How about a version without Alexa and Google.
I don’t mind using my phone and the great Sonos app if it knocked the price down a bit.
If it didn't have the microphones for voice control, it wouldn't be able to use Automatic Trueplay tuning. Definitely a feature worth the price of the microphones if you ask me.If the mics shut off while on Bluetooth, does this mean Trueplay is not functional while on Bluetooth? If that is the case,do the Trueplay settings stay with the last settings or go back to a default?
If you turn off the microphone after Automatic Trueplay has done some tuning, the Trueplay settings will be remembered until the accelerometer detects that the unit has moved. When it moves, the audio profile will go back to the default tuning. Also, when you switch the unit off of WiFi and into Bluetooth mode, the tuning will be suspended until the unit goes back on WiFi. Bluetooth will always use the default tuning, unadjusted by Trueplay.
@KSavage072, when on the go in Bluetooth mode, Move operates as a solo unit, you can't stereo pair it or group it with other Sonos players. I'll make sure the team knows you're looking for this as a feature though.
How about a version without Alexa and Google.
I don’t mind using my phone and the great Sonos app if it knocked the price down a bit.If it didn't have the microphones for voice control, it wouldn't be able to use Automatic Trueplay tuning. Definitely a feature worth the price of the microphones if you ask me.If the mics shut off while on Bluetooth, does this mean Trueplay is not functional while on Bluetooth? If that is the case,do the Trueplay settings stay with the last settings or go back to a default?If you turn off the microphone after Automatic Trueplay has done some tuning, the Trueplay settings will be remembered until the accelerometer detects that the unit has moved. When it moves, the audio profile will go back to the default tuning. Also, when you switch the unit off of WiFi and into Bluetooth mode, the tuning will be suspended until the unit goes back on WiFi. Bluetooth will always use the default tuning, unadjusted by Trueplay.
@KSavage072, when on the go in Bluetooth mode, Move operates as a solo unit, you can't stereo pair it or group it with other Sonos players. I'll make sure the team knows you're looking for this as a feature though.
Thanks Ryan, Man if that could be done! I could have 10 to 15 sold throughout my group....
@Ryan S Is the lack of SonosNet support a software thing? If so would it be possible to suggest to the team that we have an option to turn it on (default off)
I'll pass the request over to the team for you, dave77. It may be hardware too. Also, it's worth noting that the wireless card on Move is the most powerful we've ever installed in a player. It may be able to operate much further from your router than you believe.
Thanks!
We have thicker walls in the UK! I have a Unifi AC Pro which is next to an outside wall. Inside it's 800Mbps, in the garden on the other side of the wall it's 0. I will happily try the Move but I doubt it will work.
In Southern California I've certainly dealt with my share of adobe walls and wire mesh lined construction. Here's hoping you're pleasantly surprised 🙂
Is there any idea about the price tag of the replacement battery yet?
Especially because of using it in a sustainable and ecological manner, it would be great to know about that before buying. Because the price is already almost twice as high as of the "One"! And if the battery price would be too high, then I would go for a wired Sonos once more instead of the "Move"....
Regarding the long term use of the "Move", the battery price should not get that much high...
...because it is inevitable that the battery has to be replaced if you want to use the "Move" for a long time!
@voodopupp Out of curiosity, how does the price of a replacement battery effect how sustainable/ecological the Move is? It certainly reflects how affordable the Move is, just not seeing the environmental impact of price.
Unrelated...for those of us who pre-ordered, you might want to check your tracking. Mine's out for delivery, a day early.
Hi melvimbe,
okay, a bit confusing ;)
in general I mean: the longer I use a product (instead of just replacing it) the better it is for the environment, right?
Lets set an imaginary example:
the battery will cost 200 bucks! (not entirely absurd on Sonos products 😉 )
And the battery will not die after 3 years, it will die already after 1 year and 4 months because
- excessive use
- no good treadment of the battery (leaving the Sonos move outside in the garden shed - always too cold inside or getting hot)
- ....
Whatever:
so people buy the "Move" and afterwards they realise the price tag for the replacement battery is really high and also the durability of the battery is not too good.
What could happen then? Some of the people will not buy a replacement battery but will buy another Sonos products instead. Because the wired versions work for several years without any problem....
So in the end there could be some "waste product" because it is not possible to use it in the way it should be used....and all the battery materials inside are perhaps not that ecological as a normal power supply unit.
Hi melvimbe,
okay, a bit confusing ;)
in general I mean: the longer I use a product (instead of just replacing it) the better it is for the environment, right?
Well yes. Maybe it's just semantics, but how long a product lasts and how much it costs (total cost of ownership) are not the same thing. I get what you're getting at though, just not what I think of in terms of sustainability/environmental impact.
Lets set an imaginary example:
the battery will cost 200 bucks! (not entirely absurd on Sonos products 😉 )
And the battery will not die after 3 years, it will die already after 1 year and 4 months because
- excessive use
- no good treadment of the battery (leaving the Sonos move outside in the garden shed - always too cold inside or getting hot)
- ....
Whatever:
so people buy the "Move" and afterwards they realise the price tag for the replacement battery is really high and also the durability of the battery is not too good.
What could happen then? Some of the people will not buy a replacement battery but will buy another Sonos products instead. Because the wired versions work for several years without any problem....
It sounds more like your question is not just price, but the quality of the product and battery. Sonos has talked about their testing and it's IPX rating. They also mentioned that it would last through 900 (I think it was 900) charges. Beyond that, I'm not sure we can know too much more.
So in the end there could be some "waste product" because it is not possible to use it in the way it should be used....and all the battery materials inside are perhaps not that ecological as a normal power supply unit.
...which has nothing to do with how much it costs. Regardless, it has a lithium ion battery in it, so I think it's going to be ecologically not as good as a plug in unit based on that alone.
FYI, for those that preordered, you might be receiving your speaker today. According to the tracking, mine's out for delivery
Received mine today. Is there. A way to know the battery level without having to look at the room on the app?
Received mine today. Is there. A way to know the battery level without having to look at the room on the app?
There's no regular power indicator on the device, we found the best place to put it was in the app. Where were you looking to find a power indication? I'll pass along that as feedback.
So as I stated above, my Move arrived a day early. I really love it, and for reasons I wasn't expecting. It's not
Packaging is nice, same as you always get with Sonos. A rather nice bonus is the Move came wrapped in it's own drawstring back that you can just use. I absolutely love little things like this, and I probably would have ended up buying one if not included. Very nice touch.
The size is actually pretty nice. A little heavy, but not overburdening at all. I like the handle way better than I thought I would and you can tell there was a lot of thought into getting it right.
Setup was rather easy as expected. Same as any other Sonos speaker, except you're going to want to setup bluetooth as well.
When I start playing it at first, it sounded plenty powerful, but not great overall. But that's because auto trueplay wasn't done yet. By the end of the first song, it's sounds like it's tuned. This is a very nice feature, absolutely love it. I think Sonos picked the right product to introduce the feature, because you can move it from room to room and hear the it make adjustments and improve itself. Not just demonstrating it's ability, but fun to do, IMO.
Overall sound quality once tuned is really better than expected. It feels like a little better than play:3. It's not going to beat out a pair of Sonos Ones, but you get all the new features.
The wifi range is pretty strong. It could go further than my Galaxy 9 could. Bluetooth mode sound quality isn't quite as good but feels like it's mostly due to the lack of auto trueplay. It feels like it assumes you're going to use it outside and tunes to that expectation.
One little important feature when switching modes, it seems like it remembers the volume you had on wifi. So when you switch it to bluetooth, you're going to mess with the volume, probably louder. Going back to wifi, it seemed to go back to it's previous volume. Oh, and I really like that the wifi/BT button is slightly raised and a different shape then the other buttons. It makes it so you can switch by touch alone, blind.
Alexa works as expected. I didn't play with it too much, but don't expect any issues.
I'm not exactly sure where I'm going to use the Move yet, what rooms since I have Sonos everywhere already. I think the answer might be, all of them. I've tried it in the dining room, a bedroom, a bathroom, the garage, the patio, it works everywhere. It's got a slightly different sound to it. And I found that I like picking it up and carry it around with me. And I suddenly have the desire to go to the beach this weekend. The Move makes me want to move.
Overall, what stands out the most to me isn't that it sounds good, that it's got a battery...we've seen that with other speakers before. It's auto trueplay, that it gonna sound good where ever you place it.
@melvimbe
Congratulations. I get mine tomorrow! Yippee!
One thing I'm not that crazy about is the charging ring. It's good in the sense that the speaker fits in there easily, but there isn't any snap or click feedback to let you know that it's there and charging. Maybe it's something that I'll get used to, but everything else I have with batteries gives me some feedback that's it's actually charging when I think it is. I know there's a light shining through the grill to let me know it's charging, but I really don't want to look at it.
Not all the crazy about how the ring looks without the speaker on it. Although it's sturdy, it doesn't look very substantial, and doesn't hide the power cord at all. The last is probably not a big deal depending on where you place the ring.
I've said this before, but I really want a wall mounting solution for the Move. The Move's at it's best when it's not docked, and I really don't want the ring to take up valuable space on a table or counter. Hopefully we'll see one soon.
And one other thing I forgot to mention, when looking at first images of the Move, I didn't like how the capacitive controls were pushed forward, not in the middle where they make more sense for swiping. After holding the Move, you can see why that was done. Your thumb or palm could easily hit a button if it was centered. Controls moved to front prevents that from happening.
The online reviews i have seen mention that the shape of the ring means that the speaker will always seat itself in the correct place for proper charging. Any click or magnetism would mean the base comes with you when you lift the move. I like that, even if the empty base is not an object of beauty! Inductive charging would have been a nice option though.
I've yet to see one in the flesh but it's already on my Santas wishlist 🙂
Thanks!
We have thicker walls in the UK! I have a Unifi AC Pro which is next to an outside wall. Inside it's 800Mbps, in the garden on the other side of the wall it's 0. I will happily try the Move but I doubt it will work.
I'm in the U.K. also and in a double brick-built property with a Netgear central router, located nearer to the front of the house and the 'Move' speaker is working fine in the rear garden through one internal wall and one external double wall, at an estimated 40 feet away from the router, if that helps at all?
Had it not have worked, I would have perhaps added a cheap TP-Link 360 WiFi repeater, operating on the same wifi channels, near to rear of the premises.
The rest of my Sonos is still running on SonosNet.
I chose to run the Move on a 2.4ghz signal, rather than the 5ghz.. you do get to choose the WiFi options during initial setup.
I'm in the U.K. also and in a double brick-built property with a Netgear central router, located nearer to the front of the house and the 'Move' speaker is working fine in the rear garden through one internal wall and one external double wall, at an estimated 40 feet away from the router, if that helps at all?
Had it not have worked, I would have perhaps added a cheap TP-Link 360 WiFi repeater, operating on the same wifi channels, near to rear of the premises.
The rest of my Sonos is still running on SonosNet.
I chose to run the Move on a 2.4ghz signal, rather than the 5ghz.. you do get to choose the WiFi options during initial setup.
Thanks. I got a Move today, £340 with eBay discount so couldn't resist. Not tried it in the garden yet though due to the rain.
Why is the plug so big, 7cm from the socket once plugged in!
Thanks. I got a Move today, £340 with eBay discount so couldn't resist. Not tried it in the garden yet though due to the rain.
Why is the plug so big, 7cm from the socket once plugged in!
You had a good buy there.
I agree the charger is quite big isn’t it. I put a double-plug in my power outlet and have the charger vertical, rather than horizontal, plus it leaves room for the socket to be used for something else.
I think I read that the speaker battery takes less than 1hr 30mins to charge to its full state and lasts 10 hours. So that sounds pretty good.
Thanks!
We have thicker walls in the UK! I have a Unifi AC Pro which is next to an outside wall. Inside it's 800Mbps, in the garden on the other side of the wall it's 0. I will happily try the Move but I doubt it will work.I'm in the U.K. also and in a double brick-built property with a Netgear central router, located nearer to the front of the house and the 'Move' speaker is working fine in the rear garden through one internal wall and one external double wall, at an estimated 40 feet away from the router, if that helps at all?
I just walked mine to the end of my garden approx 100 feet from the router and a few walls in between. It worked for a while before cutting but even that impressed me. I'm getting consistent connection though as above, with it staying connected at approx 40-50 feet way.
Cheers
@Ryan S - are there any accessories coming out? I need some sort of shelf/wall mount
@Ryan S - are there any accessories coming out? I need some sort of shelf/wall mount
There will be some things coming out for the Move, but we haven't specifically announced what yet, so I'll the best I can give you a generic "Yes." I'll make sure the team knows there's interest in a shelf or wall mount though.
And of course, if an accessory you're looking for doesn't come out with the first batch, there may always be more to come. Perhaps one of the other companies out there that makes Sonos accessories will see a gap and decide to build something to fill it.
Do we know if the power cable is rated for in-wall use? It's going depend on local codes, but i would think at 20V, that it would be.
