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Caroline V.
Retired Community Manager
Aug 1, 2022 3:36 PM UTC

14.12 Update

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Changes to volume mapping and impact on Sub output

 

Thank you for your feedback regarding the recent 14.12 software update with Enhanced Clarity for Arc. 

 

In this update, we made a change to Arc’s audio profile to improve dialogue clarity and the overall sound experience. This change is based on feedback from our listeners in the field and brings Arc in line with our other Home Theater products, resulting in a more accurate representation of the sound as intended by the content creator. 

 

The updated tuning adjusts the spectral balance of Arc+Sub to achieve a more accurate representation of the sound and an improved sound experience. While the Arc+Sub output capability remains the same,  the mapping of volume across the 0-100% range has been adjusted with this release which means low and mid volume levels are relatively lower compared to the previous tuning so you may need to adjust the volume slider to achieve your pre-update volume level. The maximum volume and bass output are unchanged. We acknowledge that this change was not made more clear in the release notes and in the future we’ll be sure to make sure we communicate these rare changes more effectively. 

 

Please note, we have identified an issue for some users of Arc, Beam and Ray whose configuration includes a Sub (with or without surrounds), who may find their Sub output is lower than desired after performing a new Trueplay tuning. 

 

Users with Beam or Ray bonded with Sub can increase the Sub level for a more powerful low-end response, however this won’t have the same impact for Arc users. Customers using Arc bonded with a Sub (and/or surrounds) who find their Sub output is lower than desired following performing a new Trueplay tuning, should temporarily disable Trueplay on Arc until this is addressed by an upcoming software update. 

 

Trueplay tunings for Home Theater configurations without a bonded Sub are unaffected, including standalone soundbars and those bonded with surrounds only.   

 


 

If you would like any assistance adjusting the sound of your Home Theater setup, the community is here to help. You can also contact Sonos support.

 

Moderation edit:

With the 14.18 software update, the above mentioned issues have been addressed, and the Enhanced Clarity for Arc adjustments are retained. There was a clear preference within our community for the previous volume settings, and these have been restored. This will be apparent immediately after updating to 14.18. The Trueplay issue has been fixed. Customers who experienced a lower Sub level after performing Trueplay after updating to 14.12 will need to update their systems and then perform a new Trueplay tuning in order to address these improvements in their system. Customers will hear a more powerful low end response, meaning any Sub level adjustments made after 14.12 should no longer be required.

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Enthusiast II
Aug 9, 2022 7:52 PM UTC

Lets all send our complaints and demands to the CEO of Sonos! in the best of cases, he’s running at least one arc-sub-combo and noticed it too 😄

 

patrick.spence@sonos.com

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Dogdad
Headliner III
Aug 9, 2022 9:40 PM UTC

Lets all send our complaints and demands to the CEO of Sonos! in the best of cases, he’s running at least one arc-sub-combo and noticed it too 😄

 

patrick.spence@sonos.com

If you think your email goes directly to him..you’re kidding yourself. When would a CEO  have all those emails sent to him. They go to customer reps that will email you back. 

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Aug 10, 2022 1:03 AM UTC

If you think your email goes directly to him..you’re kidding yourself. When would a CEO  have all those emails sent to him. They go to customer reps that will email you back. 

Generally true, but not necessarily. I have once had the CEO of an Indian auto major, Tata Motors, email me back in less than a hour with a one liner directing me to someone in his staff where I could have my issue looked at, and when that happens via a cc to said staff, things happen, pretty damn quick. Even though a major force then, in 2013, after the acquisition of Jaguar Land-rover, the company was languishing in India market share. It is today the second biggest in auto market share in India - GM and Ford have both surrendered and quit the market - and customer responsiveness over a consistent long term horizon is the secret to the Tata turnaround in India.

In the case of Sonos as well I have had email exchanges with Spence back in 2017/18 about things like a Sonos entry into the Indian market, and even things like a line in for the play 1 as a missed opportunity. He did not think so where the line in was concerned, but spent the five minutes setting out reasons in a mail. And since I have communicated extensively with different CEOs, I can recognise the voice of one and that of a fill in.

The one time he did not respond was in March 2020, when I wrote to him about the blunder Sonos was making in not pulling back their bricking policy.  He must have been swamped at that time - and Sonos did do a full about face on that specific issue soon thereafter. Now I take zero credit for that, because there must have been a storm of advice he must have been receiving on the same lines, but what I wrote may even have had an infinitesimally small effect, who can tell? For sure it cannot have hurt.

If Sonos has a generic CEO email address, he almost certainly will not actually read each mail there, but get synopses from time to time. My emails were to the address cited above in this thread.

For such addresses, common CEO practice is to have an experienced executive assistant with an access to his/her personal corporate email inbox scan every email, send rants and threats to junk/security directly, divert what look like useful/urgent ones to relevant staff, and leave the ones the man needs to himself read, untouched in the inbox. For the CEO to reply if he thinks one is needed, internally or externally.

The aforesaid may help someone that wants to reach out to him to effectively do so, even if no reply may come. But it can’t hurt.

In this case, the chances though are that there is little an email can inform him that he does not already know. 

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Enthusiast II
Aug 10, 2022 4:40 AM UTC

ARC + SUB + 2 Ones as surround.
Same problem as almost everyone else.

Low volume on Arc, terrible Bass from the Sub!


Please fix this! NOT HAPPY AT ALL!

I have a similar setup, volume from ARC was better after I ran Trueplay, however SUB output is very low. I got my setup post the 14.12 update so I am not sure how the ARC sounded before the update. I suggest you also tune with Trueplay once and later disable it.

 

Hi! Yes I did that but still same problem :/

 

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Virtuoso
Aug 10, 2022 7:12 AM UTC

Someone mentioned having the "new" profile active when Speech Enhancement is ON and the 14.10 Profile active when Speech Enhancement OFF, this to me would sound like a solution to please everyone.

 

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Lyricist III
Aug 10, 2022 8:23 AM UTC

Someone mentioned having the "new" profile active when Speech Enhancement is ON and the 14.10 Profile active when Speech Enhancement OFF, this to me would sound like a solution to please everyone.

 

Do u mean 14.12 is active when speech enhancement is off ?

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Enthusiast II
Aug 10, 2022 9:28 AM UTC

Someone mentioned having the "new" profile active when Speech Enhancement is ON and the 14.10 Profile active when Speech Enhancement OFF, this to me would sound like a solution to please everyone.

 

Do u mean 14.12 is active when speech enhancement is off ?

On. Basically give us back 14.10 profile (incl. original higher volume) as default and then embed the 14.12 profile into the speech enhancement. This would absolutely solve it.

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Enthusiast I
Aug 10, 2022 11:37 AM UTC

Watched some Breaking Bad last night, all dialogue with no music or effects.

The Arc was dreadful. It kept jumping in and out of some kind of DSP dialogue mode. So a few seconds of tinny metallic voice sounding like a tiny transistor radio from the seventies, then the mode would go and you get a warm voice with midhbass sounding very natural but just for a second or two. Then it would detect voice again, switch the DSP and go metallic, thin and tinny.

 

I will soon swap the Arc for the Beam that's on the secondary TV if Sonos don't reverse this.

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Ken_Griffiths
Aug 10, 2022 11:51 AM UTC

Watched some Breaking Bad last night, all dialogue with no music or effects.

The Arc was dreadful. It kept jumping in and out of some kind of DSP dialogue mode. So a few seconds of tinny metallic voice sounding like a tiny transistor radio from the seventies, then the mode would go and you get a warm voice with midhbass sounding very natural but just for a second or two. Then it would detect voice again, switch the DSP and go metallic, thin and tinny.

 

I will soon swap the Arc for the Beam that's on the secondary TV if Sonos don't reverse this.

That is certainly not my experience when listening to ‘breaking bad’ via an Arc/Surrounds/Sub here a few moments ago. It sounds like you may have something else that’s faulty - I would perhaps submit a system diagnostic and contact Sonos Support Staff via this LINK and see what they can discover.

Perhaps report back on what the Staff say.

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Local Superstar
Aug 10, 2022 5:20 PM UTC

 

I will also say that prior to this recent update, some users in the community here, had put forward a feature-request to Sonos to allow adjustment to their HT center channel volume to help increase clarity of dialogue and I see Peter Pee mentions that option too - I also like that idea, but obviously there maybe technical reasons why this has not been part of the recent solution. That’s perhaps a matter for Sonos to consider.

I’m thinking (maybe incorrectly, time will tell) the 14.12 changed the DSP and TruePlay on Arc (why else would you have to reTruePlay?), and this is the ‘enabler’ for these types of features in the future, ie they had to change the way the DSP works, before they can add these features that are being requested.

Last night I watched a couple of episodes of S4 Stranger Things (Netflix ATMOS) and had to turn the Sub down, was on +2, now on 0.

 

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