TV boxes, my NAS... all of it supports (and is using) IPv6. 
    The S in IOT stands for Security.
    Lyricist I
    June 6, 2015
    So I picked up one Sonos devices to see how I like it, and its OK but the fact that it does not seem to support IPV6 is preventing me from getting  any more of there speakers particularly if the Play 3 that I just got is not going to be compatible. 

    Question: has Sonos responded to any of this stating their position on IPV6? and if or when the speakers will be made IPV6 compatible?
    MikeV
    June 6, 2015
    So I picked up one Sonos devices to see how I like it, and its OK but the fact that it does not seem to support IPV6 is preventing me from getting  any more of there speakers particularly if the Play 3 that I just got is not going to be compatible. 

    Question: has Sonos responded to any of this stating their position on IPV6? and if or when the speakers will be made IPV6 compatible?

    The original status given to this topic over 2 years ago when it was created was "Not planned". About a year ago, they removed the "Not planned" flag from the idea, which means that there's a chance it could be added. But beyond that, there's been no further info on whether or not, or when, they might support IPv6.
    The S in IOT stands for Security.
    Lyricist I
    June 7, 2015
    So I picked up one Sonos devices to see how I like it, and its OK but the fact that it does not seem to support IPV6 is preventing me from getting  any more of there speakers particularly if the Play 3 that I just got is not going to be compatible. 

    Question: has Sonos responded to any of this stating their position on IPV6? and if or when the speakers will be made IPV6 compatible?

    Thanks MikeV, So... its looking like they do not want to sell any more internet speakers? they do know that internet speakers need to speak the language that the internet speaks?  interesting business model. I only have 1 speaker,  I would be super pissed off if I invested heavily  in this platform only to find that the company that's backing it, is not thinking about the future. 

    I am also super concerned about the amount of time you have been talking with them about this and there is still no clearly communicated plans from them.

    Not very reassuring.
    MikeV
    June 8, 2015
    So I picked up one Sonos devices to see how I like it, and its OK but the fact that it does not seem to support IPV6 is preventing me from getting  any more of there speakers particularly if the Play 3 that I just got is not going to be compatible. 

    Question: has Sonos responded to any of this stating their position on IPV6? and if or when the speakers will be made IPV6 compatible?

    Which is why I'm not investing in additional Sonos equipment (I have 3 Sonos devices so far). Anything new added to my network will support IPv6 (now or in the future) or it won't be purchased.

    My Sonos players, Harmony Hub, and IP phone are the only things on my network that do not have IPv6 support. 

    All I want is some kind of acknowledgement that "Yes, IPv6 will be supported in the future" and what devices will support it. I don't want a date. I don't even want a guess. Just tell me that it will (eventually) happen. In theory it has to happen since, as you mention, it's the future of the internet.
    The S in IOT stands for Security.