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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Enthusiast I
    January 21, 2020

    I am so disappointed in Sonos right now - you’re effectively putting more than half our 6 zone system on notice of death. This is including a more recent 5.1 surround setup we use in our living room.

    I’m so surprised that as a company you have taken this route. I can only imagine now that anything currently being released is also on a “limited functionality” timeline too. 

    What happens when the Sonos mobile app updates, what happens when Alexa skills update. Does that leave our kit isolated...

    It wouldn’t be so bad if the product was being sold at a throw-away price, but it’s not. It’s at a premium and therefore I would have expected it all to be supported going forwards.

    Who ever is responsible for the software engineering at Sonos really needs to look into breaking this “everything must upgrade” at the same time policy otherwise we need to freeze it all.

    I think this finally signals the end of any expansion plans we had with Sonos kit.

    I also suspect quite a lot of people will be off to investigate the Alexa and Google Home device range which proclaims “support” for multi-home sound systems at a fraction of the cost. I doubt they’ll be better but there sold at a price point where replacing the kit every few years isn’t as painful as what’s been suggested here.

     

    :sweat:

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    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    I am absolutely fuming about this.  A 30% discount offering as a solution to upgrade is another slap in the face.  Why would anyone commit to buying more Sonos equipment which could be obsolete and unsupported within 5 years? I thought losing the controller was a joke but this takes decision takes Sonos customer relations to another level.  Very very disappointed and will make damn sure I will buy nothing from this company ever again.  This needs splashing all over social media by everyone affected.  

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    User811083
    Trending Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    WARNING: John Lewis here in the UK are still selling Play5 units for £449.00 and Play5s in pairs for £898.00. Surely this is an illegal activity given that these units will no longer be supported in a matter of weeks?

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    Chris Blackwell
    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    I am outraged that Sonos is going to stop support for the “legacy” products.  That is insane.  I have invested thousands of dollars building my whole home system.  This is incredibly bad business practice.  Pulling the rug out from loyal customers.  Outrageous.  If I were closer, I would picket your offices.

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I smell a class action lawsuit. You can’t purposely “legacy” someone’s property and make it inoperable, forcing them to buy again.

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I’m a long term customer and was an early adopter. I bought my kit in the U.K. (I’m British). But I moved to Singapore for my job a couple of years ago. What do I do about my legacy kit? Can I trade up from here? Or am I now stumped?  

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    Avid Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    I have £1500 to spend (after the 30% discount) if I want to stay modern. Not particularly happy, especially after the way Sonos tried to pretend ‘Traded Up’ equipment would be ‘recycled’ just a couple of months ago.

    I would be fine just to stay where I am with what I have, but there are few things that make me wary:

    • The title of the email I just received is “Your system requires attention” - that doesn’t exactly suggest things are fine
    • The first paragraph of that email ends with “This will affect your listening experience” - again that explicitly suggests things are not fine unless I do something (spend money) right now
    • The fact that no one can say when streaming services will stop being compatible with the non-upgraded equipment. I know this is somewhat out of Sonos’ hands as its down to when those services update their APIs. However, as others have suggested I don’t see why Sonos can’t keep two branches of the firmware going to avoid this concern
    • Not knowing when the Trade Up offer will end - if I leave things as they are will it still be there when, down the line, things stop working and I’m forced to upgrade
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    January 21, 2020

    Sonos better make sure they get the "Frozen System" malarky right or they are going to experience the wrath of their unusually faithful customer base.

    I expect to see every service and function that was available to me on the date of "Freezing" still available to me on the day after. I'm not interested in new features. I just want it working.

     

    Well said and I echo it fully:slight_smile:

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    SteveC2017
    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    I have a Quad amplifier FM Radio and Pre AMP I purchased when I was 20 - over 40 years ago and guess what - l can still use these and the sound quality is better than SONOS. I always wondered if SONOS would put shareholder value above customer support and it appears my fears are being realised. If I cannot use my £2000 investment in SONOS in the future so be it - I have little choice in this matter - but I do have a choice on what to buy as a replacement and it will not be a good day for SONOS - I will not be buying anymore of this hardware in future in the light of this hardware revelation and other recent announcements - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50948868

    Also read this https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44392280

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    SJC
    Renowned Enthusiast I
    January 21, 2020

    WARNING: John Lewis here in the UK are still selling Play5 units for £449.00 and Play5s in pairs for £898.00. Surely this is an illegal activity given that these units will no longer be supported in a matter of weeks?

    Only gen1 will be unsupported. Are these Gen2?

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