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I love my SONOS!!!! Great product, Great Support and Great company!!!!! The only fault I see is why no SONOS wireless headphones? While I love my theater quality sound when I watch TV my family does not have the same appreciation when I am watching a late night movie or Monday Night Football.
There are so many reasons I can think of that would be nice to put on a SONOS wireless headphones:
- Football anytime my kids are playing in the house
- Late night movie, TV, Music... so I don't disturb the family
- Treadmill
I have done some research and see there may be some work around products that may work but I have committed SONOS. I want to put on some SONOS wireless headphones, select headphones on the SONOS app and enjoy the same wireless quality sound I get from my other speakers.
There are so many reasons I can think of that would be nice to put on a SONOS wireless headphones:
- Football anytime my kids are playing in the house
- Late night movie, TV, Music... so I don't disturb the family
- Treadmill
I have done some research and see there may be some work around products that may work but I have committed SONOS. I want to put on some SONOS wireless headphones, select headphones on the SONOS app and enjoy the same wireless quality sound I get from my other speakers.
I agree about the need for a way to use headphones with my Play:1s. I can't afford a Connect, and I don't want to be tethered to a Connect and headphones amp. I want to be able to use Sonos with I'm vacuuming, listening to music late at night when my partner is asleep, etc. The speakers and system are absolutely wonderful -- except for the inability to use headphones. C'mon, Sonos, step up!
note - this hooked to a Sonos output (Connect or old Play:5) would send to the Powerbeats
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Won't the sound of the vacuum wake your partner anyway?
Perhaps this was discussed above, but I received a Playbar for Christmas. Loved it! Had to return it. You see, our kids use headphones on weekend mornings so that we can sleep in. No headphone access with the Soundbar means that we had to return it.
I'm sure the next hardware rev of the Soundbar could add bluetooth headphone capabilities and it would not erode your business. May even spur sales of Soundbars.
Thanks, My2¢.
I'm sure the next hardware rev of the Soundbar could add bluetooth headphone capabilities and it would not erode your business. May even spur sales of Soundbars.
Thanks, My2¢.
As said, you need to find a set of wireless headphones that will accept an optical input. Sennheiser offers several. Sony used to offer one and it is the model I use, but it is no longer offered. SONOS Connect has 3 outputs, 1-analog, 2 digital. My system is wired so that 1 digital output is wired to my out board DAC and then to my stereo amp; the other is wired to the wireless headphones. When I want to listen to the headphones I switch the input on the amp to something other than SONOS (or turn it off) and turn on the headphones and listen. Both digital outputs on the Connect are active simultaneously (I think the analog out out is too, but I don't know and never tried.) so you feasibly could use them simultaneously but that kind of defeats the purpose of headphones. The controllers don't know (or care) what outputs are in use so all 3 represent the same Zone. So once its set up, its pretty much seamless - no switches, headphone amps or moving of wired connections. Really what more could you ask for?
The hardware that SONOS makes is wonderful. Dedicated controllers were a bust and headphones would be too. Let's just let them continue to do what they do best and improve on that platform and not stray into uncharted waters.
The hardware that SONOS makes is wonderful. Dedicated controllers were a bust and headphones would be too. Let's just let them continue to do what they do best and improve on that platform and not stray into uncharted waters.
A Wi-Fi headphone would allow you to move around your home (earlier examples were vacuuming or other household members sleeping) without being tethered to a specific Sonos Connect.
To use a wireless headphone system (Sennheiser and Sony have been mentioned) you would also need a Sonos Connect to provide the varying audio input. This could be rather costly especially if you wanted more than one person to have this complete flexibility including selecting a different audio source.
I posted a question a few weeks ago about streaming an audio source to a tablet (https://en.community.sonos.com/components-228996/can-i-use-a-connect-to-stream-an-audio-source-tv-for-example-to-my-tablet-6734992) which is the same type of scenario - the ability to have one or more persons streaming audio to their headphones.
Perhaps instead of Wi-Fi headphones, if the Sonos app had the ability to capture audio from a source for playback, you could connect headphones to a smartphone which has the Sonos app installed. This would essentially turn your smartphone into a portable Connect and allowing you to place the phone in your pocket and vacuum freely or have multiple people enjoying audio content without disturbing others. This would be essentially 'free' and any visitor who had headphones with them could participate.
Just a thought.
To use a wireless headphone system (Sennheiser and Sony have been mentioned) you would also need a Sonos Connect to provide the varying audio input. This could be rather costly especially if you wanted more than one person to have this complete flexibility including selecting a different audio source.
I posted a question a few weeks ago about streaming an audio source to a tablet (https://en.community.sonos.com/components-228996/can-i-use-a-connect-to-stream-an-audio-source-tv-for-example-to-my-tablet-6734992) which is the same type of scenario - the ability to have one or more persons streaming audio to their headphones.
Perhaps instead of Wi-Fi headphones, if the Sonos app had the ability to capture audio from a source for playback, you could connect headphones to a smartphone which has the Sonos app installed. This would essentially turn your smartphone into a portable Connect and allowing you to place the phone in your pocket and vacuum freely or have multiple people enjoying audio content without disturbing others. This would be essentially 'free' and any visitor who had headphones with them could participate.
Just a thought.
If 'supporting' wireless headphones meant sorting out their problems -- and potential interaction with the Sonos system -- then I'm not surprised that Sonos won't officially do so. There are some makes of wireless headphone which can be unruly cohabitants of the 2.4GHz band, spraying noise everywhere and comprehensively hosing the Sonos system.
If the Sennheisers work for you, all well and good. They do raise the ambient RF noise level somewhat for nearby Sonos players but so long as yours are coping you'll be fine.
Exactly right. My family objects to the volume at which I want to listen. I have 2 Play1s and a Sub. I don't want or need a Connect -- I'd add a playbar -- but if I can't listen at night when everyone is asleep, it is a deal breaker. And I don't want Sonos to supply headphones. All I want is a headphone jack. Since the playbar has its own amps, it should be an easy hack to wire one in. Anyone tried that?
PLAYBAR does of course have a 'Night Sound' mode which reduces the dynamic range so as to avoid disturbing others.
Surely for the kids' purposes you could even have simply attached a Bluetooth audio transmitter to the TV itself?
I don't want bluetooth -- I want a wired headphone jack on the playar so I can connet my high end headphones and listed to the Metropolitan Opera streaming
Getting a used Play:5 gen1 with headphone jack or a Connect are the only current options.
P.S. Not saying there shouldn't be better options that's just all we have as of now.
P.S. Not saying there shouldn't be better options that's just all we have as of now.
1/ There are nine Class-D amplifiers, each EQ'd specifically for its driver. Care to pick two?
2/ Your warranty would be instantly invalidated.
Hi, I am missing feedback from Sonos on this topic.
What is THEIR solution to use a headphone through the Sonossystem?
What is THEIR solution to use a headphone through the Sonossystem?
What is THEIR solution to use a headphone through the Sonossystem?
You won't get any feedback, other than a "we'll pass on the request". Sonos never comment on future plans.
As for Sonos' current headphone solution, there isn't one as such. In fact the only explicit headphone outlet was withdrawn from the PLAY:5 at Gen2.
I don't get it. It's clearly the missing link in the Sonossystem. To be clear: I'm a huge fan of Sonos. The only thing I'm missing is a sub (still saving...:( ) and... a wireless headphone solution. (doesn't need to be a Sonos headphone altough it would be nice.)
Some customers use headphones, and the obvious solution is to connect one's choice of wireless headphone transmitter to a CONNECT (or ZP90/ZP80). For small wired headphones/earphones one might be able to get away with connecting direct to the CONNECT's Line Outs, but any serious 'phones would require a headphone amp to provide sufficient power.
Sonos' marketing message is all about listening 'out loud', so I somehow doubt they'd consider doing their own headphones. It would require a rather different skill set than for a speaker, and the potential market opportunity could be small compared with that for, say, a new model of speaker.
Sonos' marketing message is all about listening 'out loud', so I somehow doubt they'd consider doing their own headphones. It would require a rather different skill set than for a speaker, and the potential market opportunity could be small compared with that for, say, a new model of speaker.
I chatted with Sonos regarding the use of wireless headphones, but their official answer is that Sonos doesn't support them. However, thanks to my son's suggestion and this support community, I purchased a Sonos Connect and Sennheiser RS 175 RF Wireless Headphone System, and they work perfectly when connected to each other with the optical cable that comes with the headphones. The amazing thing is how the TV mute works. I Group the Connect and the Playbar so that the headphones AND the Playbar are playing the sound from the TV. I then hit the Mute button on the TV remote and the Playbar goes silent......but the headphones still work and I can adjust the volume using the Sonos app on my iPhone. The Playbar is connected via optical cable to my TV, while the Connect is plugged into the wall on the other side of the room connected to the headphones that sit on a base next to the Connect. That's the perfect solution for letting me listen to the TV when my wife goes to bed and needs silence to go to sleep. I'm really not sure why Sonos told me that their equipment doesn't support wireless headphones, but perhaps not all brands/models will work with the Connect setup for some reason.
That would imply the Sonos controller app becoming a media player. This subject has been done to death on multiple threads over the years, and the words 'commercial suicide' often featured in such discussions:
1/ Sonos makes money from selling hardware players.
2/ The controller app is free.
3/ Turning a phone into a free software Sonos player therefore makes zero business sense.
This is how I am using wireless headphones with my Sonos...
My system consists of a Playbar, a Sub and two Play 1s. I don't need a $350 Connect, just a $20 splitter.
I have a Tivo Roamio, Xbox, Apple TV and BluRay player all hooked up via digital optical into 4:2 Toslink switcher.
A single digital optical out goes to the playbar. This switcher configuration allows 5.1 from the playbar. I have used this setup without issue for the last year. I recently had a need for headphone support. So I added a 1:3 Toslink splitter.
Instead of the playbar, the single output from the switcher now is the input for the 1:3 splitter and one output goes digital audio to the playbar and a second output goes digital audio into the Sennheiser RS 175 RF wireless headphone. When I want to use the headphones I simply mute or volume down the Sonos and put on the headphones. (The Sennheisers don't like the Dolby Digital output from the Roamio so I have to change the Roamio's output to PCM then all is golden) Hope this is helpful.
My system consists of a Playbar, a Sub and two Play 1s. I don't need a $350 Connect, just a $20 splitter.
I have a Tivo Roamio, Xbox, Apple TV and BluRay player all hooked up via digital optical into 4:2 Toslink switcher.
A single digital optical out goes to the playbar. This switcher configuration allows 5.1 from the playbar. I have used this setup without issue for the last year. I recently had a need for headphone support. So I added a 1:3 Toslink splitter.
Instead of the playbar, the single output from the switcher now is the input for the 1:3 splitter and one output goes digital audio to the playbar and a second output goes digital audio into the Sennheiser RS 175 RF wireless headphone. When I want to use the headphones I simply mute or volume down the Sonos and put on the headphones. (The Sennheisers don't like the Dolby Digital output from the Roamio so I have to change the Roamio's output to PCM then all is golden) Hope this is helpful.
I am sure it will be helpful. But unless I misunderstand (perfectly possible) you are using the headphones "with" your Sonos system in the sense of "alongside" your Sonos system. You aren't actually listening to any Sonos music sources through the headphones are you?
I had the same observation. I think you have described a simple and effective way to use headphones to listen to your TV while your Playbar and other speakers are still connected to your TV (although they may be muted), but it doesn't sound like you would be able to listen to music, podcasts, radio stations, etc. that can play through your Sonos system.....unless there is something I am overlooking.
I'm sorry, yes, you guys are correct. I posted that because I thought folks were looking for ways to output source material to headphones being as the playbar lacks headphone jacks or audio out. I wasn't aware the actual problem was getting Sonos app material headphone support. I am a Tidal user. When listening to Tidal with phones I always use the standalone Tidal app. Are you saying people are wanting to access services like Tidal and Spotify thru the Sonos app with headphones rather than their individual standalone apps? I am kind of confused now.
I think the original problem was trying to connect headphones to the Sonos system because, if you contact Sonos, the "official" position of the company is that their equipment does not support headphones. The use of headphones with the TV is one potential application for headphones, but your use of Tidal or Spotify is another potential reason to have your headphones connected to Sonos. As you point out with the detailed description of how you hooked up your system, there is a less expensive way to use headphones with your TV, even if your TV optical output is plugged into a Playbar - you don't need to go through the Sonos system with the Playbar.
As someone else pointed out (and the Sonos folks told me when I contacted them), it's possible that certain headphones may work with the Sonos Connect, but other headphones may not due to interference or some other reason. It appears that a few folks in this community have gotten their Sennheiser RS 175 RF headphones to work with the Sonos Connect, so at least that's an option that has been shown to function correctly, and easily. All it takes is money. 8^)
As someone else pointed out (and the Sonos folks told me when I contacted them), it's possible that certain headphones may work with the Sonos Connect, but other headphones may not due to interference or some other reason. It appears that a few folks in this community have gotten their Sennheiser RS 175 RF headphones to work with the Sonos Connect, so at least that's an option that has been shown to function correctly, and easily. All it takes is money. 8^)
Sonos doesn't support Bluetooth -- for input or output -- and given that their general attitude is that Bluetooth audio quality (and range) is not in keeping with the brand I doubt they'd change their mind.
PLAYBAR does of course have a 'Night Sound' mode which reduces the dynamic range so as to avoid disturbing others.
Surely for the kids' purposes you could even have simply attached a Bluetooth audio transmitter to the TV itself?
PLAYBAR does of course have a 'Night Sound' mode which reduces the dynamic range so as to avoid disturbing others.
Surely for the kids' purposes you could even have simply attached a Bluetooth audio transmitter to the TV itself?
"Needs to supply headphones"? Why, just go and buy some. You can "hook" up any headphones, wireless or otherwise, to a Sonos unit with a line out or headphone socket (so Connect or play:5).
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