Play 5 Gen 1 won't connect after S1 update

  • 1 October 2020
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After updating to S1 my Sonos system worked as usual by following an update to version 11.2.3, build 57381090, my play 5 Gen 1 will no longer connect. I’ve tried all the solutions as per the app to add a missing product, including the factory reset on the speaker and powering down router and hard wiring the speaker with ethernet cable.

I’m left with the mute and dash button flashing green.

Given the CEO of Sonos gave a written assurance that the old speakers would work with the new software, that must mean i’m due a new speaker from Sonos as clearly this is not the case.

Anyone else with this problem?

 

 

 

 


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I felt I was cheated when it mentions that I still can connect to my Play:5 (gen 1) on my Sonos s1 app. So I decided to finally upgrade to Sonos s2 app…and it can’t detect any of my Sonos: Play:1, Play:3 (all 3 speakers), and Soundbar…and of course my play:5 . Decided to add the Play:5 to Sonos s1: using the Add Product…but it only asked me to update my apps to S2 with no option to add play:5 into S1 at all…what do I do????

I too assumed that play:5 gen1 will still be available on s1. But it is not. I’ve also reset the app (App Preference)…and Setup new account, but when I added the Boost…it automatically setup my old Account ID and again, I can’t see my Play:5 gen 1…sigh!

No you won’t if you started with your Boost from a fresh setup as that created a different Household.

Did you reset the Play:5 speaker? ..if not, switch off your Boost and reset the S1 Sonos App, via App preferences and then on reopening the App and bypassing the opening screens, just choose to connect it back to the ‘existing’ S1 system. (It might help you to switch off your S2 devices temporarily whilst you do that). Also note this will only work if you have not factory reset the Play:5.

I felt I was cheated when it mentions that I still can connect to my Play:5 (gen 1) on my Sonos s1 app. So I decided to finally upgrade to Sonos s2 app…and it can’t detect any of my Sonos: Play:1, Play:3 (all 3 speakers), and Soundbar…and of course my play:5 . Decided to add the Play:5 to Sonos s1: using the Add Product…but it only asked me to update my apps to S2 with no option to add play:5 into S1 at all…what do I do????

I too assumed that play:5 gen1 will still be available on s1. But it is not. I’ve also reset the app (App Preference)…and Setup new account, but when I added the Boost…it automatically setup my old Account ID and again, I can’t see my Play:5 gen 1…sigh!

I felt I was cheated when it mentions that I still can connect to my Play:5 (gen 1) on my Sonos s1 app. So I decided to finally upgrade to Sonos s2 app…and it can’t detect any of my Sonos: Play:1, Play:3 (all 3 speakers), and Soundbar…and of course my play:5 . Decided to add the Play:5 to Sonos s1: using the Add Product…but it only asked me to update my apps to S2 with no option to add play:5 into S1 at all…what do I do????

Assuming all devices were initially running on S1 in the first instance and you opted to use the compatibility checker and upgrade the S2 devices. Each compatible device will upgrade to the auto-downloaded S2 App and the S1 compatible Play:5 (gen1) will remain available through the existing S1 App. Personally speaking though, in that type of scenario, both Systems will hold the same Sonos HouseholdID and I would actually prefer different HouseholdID’s, so my choice would be to reset one of the Households so that they were different, but it’s not essential.

I felt I was cheated when it mentions that I still can connect to my Play:5 (gen 1) on my Sonos s1 app. So I decided to finally upgrade to Sonos s2 app…and it can’t detect any of my Sonos: Play:1, Play:3 (all 3 speakers), and Soundbar…and of course my play:5 . Decided to add the Play:5 to Sonos s1: using the Add Product…but it only asked me to update my apps to S2 with no option to add play:5 into S1 at all…what do I do????

Certainly, the Gen 1 PLAY:5 was built before the use of NFC during the setup process to transmit wifi information. If it’s looking for another network, the best thing is to force it onto your router with that ethernet cable. Removes a bunch of potential randomness, that way. Or force it to use SonosNet rather than your own wifi. 

For what it’s worth, I had the same issue being stuck with a factory reset Play 5 (Gen I) with a green blinking light. Connected it directly to the router and the Sonos 1 app found it immediately. 

@Ynotuk1 - thanks for the reply.

If not done already, when you re-download/open the S2 App, just go through the opening screens and accept the T&C’s and select the option to connect the App back to the ‘existing system’ it will then find and connect to the S2 system on the network.

Anyhow, have a good weekend.👍

Hi Ken,

Thank you for replying, I did have the Sonos S2 app on my phone so deleted it yesterday, turned the Sonos play 5 on this morning after reading your message ,to give it another go to try and get it to connect , as soon as I turns it on it recognised my router 😁

Followed the online instructions to set up a new system and now I’m sat here listening to the play 5 , play my favourites again 😁

So thank you very much Ken , I very much appreciate your input, have a good day 😁

 

 

Note you cannot create a new S1 system with a Play:5 gen1 without first removing the Sonos S2 App from the mobile setup device - so if you perhaps haven’t tried that already, then give that a go.

The speaker’s status LED will need to be reset/flashing green to set it up on a new S1 Sonos Household and the Sonos controller device also needs to meet these system requirements:

https://support.sonos.com/s/article/4875

Just not enough information in your post to offer any significant solutions, beyond the standard “if you connect it to your router with an ethernet cable, does it work?” But not knowing any of the other significant information certainly hampers any attempt to be of assistance. 

Have you tried calling Sonos Support. There certainly have been a handful of cases where the wifi card/system has gone bad in these, but Sonos Support should be able to discern that, if you call them with more data. 

Hi, 

Thanks for your reply, yes I have tried a hard wired connection to my router but it still cannot connect, I’ve also tried the Wi-Fi but still no joy , I’ve reset the Sonos to its factory settings and it still won’t connect.

Today I’ve Emailed Sonos support outlining the issue but after reading someone else’s message in this forum from yesterday ( who has the same problem as me ) he was told there was nothing they could do apart from offering him a 30% discount off a future purchase of another Sonos product!!

 

I mean Really , is that all they can do , when the problem is clearly an issue with the play 5 Gen , I will await a response and go from there and hope that they can resolve this issue but if they cannot I will be pushing for a lot more than 30% of a new product that’s not guaranteed to work.

 

It’s very frustrating as it was a gift from my wife and an expensive one at that.

 

Thanks once again for your input.

I have tried everything that the Sonos system suggests to reconnect my Play 5.  I have also tried everything that I could find in this forum.  I finally called Sonos Support about 2 weeks ago.  The customer service guy was as helpful as he could be.  He tried and suggested a number of things to reconnect my Play 5.  He ultimately told me there was nothing that can be done to reconnect it.  He offered me a 30% credit on a Sonos replacement product.  My Play 5 was about 6-7 years old.  I spent about $400-500 for it and it’s useless now.   I am 70 years old and assumed this speaker would have lasted me the rest of my life.   I have to send back my useless Play 5 in order to get the 30% credit.  I’m debating whether to go through the hassle when I still have to buy a new speaker (even though I’d get 30% off) that may not last that long.  I have 4 other pieces of Sonos equipment and I'm wondering how long they're going to last.  I was thoroughly impressed with Sonos during my first few years of ownership.  My opinion has steadily gone down hill since.   The price point of their products should indicate a level of quality that doesn’t seem to exist.   I’m going to need to start researching competitors to Sonos.

Just not enough information in your post to offer any significant solutions, beyond the standard “if you connect it to your router with an ethernet cable, does it work?” But not knowing any of the other significant information certainly hampers any attempt to be of assistance. 

Have you tried calling Sonos Support. There certainly have been a handful of cases where the wifi card/system has gone bad in these, but Sonos Support should be able to discern that, if you call them with more data. 

Same problem here ,play 5 gen 1 simply won’t connect, very, very frustrating , this is the third time I’ve tried to persevere to get it working over the last few years, it was initially a gift from my wife ( an expensive one at that ) and at first it worked a treat but as someone else above stated it just an expensive paper weight, would never buy another Sonus product as it looks like there is no remedy to this problem .

@emaxson44,

See these links below re controlling Sonos playback from the mobile Lock Screen…

iOS Controller… 
https://support.sonos.com/s/article/3381

Android Controller…

https://support.sonos.com/s/article/3062

I’m having the same problem.  I do remember that the Sonos CEO said there would be no loss of functionality in their S1 products.   I have also been frustrated by not being able to control my Sonos speakers when my phone is in the inactive screen mode.   When I first started buying Sonos products it inactive screen control was very functional.    I see thousands of people have replied to previous posts in this chain - but I don’t see anything that indicates that Sonos is doing much of anything to restore S1 products to their original functionality.   Sonos keeps sending me marketing emails touting their newest products.   Why would anyone with S1 products (that seem to be increasingly less functional) buy any new Sonos products????         I’M WONDERING IF SOME SORT OF CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT MIGHT GET THEIR ATTENTION.   ANYONE ELSE AGREE?

I have the same issue. Moved and now my gen1 play 5 won’t work. I spent a long time reading these boards and got it to work with Ethernet plugged in but cannot get it over to Wi-Fi. Submitted diagnostic report (729244169). Sounds like this may not be possible to fix reading this message board though.

It initially sounds like it’s the WiFi adapter not working on the speaker, but have you tried re-adding the WiFi credentials to the speaker again, whilst it’s wired to your LAN? See below:

  1. Open the Sonos S1 Controller app for iOS or Android.
  2. From the Settings tab, press System > Network > Wireless Setup and follow the prompts to enter your Wi-Fi password.
  3. Once the wireless setup is complete, disconnect the Ethernet cable from any Sonos products wired to your router.

If that fails, then I would cable the speaker back to the LAN and when it reappears in the App, submit a Sonos diagnostic report once again, note it’s reference and contact/chat to Sonos Support Staff via this LINK and see what they say.

I have the same issue. Moved and now my gen1 play 5 won’t work. I spent a long time reading these boards and got it to work with Ethernet plugged in but cannot get it over to Wi-Fi. Submitted diagnostic report (729244169). Sounds like this may not be possible to fix reading this message board though.

Replace the white bridge thingy with a BOOST. The BRIDGE, at its age, is known for failing power supply issues, which can cause very difficult to determine issues.

Conversely, you could just wire directly to the speaker, and drop the BRIDGE completely, or set up your system to directly connect to your WiFi, as indicated in the wired and wireless modes FAQ.

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Me too - pair of Gen 1 S5s and the white bridge thingy. Bricked as far as I can tell.

I am having the same issue.    Paly 5 Gen 1  won’t hook up.!     Reset, rebooted. spend an hour one the phone with tech support running diagostics.  Nothing.  

 

I am going to buy the new Gen 2 at a 30% trade in discount.     Really like the products but i don’t like software glitch that was obviously designed into the update. 

 

 

Somebody should read the privacy statement before launching into a silly rant.  At least then you could limit your bitch to things Sonos actually does.

PS - They use your location to geofence services and to list local radio.  Oooooh, how nefarious of them! :rolling_eyes:

PPS - Come in here with that attitude and you'll be waiting a long time for your "not obvious suggestion".  Merry Christmas!

Let me lend my voice to the chorus...

I spent MANY MANY thousands of dollars of gen 1 products so I am in no mood to buy gen 2 products which they are constantly trying to bum rush me over to.   It looks like someone took over and said whoops we really didn’t think ahead to monetize this so they forced jammed us to now have to login and go through sonos to use products that we long since paid for so that they can sniff, peddle and control everything we do with the product.  That’s patently shameful and outrageous scum-baggery. Furthermore they will not publish an overview of how their networks interconnect so that we could maybe just figure out where these problems (and I have had many) lie. Further still I just want the speakers to play music I select.  That’s it.  Would have been nice if I could feed the speakers directly from my PC or phone but cannot understand for the life of me why that feature was never introduced - but maybe if they shared how their networks are set up I might have some sympathy. 

Lastly I do not need your suggestions,  I do not need your play lists I do not need your radio I want you out of my pants and god help me if you are sharing my music selections or any other exploitable information (like my location - lord knows why that is all of a sudden necessary) with third parties and monetizing it in any way.  I will in short never buy another Sonos system again if for no other reason than angry spite and tell others the same every chance I get.

 

Now I just moved two Gen 1 Play 5 speakers to a newly created network.  One of them connected and the other cannot be detected using the exact same procedures.  The speakers were paired on a previous network but despite factory resetting both the second speaker cannot be found and yes tried all of the childish suggestions.  I waiting for a not obvious suggestion.

 

 

 

 

If everyone is having the same problems(me to)its obviously software issues that need to be addressed.I’ve been chasing my tail trying to get my two play fives to connect.Plugging into router,temporarily WiFi that don’t work.COME ON SONOS!

Plug the errant PLAY:5 in to the router with an Ethernet cable, then submit a system diagnostic , and call Sonos Support to discuss it.

There may be information included in the diagnostic that will help Sonos pinpoint the issue and help you find a solution.

When you speak directly to the phone folks, they have tools at their disposal that will allow them to give you advice specific to your Sonos system and network.

 

I have the exact same problem. Did the factory reset on play 5 gen 1

Green light flashing but can’t get it to connect to the app. Can’t find the product on app

 

tried all the trouble shooting  someone pls help

 

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