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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    Me too - 7 (seven) pieces of my hardware are about to be  dumped. I can get 30% off the next bit of their  hardware….. don’t think I’ll be bothering with sonos anymore. Absolutely shit service. I am speechless.

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Hmm.  I also have two Gen 1 Sonos 5’s  and a 3.  I can listen via headphones with them (the 5’s) but you can’t do the same with the second generation, strangely.  Just received my email too and am also most disappointed in the company.  I bought a Gen 1 Sonos 5 for my son, for the same reason - can listen to quality sound without affecting others.  This considerable investment now appears under threat.  The first stage of the programme has now been implemented.  Be prepared for the next, which will probably render our equipment inoperable!

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    I have three Play5 units. The most recent one is only 6 years old. They were all very expensive.

    And now I learn that they are considered out of date and that ideally I should junk them and buy newer Sonos items that don't do anything extra that I want and that are even more expensive than the ones I already own.

    And then presumably 5 or so years down the line I will get another email advising me to bin whatever “upgrades” I bought this year because they too are out of date.

    Well, don't hold your breath.

     

    I think that Sonos have been taking lessons from Apple, and that’s another company whose products I would never buy for exactly the same reasons.

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    January 21, 2020

    I also have no plans for expansion ...

    So this does not bother me all that much, once I am satisfied that accidental bricking of legacy products can be avoided.

    Good for you. However, there are lots of people who have evolving Sonos systems in which they’re adding devices. 

    I know; and of these people, those that get to know of this event are going to find that their decision has become more complex.

    The case for getting legacy styled “dumb” stereo kit and adding cheap Echo Dots interfaces to it, that can be thrown away every few years, just got better. Sonos needs much higher up front investments, and their messaging in support of that has in turn immediately become more of a challenge.

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Yup - me too and not pleased! We have been loyal Sonos subscribers since the very beginning. We have everything form the original wired amp through add on speakers and the whole tv surround system I have loved Sonos and been willing to pay a premium for their products because I felt they supported building a system with their products. There has never been any communication that there was a risk that they would stop supporting the products that now represent a big investment for us. Funnily enough, I filled out a survey for them last week and I commented that their integration of new products to existing is the main reason we have loved them. Now I wish I could redo the survey! I am amazed they are doing this as it forces me to rethink my needs for something that I have been blindly loyal to since roughly 2002-3. 

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    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    I never post on forums but want to add my voice here.  This will cost me 3 play 5 and a new amp.  I’m not impressed and agree with earlier commentators that the bandwidth for streaming is not changing significantly so what’s the problem.

    Very disappointed.

     

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    Avid Contributor II
    January 21, 2020

    @Ryan S All my hardware (2xPlay:1+Sub, 2xPlay:5(gen1), Connect:Amp, Bridge) will be impacted by this move.  They’re running the latest firmware (10.6.1).  Say I buy another piece of hardware which comes with firmware v11 installed.  What will happen?  Will it effectively be a brick (because it’s on different firmware to the rest of my equipment) until I’ve removed “old” hardware from my system (i.e. dumped my entire setup so I’m back down to this single new piece of hardware)? 

    Thanks

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    @morgan4x4, if all of those devices are legacy devices, your system will continue to function as it does today once the update happens in May. The only change is that your Sonos system will no longer receive software updates. Your experience will initially remain the same.  However, the functionality of features and services will be impacted as technology, particularly music service and voice partners, evolves over time. If

    So $7,499 MSRP to replace all my “legacy” kit!

     

    $5,239.50 with your generous discount for me to stay current.  
     

    are you sure this is the direction you want to take with your firm?

     

    social media is a witch when thousands of angry customers take their message public.

     

    Given all the competitive alternatives out there, I am astonished this is the way you want to go.

     

    richard

     

     

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    Trending Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Lot of outrage here.  Justifiably.  Any lawyers out there with a view on the legality of this?

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I can’t believe I actually recommended your products for years.  What a chump.  Now, everyone who took my advice and spent A LOT of MONEY on your products, including myself, will eventually be left with a worthless pile of components.  Also, thanks for killing the resale market for all of us.  I literally did certain renovations in my house to fully integrate my SONOS system!

    How can anyone trust that SONOS as a company won’t just turn around and stop supporting their new products whenever you decide you no longer want to support them or need to goose product sales?  You do realize that this cannot be perceived as anything other than a craven money grab from people who are your oldest and strongest supporters, right?

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