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July 25, 2024

Update on the Sonos App from Patrick Spence

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Update on the Sonos App from Patrick Spence

Hello everyone,

We wanted to take a moment to address concerns regarding our new app that launched in May. At Sonos, delivering an exceptional experience is paramount to all that we do. Unfortunately, your experiences over the past several weeks have fallen short of our commitment to you.

Today, our CEO Patrick Spence published a letter that includes a detailed update on the progress we’ve been making and plans going forward. You can read the full letter here.

We sincerely appreciate your patience and continued support. We are working hard to earn back your trust and are more committed than ever to delivering a consistently great Sonos experience for everyone.

Thank you all for your patience,
Your Sonos Team

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    Prodigy III
    July 28, 2024

    You must be one of the few, or a Sonos employee!

    Or someone with excellent attention to fine tuning his router, mesh, phone and app? It’s not sorcery that the app works for me.

    Don't worry, your day will come. I'm betting my “excellent attention” rivals yours, yet my Sonos system’s behaviour differs day by day without any changes in my otherwise well-functioning network. Much is down to Sonos’s new “call home” cloud implementation. About 10% of the time my favourites won't load...until I refresh the app five seconds later. Sometimes firmware updates work, sometimes not. Last night the Calm Radio service stopped playing on Sonos for a few hours, but worked perfectly well in my network with the Calm app, with the third-party software of my (excellent) Wiim gear and when played via Roon. And the list goes on. When something works one second but not the next, then works again a few seconds later, it's not my network. When things that functioned perfectly for months stopped working or became problematic after the “courageous” update, it's not my network. When I have zero network problems with anything other than Sonos, it's not my network. When I have identical Sonos issues in Sonos setups in homes in two countries with completely different network gear (and both with gigabit internet service), it's not my network(s).

    But, yes, it's not sorcery.

     

    Damn well said! Thank you.

    This Rhonny person had pissed me off with the holier than though approach to what is clearly a major problem 

    You have spelt out the best reply to Rhonny.

    You guys…

    It’s not holier than thou, I’m just saying it works for me. I’m allowed to say that. 

    slworona
    Enthusiast II
    July 28, 2024

    Here’s something Patrick Spence and SONOS could actually do: Offer customers, at no charge, appopriately-sized boxes and packing material for each piece of registered SONOS equipment. This would facilitate the shipment of units from people who have given up on SONOS to those who haven’t. This thread and others seem to indicate that there are plenty of people in both groups, so for SONOS to facilitate that market would be win-win. And he could go further and include with each shipping box a pre-paid UPS label with address to be filled in by the sender. Just a thought.

    Prodigy III
    July 28, 2024

    Here’s something Patrick Spence and SONOS could actually do: Offer customers, at no charge, appopriately-sized boxes and packing material for each piece of registered SONOS equipment. This would facilitate the shipment of units from people who have given up on SONOS to those who haven’t. This thread and others seem to indicate that there are plenty of people in both groups, so for SONOS to facilitate that market would be win-win. And he could go further and include with each shipping box a pre-paid UPS label with address to be filled in by the sender. Just a thought.

    So you don’t want any money for your speakers? If that’s the case, I’ll send you a box?

    slworona
    Enthusiast II
    July 28, 2024

    Of course the seller would want the money, but that’s what Venmo and Paypal are for.

    Lyricist III
    July 28, 2024

    I think it means they are lost...not listening to customer concerns and so busy thinking about new toys that they forgot the service they were supposed to provide.

    Yes, or in other words, “when you’re in a hole, stop digging!” When your software already does not properly support the existing product set, stop introducing more products. I understand the software/app development team and the new products team are probably separate, so critics here will say Sonos can simultaneously fix the app and introduce new products. But at the same time, it’s just logical that demanding the app support more products can at best be neutral to the app, or much more likely complicate and destabilize it. When the level of app dysfunction is already an existential threat to the company, and the app team has already fallen behind, pause new product introductions! Yes that will piss off Wall St., but certainly not more than this app disaster has done?

    Lyricist III
    July 28, 2024

    You must be one of the few, or a Sonos employee!

    Or someone with excellent attention to fine tuning his router, mesh, phone and app? It’s not sorcery that the app works for me.

    Don't worry, your day will come. I'm betting my “excellent attention” rivals yours, yet my Sonos system’s behaviour differs day by day without any changes in my otherwise well-functioning network. Much is down to Sonos’s new “call home” cloud implementation. About 10% of the time my favourites won't load...until I refresh the app five seconds later. Sometimes firmware updates work, sometimes not. Last night the Calm Radio service stopped playing on Sonos for a few hours, but worked perfectly well in my network with the Calm app, with the third-party software of my (excellent) Wiim gear and when played via Roon. And the list goes on. When something works one second but not the next, then works again a few seconds later, it's not my network. When things that functioned perfectly for months stopped working or became problematic after the “courageous” update, it's not my network. When I have zero network problems with anything other than Sonos, it's not my network. When I have identical Sonos issues in Sonos setups in homes in two countries with completely different network gear (and both with gigabit internet service), it's not my network(s).

    But, yes, it's not sorcery.

     

    Damn well said! Thank you.

    This Rhonny person had pissed me off with the holier than though approach to what is clearly a major problem 

    You have spelt out the best reply to Rhonny.

    You guys…

    It’s not holier than thou, I’m just saying it works for me. I’m allowed to say that. 

    Read your response  to my post again.  I am having major problems like thousands, nah, probably millions of others. We're all fed up with Sonos.  Others who have read my post have also slated you for your response.

    Your response was all about how great you are at adjusting things.

    We have paid out for a premium product. We expect it to work from the app (like it has continously up to May). We should not expect to have to adjust router, mesh. ...... all the settings say you do to make it work. If you are actually doing that, then you should be complaining also, because you simply shouldn't have to because a major multi-million dollar organisation foists a totally sub standard app onto us all, knows it's utter garbage, and then after 12 weeks of suffering no ability to really play / operate the system, sets out a road map to recovery, inside a really weak letter of apology.

    Who's right eh?

    Enough.

    Let's not bother with any further exchanges. 

    Sonos currently stinks, and the majority of it's users are saying the same.

    Avid Contributor I
    July 28, 2024

    If I recall, weren’t all of the remaining issues with the app to have been resolved by the end of July?  Now it’s pushed out until at least October.  I’m one of the people waiting on playlist management to be restored.  How in holy hell does it take five months to restore that component?  Something is not right here in regard to the explanation or the apology.  I am absolutely enraged at how badly Sonos has treated all of us existing customers.  I’m also willing to bet that not many of us even bought the Ace headphones after Wi-Fi streaming was not a part of the release specs.  Pathetic.

    Trending Lyricist I
    July 28, 2024

    Hello everyone,

    We wanted to take a moment to address concerns regarding our new app that launched in May. At Sonos, delivering an exceptional experience is paramount to all that we do. Unfortunately, your experiences over the past several weeks have fallen short of our commitment to you.

    Today, our CEO Patrick Spence published a letter that includes a detailed update on the progress we’ve been making and plans going forward. You can read the full letter here.

    We sincerely appreciate your patience and continued support. We are working hard to earn back your trust and are more committed than ever to delivering a consistently great Sonos experience for everyone.

    Thank you all for your patience,
    Your Sonos Team

    Nice sentiments when you say you appreciate our patience, but I’d remind you: we don’t have a choice here.  As to continued support, again: it was SONOS that dropped its support of US and our systems.

     

    Given the mess that’s been created, I suspect it won’t be long before SONOS is sold off to a music streaming company for pennies, in hopes that the new owner can clean up the mess.  Perhaps it’s time to just make the controller software open source would offer SONOS users more hope than what we have today?

    Lyricist I
    July 29, 2024

    Hello everyone,

    We wanted to take a moment to address concerns regarding our new app that launched in May. At Sonos, delivering an exceptional experience is paramount to all that we do. Unfortunately, your experiences over the past several weeks have fallen short of our commitment to you.

    Today, our CEO Patrick Spence published a letter that includes a detailed update on the progress we’ve been making and plans going forward. You can read the full letter here.

    We sincerely appreciate your patience and continued support. We are working hard to earn back your trust and are more committed than ever to delivering a consistently great Sonos experience for everyone.

    Thank you all for your patience,
    Your Sonos Team

    Seriously -- we had to find out he errors.  This app is horrific.   you ruined a high end music experience.   Was anyone held responsible and fired?   They clearly should have been. 

    Lyricist I
    July 29, 2024

    Hello everyone,

    We wanted to take a moment to address concerns regarding our new app that launched in May. At Sonos, delivering an exceptional experience is paramount to all that we do. Unfortunately, your experiences over the past several weeks have fallen short of our commitment to you.

    Today, our CEO Patrick Spence published a letter that includes a detailed update on the progress we’ve been making and plans going forward. You can read the full letter here.

    We sincerely appreciate your patience and continued support. We are working hard to earn back your trust and are more committed than ever to delivering a consistently great Sonos experience for everyone.

    Thank you all for your patience,
    Your Sonos Team

    Hello everyone,

    We wanted to take a moment to address concerns regarding our new app that launched in May. At Sonos, delivering an exceptional experience is paramount to all that we do. Unfortunately, your experiences over the past several weeks have fallen short of our commitment to you.

    Today, our CEO Patrick Spence published a letter that includes a detailed update on the progress we’ve been making and plans going forward. You can read the full letter here.

    We sincerely appreciate your patience and continued support. We are working hard to earn back your trust and are more committed than ever to delivering a consistently great Sonos experience for everyone.

    Thank you all for your patience,
    Your Sonos Team

    I can’t tell you how frustrated I am with your new application and the incorrect information I got from countless calls to your support team.

    I have two homes with two separate systems and over 12+ speakers. It worked flawless w/o interruption until the new application happened.

    Music went in and out, systems forgot the wifi. Countless hours of support to tell me that my wifi is slow or I needed a new Mesh WIFI system which are ALL incorrect.

    I had major issues with music going in and out on all streams of music. I use Apple Music the most.

    I finally was about to sell all my Sonos speakers and go to Apple Home Speakers and decided to try one last option. I decided to try airplay from Apple Music to all the Sonos speakers. NO ISSUES AT ALL. NO SKIPPING, NO STOPPING, NO DROPS. NOTHING. Flawless like it was before the new Sonos Application was installed in May 2024.

     

    So what this tells me is that it is the Sonos Application and not my wifi or new Mesh System,

     

    Please let your Support Team know it is the Application because I spent money on a. new Mesh system to try to solve this continuous issue and it was not needed. It is the awful application.