Virtual Zones and Zone Grouping

  • 27 February 2005
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This "link/unlink" business is really cumbersome - and not a joy to use which goes against the ease of use of the rest of the system.

Why can't I have a virtual zone - ie a zone called "Downstairs" - and I can group all my downstairs zones into this. Then I dont have to keep manually linking/unlinking multiple zones everytime.

PLEASE !

G.

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I'd like to re-energise this request. Locking 2 or more zones together and giving them a separate name is certainly something I would use and fully support. I have a kitchen open to the dining room, I have a stereo pair above the kitchen units and a play one in the dining area to balance the sound. They are always played together but currently I have to operate them as 2 separate zones. Please (Sonos) can you do an update to allow perminant grouping of zones. Thanks!
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The lack of easy grouping always bothered me. On Android there's Macronos as already said, an external app that nicely group speakers: I really can't understand why the same thing is not possible from within Sonos' own application.

I want to stress this, this is already available on a 5€ app but not on stock app of a systems that can cost well over a thousand euros. Macronos does a lot more useful things (e.g. starts playing when you enter your wi-fi network) but this is where it shines. For interested fellows, here's the app on Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.youtec.android.macronos

Probably, the most challenging problem is to understand how to design the UI to achieve this result (Macronos is a bit ugly). Anyway, it doesn't have to be perfect, maybe some feedback will help improving it, but just release *something*!
Wow, this request has been open for 10 years??

I'm frustrated with the experience of switching between groups > all > groups (as the groups have to be re-created when selecting all), but hadn't realised it was such a long-standing request!

Hopefully Sonos is looking at ways of improving this
jcop
If you have Android based controllers have a look at Macronos in the Google Play store.
jcop,

First post! Welcome to the forums.

SONOS does not often post comments on these forums and they ask that suggestions be posted at ask.sonos

I would not enjoy your scheme. I think that a list of Group "Favorites" would be less confusing than simultaneously displaying a room as its own entity and as part of a group. In my scheme one could click on a "Favorite" and instantly lash up or break down multiple groups. One Favorite could be "null" (no groups).

A nagging detail that must be worked out in any case is: what happens to a Queue, when players are lashed into Groups? Each player might have an existing Queue. Which Queue should survive after a Favorite is invoked? A player might also move from one Group to another when a Favorite is invoked. What should happen to it's current Queue? What happens to it's original Queue, existing before it was a member of any Group?
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First of all: I am a huge Sonos-fan. That being said there is one fact I found annoying: Once I create a group consisting of e.g. two seperate rooms the seperate rooms cease to exist. Thus every time i wish to only use one of the speakers I need to ungroup and if I change my mind back again I have to regroup them again. I propose a simple solution: Sonos, make it possible to create groups containg certain speakers and still keap the individual rooms on the list. In that way one can switch between group or individual configuration with only on click. AND there is no need for creating the same group over an over again.
sincerely
Jcop
+1, great idea...
I submitted this a little over 10 years ago. We should celebrate this!
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Perfect proposal. Sonos, please implement it!!!
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This is a very old request in fact, however Sonos no longer scan these forum for ideas, you need to go to ask.sonos.com and add your vote to the existing Idea there (or create a new one if there isn't an existing Idea).
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With Timers (no wake-up) I can say for example: at 2 o'clok play playlist 1 in room1 and stop at 3 o'clok, then from 3 o'clock to 4 play playlist 2 in room 1, then at 4 o'clock play playlist 3 but in a different room, in room2.

More better if I can create and save different groups of room so I can play with timers in groups of rooms.

Matteo
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The possibillity to create different groups of rooms with different names and to save them.

So someone can easely select the precreated group and send music to selected group.

Very usefull for example with timers (new functionality) that are different to wake-up.
With timers I can for example play different music in different groups of roum in different ours.

Matteo
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Tried to vote but it would not let me log in. (Yes, I have created an acct.).
+1 for the Virtual Zones!
What's 8 1/2 years between friends. Vote now !
Add your vote - https://ask.sonos.com/sonos/topics/virtual_zones?rfm=1
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Dear Sonos Team,

My feature request would be a way to save your room grouping group giving them individual names:
+1, Even more so now we have a Playbar and "link all zones (rooms)" causes no end of problems!
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Dear Sonos Team,

my feature request would be a way to save your room grouping group giving them individual names:

In the morning you want to be waken by your alarm clock in the sleeping room. But grouping it with the bathroom would be more convenient, so that you don’t need to take your controller and extra link it.
Usually you group the rooms before setting the timer.
But in the night you want your sleep timer to rock you in the sleep. The grouping with the bathroom from the morning wouldn’t make sense. Therefore you have to ungroup them again.

You can extrapolate this example to other situations where it makes sense that you have preferred/often used room-groupings.

Therefore I want to suggest programing a way to save groups of your rooms, giving them an individual name like ‘morning’ so that you don’t always need to ungroup, regroup, etc.

If you think that this optional feature would be to complicate for the average user, that you could also make a checkbox in the preference settings to unlock more detailed features.

Alexander
I'm surprised because there seems to be a lot of support for this issue here, but the corresponding ask.sonos thread doesn't seem to be very highly ranked. Does sonos look at these forums as much as the ask.sonos tickets when considering new features? It would seem that this would be one of the easiest features to implement with the biggest impact. Of course, I realize that's just my opinion, but still wish this was ranked higher on the "popular" category.

If you notice, the ask.sonos items which are high in votes mostly concern supporting operating systems and services (Windows 8, Spotify, Google Music, Windows 8 again, Xbox music), rather than features in Sonos hardware/software. It seems to me that these may be campaigns by fans of the service or OS, not necessarily fans of Sonos. The Windows 8 campaign is a definite, for the Windows 8 forum posts asking for support from non-Sonos users are easily found.
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I'm surprised because there seems to be a lot of support for this issue here, but the corresponding ask.sonos thread doesn't seem to be very highly ranked. Does sonos look at these forums as much as the ask.sonos tickets when considering new features? It would seem that this would be one of the easiest features to implement with the biggest impact. Of course, I realize that's just my opinion, but still wish this was ranked higher on the "popular" category.
Today is the 8th birthday of this thread !

Happy Virtual Birthday
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One has to wonder if everyone out there (except the people that have posted in this thread) only has one zone player.

Around 41% of my Sonos customers have a single player.

I have 3 myself, and have no desire for "virtual zones". My customer who has 24 players would likely have a different opinion though, everyone to their own.
Ahh, ya gotta love it.. Yet another update from sonos and still no "virtual zones." One has to wonder if everyone out there (except the people that have posted in this thread) only has one zone player.

Obviously, your priority is not the same as Sonos. Imagine that.

Just enjoy the music. Life's too short.

BTW - As you can see by my sig, I have 6 zones. :o

Best of Luck
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Ahh, ya gotta love it.. Yet another update from sonos and still no "virtual zones." One has to wonder if everyone out there (except the people that have posted in this thread) only has one zone player.
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How about circular firing squad? As you say, the damage was pretty much self-inflicted.

yes 😃
I wouldn't call this surrender.

How about circular firing squad? As you say, the damage was pretty much self-inflicted.