Google Assistant

@spyderweb... for the most part you are not necessarily wrong with what you say... but when you apply context... it falls apart... patience,,, define patience... personnally, I have been patient for mmmm about 16 months... so just what is the definition of patience. In 16 months, I have built a house... I have had 2 grandchildren... I have started, built and sold a business... I have flown across the Atlantic 20 times... so we are saying be patient, because it takes more than a year to integrate... so... what is patient... 6 more months, 12 ?? 24 ?? just what is patient...how long does it take to integrate ??? Thanks for listening to my rant.... and yes... I am at the point of reselling my sonos... for how much... time will tell.. I will once again have to be patient... I personally think I have been patient... but then, everything is in the definition...

Yeah, and 6 weeks later the dangling carrot remains just as elusive as ever. Sonos is now a full YEAR behind in their original promise to bring Google Integration, and there still isn't any light at the end of the tunnel. It's amazing that in the high tech arena, 18 months is an eternity, and here we are, still watching Sonos paddling upstream with one oar in the water.

Though I like the creativity with the image (It did make me chuckle a bit), your math is off a bit. Sonos originally stated that they would deliver Google integration in 2018. Being that it's now Feb. 2019, the are 2 months off their original promise. Even if you poorly assume '2018' meant the middle of the year, June/July, it would be 8 months. Still not a year.

I think your 18 months from when they first announced integration was coming is about right though.

I really don't think it's accurate to claim that Sonos is incompetent with this delay though. We can assume tasks are easy looking at the black box from the outside, but we can't really see how it all works. Nor do we know how much effort Google is putting into their side of the equation. Is the delay disappointing? Sure. Is it late because Sonos pushed on the pull door? I have no idea.

Methinks "anal parsing of" and "winks and nods" are olde English phrases meaning "actually freaking reading" and "facts made up in my head". Otherwise, it doesn't make sense.

On the other hand, we have been able to cast from google play music to sonos on android since 2013,


My experience over recent months is that this functionality (GPM Android casting to Sonos) is steadily deteriorating.

I'm assuming that stuff is getting unintentionally broken by slight changes to code or APIs that are relied upon for the integration, but that because GPM is being sunsetted, the breakages aren't getting much/any attention to fix them.

Certainly my own experience of GPM casting to Sonos has gone from being very robust to pretty flakey over the past 6-9 months.

For example, a few weeks back the casting icons no longer function (display) correctly so you cannot tell at a glance what's going on; the skipping of tracks as they neared the end seems mercily to have abated for now; casting has become unreliable such that it can be possible for the phone to be simultaneously playing and casting the same track (with slight delay) and it being impossible to control (eg. to stop) the instance of the track playing on the phone.

In short, the previously excellent GPM/Sonos integration seems to be "going down the tubes". Probably because development effort is going on the Youtubes(!) not GPM, but maybe just a manifestation of developers spread too thin and/or management insufficiently interested in ensuring good customer experience.

Wow. Had almost given up tbh. Out in US today. When will it be available in the UK sonos?

Released today, some helpful TIPS from Sonos.

Some additional info here

Wow. Had almost given up tbh. Out in US today. When will it be available in the UK sonos?or can we change our machine to look like they are in the US to get the update :)
Anyone know if we can "fool" Sonos to get update when not located in US?

It's almost as if integrating someone else's AI and automation software into your system is an easy task!

Well yes actually it is. And other manufacturers have with ease integrated it into everything from watches to headphones and bluetooth speakers. It's not like they have to make a new voice assistant from scratch. They just have to integrate an already existing one which shouldnt take as much time as it has.

If it's so easy, why aren't you applying to work for Sonos' development team?

Though I like the creativity with the image (It did make me chuckle a bit), your math is off a bit. Sonos originally stated that they would deliver Google integration in 2018. Being that it's now Feb. 2019, the are 2 months off their original promise. Even if you poorly assume '2018' meant the middle of the year, June/July, it would be 8 months. Still not a year.

I think your 18 months from when they first announced integration was coming is about right though.

I really don't think it's accurate to claim that Sonos is incompetent with this delay though. We can assume tasks are easy looking at the black box from the outside, but we can't really see how it all works. Nor do we know how much effort Google is putting into their side of the equation. Is the delay disappointing? Sure. Is it late because Sonos pushed on the pull door? I have no idea.

I think purely due to the ridiculously long length of time it's been so far, people kind of forget how the release of the One's in October of 2017 was including the winks and nods that the Google Integration was coming in early 2018. I bought my pair of One's around Xmas 2017 and the sales people were clearly stating around the end of the 1st quarter of 2018.

If people recall, it wasn't until we got to summer 2018 and people started voicing impatience did Sonos start working expectations back to later 2018. So, yes the One's were released with the expectation that the GI was coming a year ago - approx this time last year. Since then, every time the next push back comes, it's another 6 months added to the mix. This latest one at CES purposely presented the image that we were getting close - so close in fact, that they were expanding the second round of Beta testing.

I happen to be a Beta tester for a large number of high tech firms - Including a number of Google divisions - Including Home. Most trials, soaks, previews, etc, last a few weeks to perhaps a month max. I've never seen a Beta program last for a year plus with ZERO result. It's unheard of, and clearly highlights there are are some serious problems. We've also more recently heard about lowered expectations on the degree of integration as it relates to working with Google Speaker groups, etc.

So I guess the thing is, when you buy an electronic product claiming a new feature is coming as part of the deal - Does the immediate image you get equate to a YEAR from now? How about 18 months or 2 years? I mean at what point was that original promise which was part of the "Sales Job" become inappropriate? Most electronics features usually take 3 to 6 months Max for release which is the reasonable expectation. And, based on the number of new Google Integrated products being released every day - ALL of which were not even on the map a year ago, only goes to reinforce that Sonos clearly have really screwed the pooch here. They've been working on this since at least mid-2017 and yes, this is totally inappropriate.

Absolutely frustrated.

I've never seen a Beta program last for a year plus with ZERO result.

Ummmm..... gmail?

That was in beta for what felt like a decade.