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Caroline V.
Retired Community Manager
Aug 1, 2022 3:36 PM UTC

14.12 Update

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Changes to volume mapping and impact on Sub output

 

Thank you for your feedback regarding the recent 14.12 software update with Enhanced Clarity for Arc. 

 

In this update, we made a change to Arc’s audio profile to improve dialogue clarity and the overall sound experience. This change is based on feedback from our listeners in the field and brings Arc in line with our other Home Theater products, resulting in a more accurate representation of the sound as intended by the content creator. 

 

The updated tuning adjusts the spectral balance of Arc+Sub to achieve a more accurate representation of the sound and an improved sound experience. While the Arc+Sub output capability remains the same,  the mapping of volume across the 0-100% range has been adjusted with this release which means low and mid volume levels are relatively lower compared to the previous tuning so you may need to adjust the volume slider to achieve your pre-update volume level. The maximum volume and bass output are unchanged. We acknowledge that this change was not made more clear in the release notes and in the future we’ll be sure to make sure we communicate these rare changes more effectively. 

 

Please note, we have identified an issue for some users of Arc, Beam and Ray whose configuration includes a Sub (with or without surrounds), who may find their Sub output is lower than desired after performing a new Trueplay tuning. 

 

Users with Beam or Ray bonded with Sub can increase the Sub level for a more powerful low-end response, however this won’t have the same impact for Arc users. Customers using Arc bonded with a Sub (and/or surrounds) who find their Sub output is lower than desired following performing a new Trueplay tuning, should temporarily disable Trueplay on Arc until this is addressed by an upcoming software update. 

 

Trueplay tunings for Home Theater configurations without a bonded Sub are unaffected, including standalone soundbars and those bonded with surrounds only.   

 


 

If you would like any assistance adjusting the sound of your Home Theater setup, the community is here to help. You can also contact Sonos support.

 

Moderation edit:

With the 14.18 software update, the above mentioned issues have been addressed, and the Enhanced Clarity for Arc adjustments are retained. There was a clear preference within our community for the previous volume settings, and these have been restored. This will be apparent immediately after updating to 14.18. The Trueplay issue has been fixed. Customers who experienced a lower Sub level after performing Trueplay after updating to 14.12 will need to update their systems and then perform a new Trueplay tuning in order to address these improvements in their system. Customers will hear a more powerful low end response, meaning any Sub level adjustments made after 14.12 should no longer be required.

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Aug 11, 2022 2:36 AM UTC

 

Last night I watched a couple of episodes of S4 Stranger Things (Netflix ATMOS) and had to turn the Sub down, was on +2, now on 0.

 

Your decision to let the new sound profile settle down to be the new and acceptable normal seems to have worked for you?

It usually does for tweaks, but in this case there seems to be so much sound and fury from so many, that this may not be enough for all, but even so, there is nothing lost in giving this a whirl for such of those that are waiting for a change.

And when that change happens, I suppose you will have do your thing all over again!

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Enthusiast I
Aug 11, 2022 11:45 AM UTC

Changes to volume mapping and impact on Sub output

 

Thank you for your feedback regarding the recent 14.12 software update with Enhanced Clarity for Arc. 

 

In this update, we made a change to Arc’s audio profile to improve dialogue clarity and the overall sound experience. This change is based on feedback from our listeners in the field and brings Arc in line with our other Home Theater products, resulting in a more accurate representation of the sound as intended by the content creator. 

 

The updated tuning adjusts the spectral balance of Arc+Sub to achieve a more accurate representation of the sound and an improved sound experience. While the Arc+Sub output capability remains the same,  the mapping of volume across the 0-100% range has been adjusted with this release which means low and mid volume levels are relatively lower compared to the previous tuning so you may need to adjust the volume slider to achieve your pre-update volume level. The maximum volume and bass output are unchanged. We acknowledge that this change was not made more clear in the release notes and in the future we’ll be sure to make sure we communicate these rare changes more effectively. 

 

Please note, we have identified an issue for some users of Arc, Beam and Ray whose configuration includes a Sub (with or without surrounds), who may find their Sub output is lower than desired after performing a new Trueplay tuning. 

 

Users with Beam or Ray bonded with Sub can increase the Sub level for a more powerful low-end response, however this won’t have the same impact for Arc users. Customers using Arc bonded with a Sub (and/or surrounds) who find their Sub output is lower than desired following performing a new Trueplay tuning, should temporarily disable Trueplay on Arc until this is addressed by an upcoming software update. 

 

Trueplay tunings for Home Theater configurations without a bonded Sub are unaffected, including standalone soundbars and those bonded with surrounds only.   

 

 

If you would like any assistance adjusting the sound of your Home Theater setup, the community is here to help. You can also contact Sonos support.

 

 

Any dates on when we can expect this “upcoming software update”? My sub is terrible since this update, to the point I can’t even tell if its on or off

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Local Superstar
Aug 11, 2022 1:14 PM UTC

 

Any dates on when we can expect this “upcoming software update”? 

Not 100% sure, but I would say we are one day closer today than we were yesterday.

 

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Enthusiast II
Aug 11, 2022 2:30 PM UTC

Changes to volume mapping and impact on Sub output

 

Thank you for your feedback regarding the recent 14.12 software update with Enhanced Clarity for Arc. 

 

In this update, we made a change to Arc’s audio profile to improve dialogue clarity and the overall sound experience. This change is based on feedback from our listeners in the field and brings Arc in line with our other Home Theater products, resulting in a more accurate representation of the sound as intended by the content creator. 

 

The updated tuning adjusts the spectral balance of Arc+Sub to achieve a more accurate representation of the sound and an improved sound experience. While the Arc+Sub output capability remains the same,  the mapping of volume across the 0-100% range has been adjusted with this release which means low and mid volume levels are relatively lower compared to the previous tuning so you may need to adjust the volume slider to achieve your pre-update volume level. The maximum volume and bass output are unchanged. We acknowledge that this change was not made more clear in the release notes and in the future we’ll be sure to make sure we communicate these rare changes more effectively. 

 

Please note, we have identified an issue for some users of Arc, Beam and Ray whose configuration includes a Sub (with or without surrounds), who may find their Sub output is lower than desired after performing a new Trueplay tuning. 

 

Users with Beam or Ray bonded with Sub can increase the Sub level for a more powerful low-end response, however this won’t have the same impact for Arc users. Customers using Arc bonded with a Sub (and/or surrounds) who find their Sub output is lower than desired following performing a new Trueplay tuning, should temporarily disable Trueplay on Arc until this is addressed by an upcoming software update. 

 

Trueplay tunings for Home Theater configurations without a bonded Sub are unaffected, including standalone soundbars and those bonded with surrounds only.   

 

 

If you would like any assistance adjusting the sound of your Home Theater setup, the community is here to help. You can also contact Sonos support.

 

 

Any dates on when we can expect this “upcoming software update”? My sub is terrible since this update, to the point I can’t even tell if its on or off

It’s only been 3 weeks so we’re not miserable enough. Give them another month.

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Trending Lyricist I
Aug 11, 2022 5:33 PM UTC

Not sure if anyone with strong views (either positive or negative) on the 4.12 update will find this useful. 

https://www.sonos.com/en-gb/reviews/consumer

 

Hopefully “we welcome” doesn’t mean excluding a post like this from the community forum, but I haven’t actually dissected the forum rules in detail, so apologies to all forum users if posting this link is not welcome.

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Local Superstar
Aug 12, 2022 8:15 AM UTC

 

Last night I watched a couple of episodes of S4 Stranger Things (Netflix ATMOS) and had to turn the Sub down, was on +2, now on 0.

 

Your decision to let the new sound profile settle down to be the new and acceptable normal seems to have worked for you?

Yes, and I was curious why. My listening ‘profile’ is the Arc+Sub is connected to TV via eARC, broadcast TV and streaming services sources. I don’t listen to music on the Arc.

I had the Sonos App open, and looked at format. Netflix is DD 5.1 or ATMOS, and when watching Broadcast Freeview HD from TV the format appears as ‘Dolby Multichannel PCM 2.0’, all of these sound fine, volume levels OK, and plenty of bass etc.

In the interest of science, I changed to BB1 SD from the HD service, this changed the sound to ‘Stereo PCM’ and I heard a significant volume drop.

So, I’m surmising that because I don’t listen to (or very rarely)  ‘Stereo PCM’ through the Arc, I have not been as affected as others by this DSP change, using a ‘Stereo PCM’ format from their source?

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Aug 12, 2022 10:05 AM UTC

Possible, but unlikely. Why would many want to use the lower grade format?

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Lyricist III
Aug 12, 2022 2:26 PM UTC

Hey Sonos, just in case you aren't getting the message and think that it's only a minority of users unhappy with the 14.12 update. Here is a real live survey from a Sonos Users Social Media group. To date (out of 229 votes) 77 (33%) people say 14.12 made the sound worst, 79 (34%) people say it made no difference, and 45 (19%, THE MINORITY) people say it sounds better. 

 

Almost the majority of people in this data set think 14.12 made it sound worst. If you combine those unaffected with the disgruntled, that's 67% of this data set either see no difference or are unhappy with inferior sound. This data set suggests a truly unsuccessful update. The numbers don't lie!

The. People. Have. Spoken.

 

Also, I'll add for context: Thinking the 14.12 update made the sound worst "is not" the popular opinion to have in this referenced social media group where this poll was taken.

 

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Local Superstar
Aug 12, 2022 2:56 PM UTC

To date (out of 229 votes) 77 (33%) people say 14.12 made the sound worst, 79 (34%) people say it made no difference, and 45 (19%, THE MINORITY) people say it sounds better. 

Or you could interpret your results as 33% say its worse, therefore the other 67% (majority) think it sounds better, the same, or don’t care.

 

 

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Lyricist III
Aug 12, 2022 2:59 PM UTC

To date (out of 229 votes) 77 (33%) people say 14.12 made the sound worst, 79 (34%) people say it made no difference, and 45 (19%, THE MINORITY) people say it sounds better. 

Or you could interpret your results as 33% say its worse, therefore the other 67% (majority) think it sounds better, the same, or don’t care.

 

 

Not my results. Not my survey. Just an observation.

No matter how you slice it, 33% of users saying it sounds worse isn't a successful roll out.

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