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Caroline V.
Retired Community Manager
Aug 1, 2022 3:36 PM UTC

14.12 Update

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Changes to volume mapping and impact on Sub output

 

Thank you for your feedback regarding the recent 14.12 software update with Enhanced Clarity for Arc. 

 

In this update, we made a change to Arc’s audio profile to improve dialogue clarity and the overall sound experience. This change is based on feedback from our listeners in the field and brings Arc in line with our other Home Theater products, resulting in a more accurate representation of the sound as intended by the content creator. 

 

The updated tuning adjusts the spectral balance of Arc+Sub to achieve a more accurate representation of the sound and an improved sound experience. While the Arc+Sub output capability remains the same,  the mapping of volume across the 0-100% range has been adjusted with this release which means low and mid volume levels are relatively lower compared to the previous tuning so you may need to adjust the volume slider to achieve your pre-update volume level. The maximum volume and bass output are unchanged. We acknowledge that this change was not made more clear in the release notes and in the future we’ll be sure to make sure we communicate these rare changes more effectively. 

 

Please note, we have identified an issue for some users of Arc, Beam and Ray whose configuration includes a Sub (with or without surrounds), who may find their Sub output is lower than desired after performing a new Trueplay tuning. 

 

Users with Beam or Ray bonded with Sub can increase the Sub level for a more powerful low-end response, however this won’t have the same impact for Arc users. Customers using Arc bonded with a Sub (and/or surrounds) who find their Sub output is lower than desired following performing a new Trueplay tuning, should temporarily disable Trueplay on Arc until this is addressed by an upcoming software update. 

 

Trueplay tunings for Home Theater configurations without a bonded Sub are unaffected, including standalone soundbars and those bonded with surrounds only.   

 


 

If you would like any assistance adjusting the sound of your Home Theater setup, the community is here to help. You can also contact Sonos support.

 

Moderation edit:

With the 14.18 software update, the above mentioned issues have been addressed, and the Enhanced Clarity for Arc adjustments are retained. There was a clear preference within our community for the previous volume settings, and these have been restored. This will be apparent immediately after updating to 14.18. The Trueplay issue has been fixed. Customers who experienced a lower Sub level after performing Trueplay after updating to 14.12 will need to update their systems and then perform a new Trueplay tuning in order to address these improvements in their system. Customers will hear a more powerful low end response, meaning any Sub level adjustments made after 14.12 should no longer be required.

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Lyricist III
Aug 5, 2022 8:13 PM UTC

I came to this forum looking for help and only saw this version 14.12 issue now; Unfortunately I trusted the multiple youtube video reviews where it was mentioned that the Sonos Arc + Sub + One’s sound quality is an experience to behold. I started off by just getting 1x One and it was amazing. This finally pushed me over the edge and I ordered the Arc a Sub and another One SL to complete my dream setup. My packages arrived, I plug everything in - giddy to be blown away by the amazing sound. It was one of the biggest let downs in my life.. $2000 later I have a system that sounds like a tinny mess - no bass, and intelligible speech unless you really boost the volume. My $50 JBL soundbar sounds 100x better than this. I really do hope that this is a software thing and it can win back my confidence.

Are you testing your system with 5.1 or Dolby Atmos audio? The audio format will be displayed on the Now Playing screen in the Sonos app.

Also, disable Trueplay tuning until the Trueplay/Sub issue is fixed.

Currently my TV doesn’t support eARC or Atmos - this was going to be my next upgrade. I forced it to do Dolby 5.1 in passthrough mode. Sonos App also confirms this. Disabling and enabling Trueplay didn’t make any difference in my case.

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Enthusiast I
Aug 5, 2022 8:22 PM UTC

Really happy with the new sound signature of the arc and surrounds. Sounds a lot more balanced. Sub has taken a hit but I’ll wait for that bug to be addressed. 
Struggling to find the thousands of complaints online however - seems more like a vocal minority posting over and over. 
 

With that said I don’t think it’s fair to owners to completely change the sound signature and have no option to roll back or adjust full EQ to their liking. 

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Lyricist III
Aug 5, 2022 8:25 PM UTC

Really happy with the new sound signature of the arc and surrounds. Sounds a lot more balanced. Sub has taken a hit but I’ll wait for that bug to be addressed. 
Struggling to find the thousands of complaints online however - seems more like a vocal minority posting over and over. 
 

With that said I don’t think it’s fair to owners to completely change the sound signature and have no option to roll back or adjust full EQ to their liking. 

It would seem like only certain setups / users are affected by this change. As I just mentioned in my post above - my 8 year old JBL 2.1 sound bar system sounds so much better than my new Sonos setup which I received 2 days ago. And it is not me being picky and nitpicking (as I never had a “pre 14.12” experience) This is just sound that is terrible. I am pretty sure my TV speakers does a better job. So please take that into consideration when you say it isn’t fair to owners who have no issues or quarrels about how great their system still sound.

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Enthusiast II
Aug 5, 2022 8:27 PM UTC

I came to this forum looking for help and only saw this version 14.12 issue now; Unfortunately I trusted the multiple youtube video reviews where it was mentioned that the Sonos Arc + Sub + One’s sound quality is an experience to behold. I started off by just getting 1x One and it was amazing. This finally pushed me over the edge and I ordered the Arc a Sub and another One SL to complete my dream setup. My packages arrived, I plug everything in - giddy to be blown away by the amazing sound. It was one of the biggest let downs in my life.. $2000 later I have a system that sounds like a tinny mess - no bass, and intelligible speech unless you really boost the volume. My $50 JBL soundbar sounds 100x better than this. I really do hope that this is a software thing and it can win back my confidence.

Are you testing your system with 5.1 or Dolby Atmos audio? The audio format will be displayed on the Now Playing screen in the Sonos app.

Also, disable Trueplay tuning until the Trueplay/Sub issue is fixed.

Currently my TV doesn’t support eARC or Atmos - this was going to be my next upgrade. I forced it to do Dolby 5.1 in passthrough mode. Sonos App also confirms this. Disabling and enabling Trueplay didn’t make any difference in my case.

I would take it all back whilst you still can get a refund (assumingly). Don't fall into the same trap that some of us are in, unable to return, whilst you await a fix. Monitor what the fix is, if it happens and see what the impressions are of it before buying it again. There was no official mention of the sound profile going back to how it used to be, just merely touching the surface of the heap of issues 14.12 brought. Get your money back whilst you can, be one of the lucky escapees.

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Enthusiast I
Aug 5, 2022 8:30 PM UTC

Really happy with the new sound signature of the arc and surrounds. Sounds a lot more balanced. Sub has taken a hit but I’ll wait for that bug to be addressed. 
Struggling to find the thousands of complaints online however - seems more like a vocal minority posting over and over. 
 

With that said I don’t think it’s fair to owners to completely change the sound signature and have no option to roll back or adjust full EQ to their liking. 

It would seem like only certain setups / users are affected by this change. As I just mentioned in my post above - my 8 year old JBL 2.1 sound bar system sounds so much better than my new Sonos setup which I received 2 days ago. And it is not me being picky and nitpicking (as I never had a “pre 14.12” experience) This is just sound that is terrible. I am pretty sure my TV speakers does a better job. So please take that into consideration when you say it isn’t fair to owners who have no issues or quarrels about how great their system still sound.

Not following you. Did you read my comment?
 

I never said what you are implying. 
 

I said “I don’t think it’s fair to owners to completely change the sound signature and have no option to roll back or adjust full EQ to their liking”.

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Lyricist III
Aug 5, 2022 8:32 PM UTC

Really happy with the new sound signature of the arc and surrounds. Sounds a lot more balanced. Sub has taken a hit but I’ll wait for that bug to be addressed. 
Struggling to find the thousands of complaints online however - seems more like a vocal minority posting over and over. 
 

With that said I don’t think it’s fair to owners to completely change the sound signature and have no option to roll back or adjust full EQ to their liking. 

It would seem like only certain setups / users are affected by this change. As I just mentioned in my post above - my 8 year old JBL 2.1 sound bar system sounds so much better than my new Sonos setup which I received 2 days ago. And it is not me being picky and nitpicking (as I never had a “pre 14.12” experience) This is just sound that is terrible. I am pretty sure my TV speakers does a better job. So please take that into consideration when you say it isn’t fair to owners who have no issues or quarrels about how great their system still sound.

Not following you. Did you read my comment?
 

I never said what you are implying. 
 

I said “I don’t think it’s fair to owners to completely change the sound signature and have no option to roll back or adjust full EQ to their liking”.

You are right - apologies I misread your comment. My point still stands in regards to the various other users posting “Why is everyone complaining, it sounds great! Great Job Sonos! keep it up.”

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Lyricist III
Aug 6, 2022 12:23 AM UTC

System sounds absolutely horrible. Unbelievable that they can just send an update to destroy the system entirely. There’s got to be some rules or laws in how they swindled people and made people spend thousands of dollars only to change the way it sounds completely. 

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Lyricist III
Aug 6, 2022 1:01 AM UTC

Looked it up and what they did is pretty much “bait and switch” tactics and completely ruined thousands of peoples systems. I think a class action lawsuit is in order. 

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Airgetlam
Aug 6, 2022 2:58 AM UTC

Please let us know how that works for you and your lawyers. 

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Bruce
Aug 6, 2022 4:02 AM UTC

Looked it up and what they did is pretty much “bait and switch” tactics and completely ruined thousands of peoples systems. I think a class action lawsuit is in order. 

Bait and switch would need intent at the time of the sale to be proved; That isn't the case here, so it can’t be proved. And this is too small/trivial for a class action lawsuit, although stranger things do happen in the US with the ambulance chasing lawyers and their tribe..

What may be worth exploring - if one is really afflicted - are the small causes/consumer grievance redressal tribunals. The ones in India are quite effective, and do not need a plaintiff to even have a lawyer. They handle individual cases, not class actions. And since they can be a nuisance to company senior executives who may have to attend in person in distant parts of the country, customer interest is served quickly in 30-45 days, if the case is visibly genuine. The company would rather refund the sales price and move on with life, because these cases almost never go into consequential damages and the like.

But the viability of this route will vary from country to country; from what I have read, the EU may have similar protections.

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