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  • August 1, 2022
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  • September 20, 2022

Well……..no update

So I guess Sonos cares more about new customers then old ones. 

 

This whole sorry epioside leads me to believe they don't care about any customers.


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  • Enthusiast I
  • September 20, 2022

Ok, then I hope I can swallow my words later today.


James L.
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  • Retired Community Staff
  • September 20, 2022

Hi all,

Later today there will be a software release and whilst we have been working to deliver the fix you have been waiting for, it’s not ready yet.

We understand that it’s disappointing that this has not yet been resolved.

We can assure you that we’re working on making sure the Sub performs as it’s expected, and we’ll let you know as soon as there is any news.


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  • Enthusiast I
  • September 20, 2022

James,

Thank you for the communication.

 

Is it not possible to revert the Arc and Sub combo to the software that you already have that is known to work?


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  • Avid Contributor I
  • September 20, 2022

Hi all,

Later today there will be a software release and whilst we have been working to deliver the fix you have been waiting for, it’s not ready yet.

We understand that it’s disappointing that this has not yet been resolved.

We can assure you that we’re working on making sure the Sub performs as it’s expected, and we’ll let you know as soon as there is any news.

 

WOW!  This is quite amazing.  Given the track record of 1 update per month, people will have to wait until the 3rd week in October I guess.  Just Wow.  


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  • Lyricist III
  • September 20, 2022

It’s totally clear now,
Sub mini killed the ARC and his bigger brother!

No futher comments needed...


skullc
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  • Prodigy III
  • September 20, 2022

Like I said this is the new signature sound....


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  • Enthusiast II
  • September 20, 2022

Hi all,

Later today there will be a software release and whilst we have been working to deliver the fix you have been waiting for, it’s not ready yet.

We understand that it’s disappointing that this has not yet been resolved.

We can assure you that we’re working on making sure the Sub performs as it’s expected, and we’ll let you know as soon as there is any news.

I know I said that I have zero expectations from you, but damn, you just never cease to amaze me.

Keep up the good work! 


  • Lyricist I
  • September 20, 2022

Please give us the opportunity to go back to 14.10 until you have a fix. It isn’t acceptable that we have to wait this long for a fix! 


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  • Avid Contributor I
  • September 20, 2022

Please give us the opportunity to go back to 14.10 until you have a fix. It isn’t acceptable that we have to wait this long for a fix! 

I’m afraid that’s simply too logical


  • Lyricist I
  • September 20, 2022

Please give us the opportunity to go back to 14.10 until you have a fix. It isn’t acceptable that we have to wait this long for a fix! 

I’m afraid that’s simply too logical

2,5 months with a ruined system isn’t acceptable.

We all have paid a lot of money for our systems. Sonos ruined our sound with their update (and admitted this). 


I really believe they are working on a fix, but you can’t tell me it will take this long. I just don’t think it has their top priority.

If it had top priority, it would have been fixed weeks ago already.


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  • Trending Lyricist I
  • September 20, 2022

Hi all,

Later today there will be a software release and whilst we have been working to deliver the fix you have been waiting for, it’s not ready yet.

We understand that it’s disappointing that this has not yet been resolved.

We can assure you that we’re working on making sure the Sub performs as it’s expected, and we’ll let you know as soon as there is any news.

You make it sound like it's just a problem with the sub, the sound signature has been changed and ruined on the Arc, is that going to be fixed/rolled back to actually sound like the product I paid for ? I find it totally unexpectedle that I no longer have the product I paid for, surely software updates should never change the sound signature, if I wanted my soundbar to sound like voices were coming from a gramophone horn and no wide soundstage I would of paid under £100 and expected no more, however I paid £800+ for one that I took the time to listen to and liked the sound of, stupidly I then went on to buying 2 one sl’s, a sub G3 and a beam 2 I now very much regret that.. I no longer have the product I paid for or the confidence in this company. Please can you inform us if the sound signature of the Arc is going to be returned to pre 14.12 update ? 


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  • Lyricist III
  • September 20, 2022

This company simply updated their most expensive product in a flawed manner. Unbelievable.


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  • Enthusiast II
  • September 20, 2022

HOW!?!

omg this is crazy! Im speechless!!!

I Will never EVER buy another product from

you!

 

I Will not recommend you to Anyone!!!

You are losing alot of customers now worldwide!


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  • Enthusiast II
  • September 20, 2022

HOW!?!

omg this is crazy! Im speechless!!!

I Will never EVER buy another product from

you!

 

I Will not recommend you to Anyone!!!

You are losing alot of customers now worldwide!

Nothing left for us to do except for spreading the word as much as possible and warn everyone to stay away from this company like their lives depend on it.


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  • Enthusiast I
  • September 20, 2022

Hi all,

Later today there will be a software release and whilst we have been working to deliver the fix you have been waiting for, it’s not ready yet.

We understand that it’s disappointing that this has not yet been resolved.

We can assure you that we’re working on making sure the Sub performs as it’s expected, and we’ll let you know as soon as there is any news.

Well, I guess I was right.

Sonos cares more about it's new customers then it's current ones. They basically killed their sub to sell their sub mini.


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  • Lyricist III
  • September 20, 2022

I will not update today, things may become even worster. I can expect everything from them and dont want to play sonos casino ...


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  • Producer I
  • September 20, 2022

2 months since 14.12 and no fix. And in the best case the fix will come at 3 months with how Sonos introduces software updates. 

 

Sonos themselves acknowledged the issue on 1 August and as of 20 September the only update we have is “we are working on it, don’t really know when we’ll find the solution”.

 

Seriously that’s just bad customer service. And I actually thought that was one of Sonos’ strong points.

 

I think they are trying to do something that satisfies everyone, they want to fix the issue for the people that don’t like 14.12 and later but also don’t want to go back to the complaints that they received that made them introduce the “enhanced clarity” of 14.12. 

 

From my experience when you try to satisfy everyone you satisfy no-one. I have serious doubts at this point that the solution when it finally arrives will be satisfactory to any people following this forum.

 


  • Lyricist I
  • September 20, 2022

OMG!!!! 3 Months!! I spend more than 2000€ for nothing!!!!


  • Lyricist I
  • September 20, 2022

Hi all,

Later today there will be a software release and whilst we have been working to deliver the fix you have been waiting for, it’s not ready yet.

We understand that it’s disappointing that this has not yet been resolved.

We can assure you that we’re working on making sure the Sub performs as it’s expected, and we’ll let you know as soon as there is any news.

As it was mentioned many times in this thread the problem is not only with subtle Sub performance, but also with subtle Arc performance. Now Sonos One SL from my theater setup (Arc+Sub+2xSL) sound better than Arc, even TV speakers sound better than Arc

You pay for Rolls-Royce (Arc), but after one year you wake up (firmware update) and you have only Skoda (Arc mini) and the company says that this is OK: It's Not a Bug, It's a Feature (improvements to the clarity of Arc’s audio while playing dialogue)


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  • Avid Contributor II
  • September 20, 2022

So will sonos make us wait another month for the full release? Really sounds like sonos wants to fix the bug but will make us wait extra time for a fix. 


skullc
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  • Prodigy III
  • September 20, 2022

So will sonos make us wait another month for the full release? Really sounds like sonos wants to fix the bug but will make us wait extra time for a fix. 

I doubt we will ever see a fix that returns the sound signature we had before this is the new signature we may get truplay working again but the arc is now an expensive centre based bar but hey it's got clarity 

At least when I need a hearing aid I won't need it to watch TV...


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  • Avid Contributor I
  • September 20, 2022

I find it ironic that the people most affected are those with the most expensive home theatre configuration. So the people who paid the most are the ones having to wait 3 months for a fix for something they were at fault for actually updating software.

 Bottom line here is…NEVER allow auto updates.  Updating software can make your system worse and have to wait at least 3 months in the hope it might go back to normal.

 

 Wow. just Wow


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  • Avid Contributor I
  • September 20, 2022

I’m amazed this isn’t getting more media attention. I don’t really feel those at the company are in any rush.  Clearly its 5-10min exercise to roll back a software update . Sorry guys but super lame. Don’t think you need 3 months LOL


  • Lyricist II
  • September 20, 2022

Sonos is terrible at solving the situation, I work in a large gaming IT company, and if there is some kind of production incident, it is fixed as soon as possible (few hours to fix or rollback), NOCs can call you even at night and bring you to work. 
I am very surprised how a company that knows how much their products cost, which positions itself as premium, can treat its customers so irresponsibly.

I really regretted that I didn’t buy a top-end soundbar from Samsung instead of Sonos Arc, but I will save my friends, colleagues and acquaintances from buying any Sonos company products.