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  • 22 December 2020
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When will the Sonos controller for MacOS be updated to run natively on Apple Silicon?

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Best answer by Airgetlam 22 December 2020, 19:11

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If your device of choice doesn’t have much market share you won’t see a lot of interest at Sonos in spending money to support it.

For me it is Linux. Fortunately I have found a couple options from outside developers that meet my needs. Go looking, you might find something for your Mac.

This really sours me on Sonos. I have damn near every product they make apart from the newer Era stuff, but this might be the end of the line for me. The mobile apps are starting to show their age as well!

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The only chance for a native controller is if Apple stop supporting Intel code generation in XCode, but I haven’t seen any timeline for such a step. Would likely be after the last MacOS update for Intel devices.

The Sonos desktop controllers -- Mac and Windows -- are on the ‘sustaining maintenance’ list, and have been for some years. We’re highly unlikely to see any significant feature development work on them now.

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No. 

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No. 

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Still no chances to get an Apple Silicon native controller application?

Not since they announced several years ago that all development, except for bug fixes, for both Windows and Mac applications had stopped. I would have to assume that includes any recompile process for ‘new’ hardware that the OS runs on. 

Two years later… Sonos cannot be bothered to recompile the app?

Apple makes it stupid easy to port these things over though, all it usually takes is a recompile. I hate that desktop software is now just a second class citizen. 

I really haven’t noticed any rotting of my Mac controller on either my M1 or older Intel Macs. Both perform flawlessly, as they should. Slightly annoyed by the lack of setup functions, but I have my iOS devices, it’s just not that onerous on the extremely rare occasions that I need to deal with a setup function. 

You might be over reacting here. I get your point without the dramatics. 

Catch 22?  No desktop app for Apple Silicon or W64, and the stats say no one uses desktop app.  Funny that.

I can’t speak for Apple users, but I’ll wager most Windows users cannot tell the difference between a 32-bit or a 64-bit app. The WOW (Windows-on-Windows) subsystem has long made the difference invisible.

Right.  Let the DT software just rot in place. Ask pandora how that’s working out for them. Mobile controllers are nice, unless i’m sitting at my desk in front of my computer.  

Yah, no more sonos $$$ for me.  The lack of M1 desktop support, general DT apathy, and speaker priorities don’t really align well with a lot of what I value.  Maybe fewer lawyers and a couple of engineers who can recompile code for M1?

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Catch 22?  No desktop app for Apple Silicon or W64, and the stats say no one uses desktop app.  Funny that.

I can’t speak for Apple users, but I’ll wager most Windows users cannot tell the difference between a 32-bit or a 64-bit app. The WOW (Windows-on-Windows) subsystem has long made the difference invisible.

They stopped ‘development’ of both desktop apps several years ago, and stripped out all ‘set up’ functions. The desktop controllers are now just receiving bug updates, but Sonos has said that the mobile apps are what should be used moving forward. I use my desktop app for music playback, but any time I need to do anything substantial to my system, I use the mobile controller. 

Catch 22?  No desktop app for Apple Silicon or W64, and the stats say no one uses desktop app.  Funny that.

Apple Silicon has been available in production for been over two years, it is simply a lack of focus now. 

64-bit Windows has been available for over a decade, but there is still no 64-bit Sonos app for it, despite almost no-one running 32-bit Windows these days. Windows on ARM has existed for longer than “Apple Silicon”, still no version for that either.

Why is there no version for 64-bit or ARM Windows? Well #1 because the desktop controllers are in life-support maintenance mode only, and #2 because the emulation layers on all these platforms work well enough. Apple is no different in this regard.

You are right and this makes sense overall. Companies face these development decisions all the time. 

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Apple Silicon has been available in production for been over two years, it is simply a lack of focus now. 

64-bit Windows has been available for over a decade, but there is still no 64-bit Sonos app for it, despite almost no-one running 32-bit Windows these days. Windows on ARM has existed for longer than “Apple Silicon”, still no version for that either.

Why is there no version for 64-bit or ARM Windows? Well #1 because the desktop controllers are in life-support maintenance mode only, and #2 because the emulation layers on all these platforms work well enough. Apple is no different in this regard.

Apple Silicon has been available in production for been over two years, it is simply a lack of focus now. 

I would also like an Apple Silicon version of the app.

Lately Sonos app on apple silicon just freezes up, uses excessive CPU and is unresponsive always requires a Force Quit. Congrats on being my first Rosetta2 crasher 😀.  

Would be nice if they either release an apple silicon native app (New iPads are all going to have the M series CPU now...) or fix whatever it is that has caused Rosetta to perform so poorly over the last couple of released updates to the desktop app. 
 

I would love to be able to use the iPad app on my M1 Mac since the macOS app’s GUI is not good.

I can run the current software on my M1 MacBook Air without any issue. Not sure why you’d need Rosetta. 

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I don’t know if posting will up vote this, but I refuse to install Rosetta on my M1 Macs as the thing is a beauty without it and battery life of a titan.   But now I can’t control my sonos which is a bummer. 

Put that way, Sonos doesn’t really care about Windows users, either, since pretty much all development has been taken away from all desktop clients, not just Mac users. You can no longer use a desktop client to do most of the “setup” features, either, although they still work fine for playing music. In fact, as I sit here, the Mac client is telling me I’m listening to music right now. 

The removal of features from the desktop clients preceded the split between S1 and S2, so you’d see similar issues on either side. I happen to be running S2. 

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