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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    1377 replies

    Enthusiast I
    January 21, 2020

    I can't hide my dissapointment that such an expensive investment is pretty much marked as obsolete within 5 years unless I remove or replace 3 components albeit at 30% discount. It's not even like I can guarantee continued usage of the system 'as is', as there is clear indication that at some point a change made by a streaming service could render the system redundant.

    January 21, 2020

     

     You can continue to use what you have till it dies or doesn’t work with your streaming services anymore.    You just can’t expand your system.  This fits what a lot of people wanted when the CR100 incident happened.    

     

    As long as there is a solid way of ensuring that legacy products in a mixed system don’t get bricked inadvertently, I am actually quite happy to see the end of upgrades that have done very little for my use case that includes streaming services. I also doubt that any that got off the upgrade train in the past for various reasons have lost the use of their systems because of anything the streaming services have done.

    I also have no plans for expansion, and given the many more choices there are now compared to 2011 when I bought into Sonos, when any Sonos hardware dies, its replacement need not now have to be Sonos. In fact, this event now means that it CANNOT be Sonos, and I don’t lose sleep over that either. Nor do I hold a grudge against Sonos for that; life goes on, with or without Sonos. Or more correctly, with and without.

    So this does not bother me all that much, once I am satisfied that accidental bricking of legacy products can be avoided.

    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    Adding more features and not being able to use them is one thing. 

     

    However, let’s hope no current features are removed, especially streaming services. 

    Don’t want to hear come May “We are changing the way we integrate Tidal/Soundcloud/Qobuz and you will only be able to use this with the latest software version. This means if you have legacy products you will have to upgrade to new kit.”

     

     

    If Tidal/Soundcloud/Qobuz changes their interface codec/security/etc. and your Sonos firmware is frozen at the old version, it means Tidal/Soundcloud/Qobuz will cease working.  Nothing can be done about that.

     

    I know. 

     

    Not great for those who bought a load of Connects last year though is it?

     

     

    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    As a long time Sonos customer with many “legacy” components I’m concerned Sonos will decide to brick said hardware under the premise of software update future.  If I don’t want the new hardware and can live w/o new fancy software updates then leave my hardware alone.  Want me to upgrade / buy new hardware, think of a different sales tactic.

     

    Thanks. Rant over.

    Renowned Enthusiast I
    January 21, 2020

    .  I must admit I didn’t expect Connects sold as recently as 2015 to go at this point though.

     

    Also Play5 Gen1.

    Gen2 was announced September 2015.

    5 year window for updates for late adopters, feel bad for these people.

    Ryan S
    Ryan SAuthor
    Retired Sonos Staff
    January 21, 2020

    @jeegnesh, I merged your post here to this main thread since we’ve got your answer posted in here already.

    Mark good posts by pressing the like button, and select the best answer on questions you've asked to help others find solutions.
    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    This is too technical for me, so will all my Sonos stuff stop working having spent £000’s on it ? Got it all about 8/9 years ago. play 1’s, play 5’s ? Will this lot be gathering dust soon as dead items? If so I’ll be pretty cheesed off. And no I don’t want to upgrade with 30% discount, I can’t afford it and spend more money to be on same situation in a few years time? 

    jgatie
    January 21, 2020

     

    I know. 

     

    Not great for those who bought a load of Connects last year though is it?

     

    Connects bought last year are unaffected.

     

    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Just received notification that my perfectly good gen 1 Sonos 5 (2 of them) will not be receiving update support etc.

    I do not recollect any statement by your company that there would be time limited support for my very expensive purchase. Totally pissed off by your company especially as the 30% discount on new hardware is irrelevant. My speakers work perfectly, they provide exactly what I need, the quality is superb and you are suggesting that, over time, they will be worthless, not because they do not function properly but because your company will not provide the necessary support.

    How can this be legal?

    If and when they do fail I personally promise that I will NOT replace them with any type of Sonos product.

    You have let your most important customers down. The early adopters gave your company the chance to flourish but right now I hope this policy of imposing obsolescence destroys it. 

    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    This is NUTS!  You want me to replace 16 devices?  You are only offering a 30% discount?  See how I am affected.  I am livid!  I obviously have been a HUGE supporter and now you do this?

     

     

     

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