Virtual Zones and Zone Grouping

  • 27 February 2005
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I wouldn't call this surrender.
This implies that they fought and one side finally gave up.

Unfortunately Logitech management changed too often without a clear vision (nor the need to make it successful, as long as mice and Logitech Revue seemed to be more important).

For some reason Logitech completely ignored their target market AND their competition.

And obviously Sonos didn't need to care too much as well, otherwise they'd have solved some of their customer requests much faster.


You took my facetious remark far too seriously. :rolleyes:
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They were in an arms race; the other side surrendered:

http://www.geekintheforest.com/long-live-squeezebox/


I wouldn't call this surrender.
This implies that they fought and one side finally gave up.

Unfortunately Logitech management changed too often without a clear vision (nor the need to make it successful, as long as mice and Logitech Revue seemed to be more important).

For some reason Logitech completely ignored their target market AND their competition.

And obviously Sonos didn't need to care too much as well, otherwise they'd have solved some of their customer requests much faster.
I guess it shows just how many miles ahead of competing options that Sonos is, that they can completely ignore this meaningful request for almost a decade, and we all just kvetch and keep buying more. I wish that Sonos were in an arms race with a competing and similar system. Competition makes us all better.

They were in an arms race; the other side surrendered:

http://www.geekintheforest.com/long-live-squeezebox/
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I guess it shows just how many miles ahead of competing options that Sonos is, that they can completely ignore this meaningful request for almost a decade, and we all just kvetch and keep buying more. I wish that Sonos were in an arms race with a competing and similar system. Competition makes us all better.
you would "think" the product development team was listening and would provide insights on potential implementation.
As you would learn from a casual browse of these forums, Sonos doesn't publish a development roadmap. A matching thread on ask.sonos is labelled as "under consideration", which is probably as good an indication as you're likely to see.
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Considering the concept was suggested almost 8 years ago I'm guessing this vote is rather pointless, but thought I would offer this suggestion instead. With 158 replies, and almost 15K views, you would "think" the product development team was listening and would provide insights on potential implementation.

I don't think you all realize how useful this would be. I'm up to 8 zones now, and unlinking and relinking is becoming a chore. Please advise of challenges in implementing this feature, or just...do it!

Love the Sonos system - this would make it even better.
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This has been discussed many times before but it's worth bumping. I would have thought fairly easy to impliment and a boon to us Sonos addicts with whole house systems.

Terry
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The ability to group zones then store then as presets would be nice.
For example....
"Party" = living room, kitchen, deck
"Dinner" = dining, kitchen
"Wake up" = m. Bed, m bath, kitchen

Etc
It would be great to have speaker setup profiles.

For example, sometimes I have my 2S5's as a stereo pair, sometimes not (when I take one to the garden). In the latter situation, I want it sometimes linked (same music inside and outside), sometimes not (different music inside as outside).

These three scenarios should be storeable as profiles allowing to change the speaker setup quickly. Today it is quite a hassle to set it up, to change and to change it back again.
I'd love the ability to be able to customise/create/save play modes, i.e. when you group Zones together you have the option to be able to 'Select All - Party Mode' but that's it. I think this would be a real useful function. Example, I have 5 Zones on one floor of my house, I want to play the same music to each Zone, right now I have to add each Zone to a 'Group'. It would be great to create a mode that I've already added the 5 Zones too i.e. 'All Ground Floor' etc. This mode would complement the 'Select All - Party Mode' etc. Hope that makes sense...

+1.... It would be nice to have the option of "favourite" groups....

These two players....
These three... in addition to the party mode....
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I'd love the ability to be able to customise/create/save play modes, i.e. when you group Zones together you have the option to be able to 'Select All - Party Mode' but that's it. I think this would be a real useful function. Example, I have 5 Zones on one floor of my house, I want to play the same music to each Zone, right now I have to add each Zone to a 'Group'. It would be great to create a mode that I've already added the 5 Zones too i.e. 'All Ground Floor' etc. This mode would complement the 'Select All - Party Mode' etc. Hope that makes sense...
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+1 especially if the virtual zone could be used in an alarm setup
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+1 on ability to have pre-defined groups.

Would be great to use one click to select a group of multiple Sonos units to play from (i.e. “Party” Group = Sonos units A,B,C,D, while “Downstairs” Group = just Sonos units A and C).
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mdfuller,
Also, I coded a few similar threads with the keyword "lock". You can keyword search for these.


Great work!
Helps me find the other threads and realise that there are so many other people on this forum longing for the same possibilities for voluntary restriction of controllers and zones as I do.

Especially the jukebox and restrict controllers threads go very well with this one. Sometimes, a baby sleeping in a room with a zone as (clock) radio doesn't work well with "All Rooms - Party Mode". If that could be solved, I might actually come round to buying a third zone 😮
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Thanks buzz! Very helpful.
mdfuller,

As you can see, I moved your post. Hopefully, as a member of a choir, you'll have more influence than a single voice in the wilderness.

Also, I coded a few similar threads with the keyword "lock". You can keyword search for these.
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For example, lock a zone and require a passcode (i.e. cell phone lock) to start playing music. Basically, looking for something to prevent drunk people from accidentally cranking zones that are outside and waking the neighbors at 4AM?
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Just a +1 for this feature. I actually contacted support about this last week for this very thing, and they said it would be forwarded to development.

Given the length of time this thread has been running I don't know if we'll ever see it, but it would be awesome if there were a feature set to create custom groups, possibly with presets too (or presets being a different feature).

Don't sit on it Sonos boffins, get it done! Else what else are you guys doing all day! :-)

Cheers,
Tom

PS - This forum thread sounds very similar to this one, but explores the idea of user-programmable macros as well as custom groups, which sounds interesting.
forums.sonos.com/showthread.php?t=4528&
I did not read the whole thread, sorry.

When you get some time, read this Thread and do some searching on others. There's a wealth of good information posted here.

But I'm a new and so far happy SONOS user.


Welcome to the world of Sonos and these Forums as well.

The only annoying thing is, that I have to group my Play:3 and Play:5 every time I turn on the SONOS stuff...


If by "turning off" you mean actually disconnecting the Sonos units from their power source, then yes, you'll need to re-link your players into your preferred grouping arrangement. You will also need to wait for them to re-connect with each other on power-up prior to re-grouping them, and whatever was in your Queue will need to be replaced.

So do I understand this thread, that no PERMANENT linking (grouping) is possible???


As long as the Sonos units remain connected to a power source, then they will retain their grouping configuration (and current Queue contents). This is how they were designed - to be left 'on' (not playing) and they go into a light power usage state.

If you choose to remove power from the units, they will not retain certain information. This also places additional stress on the units as you will power-cycle them repeatedly over their (now shortened) lifetime. There's some good posts by several of the Moderators and Senior Forum members on this issue and on the power draw of each unit when 'dormant'.

You'll have to decide what makes better sense for you and your situation.

Best of Luck
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I did not read the whole thread, sorry.

But I'm a new and so far happy SONOS user. The only annoying thing is, that I have to group my Play:3 and Play:5 every time I turn on the SONOS stuff...

So do I understand this thread, that no PERMANENT linking (grouping) is possible???
New to Sonos but it didn't long to see the need for the ideas expressed in this thread. Disappointing to see how old this thread is and that Sonos has not implemented them.
What I would like is to have a setting that would tell a given Play:3 to re-link to the last group that it was in. ...
Merged with existing thread, which covers the concept of permanent zone groupings.
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What I would like is to have a setting that would tell a given Play:3 to re-link to the last group that it was in.

I've got a Play:3 in the master bedroom, that I would like to be able to drag into the master bath, then drag it back into the bedroom later. In my setup, Play:3 reboots surprisingly quickly, but I always have to relink it. Ideally this unit would be playing a source in a group and when I move it and plug it in it'll rejoin that group after rebooting. I understand it won't be instant, but in my house these unit seems to reboot and become visable to a controller really fast, and eliminating this manual relinking would make this truly portable (as long as I have a power cord.)

EDIT: Thanks to ratty for merging the thread -- apologies for being lazy and not searching before posting mine.
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+1

Would seem a reasonable and worthwhile feature.
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+1
I totally agree.