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Tired Of Waiting For Google home Integration



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Well ..... a standalone Playbar.....has pretty good sound. I did finally set mine up though in 5.1 sound and wow that is pretty impressive.

I actually have a lot of rooms with Play:1s in them. When you do trueplay tuning I think they work very well filling a room with sound (not for critical listening certainly - but great in filling room with excellent sound).
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There is plenty right about Sonos and plenty wrong. I would not say Google home integration is all wrong or even slo to coming. If you understand Google, you may begin to question different things. In Google if you don't have a public account but your own domain...well there is a few things that don't work right in Google Family or Google home You can't share family music , There is no family sharing of purchases, you can't integrate your calendars into Google home etc. All of these Alexa can do even with personal (your) own domain accounts. Go figure..I figure it is the amount of privacy that people are willing to released with a free public gmail account. But if your a paying customer...well they have to protect your confidentiality more- So is sonos the blame because they are slow at bringing in voice control , Or is the issue more complex than one could imagine? I think perhaps it's more complex. Now what has sonos got wrong - The use of optical cables and not HDMI. Having to rely on a TV to pass a certain sound format in order for 5.1 to some what work. The limit on the types of 5.1 that can be passed. Today there are plenty of higher end sound bars that surpass Sonos in many ways...but none offer the same way to doing Music...which is what I like about Sonos. So when it comes to Google home and Sonos practice patience people and then buy a single Alexa echo or a Sonos one to take care of that voice itch you have with Sonos. When it comes to picking out a 5.1 wireless sound bar system...do your homework... today offers a much better offerings...and hey you can always add a Connect from Sonos if you are so inclined.
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Do your feelings have any correlation with facts on how long it takes to do? It will be here soon enough.
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Thank you all for sharing your opinions.
I was interested in acquiring Sonos brand products for my home. After joining the Sonos community and reading many posts relating to Google Home and Alexa, I’ve decided to save my money.

I have multiple google speakers throughout the house.
Google’s Home App now lets users group speakers allowing me to wirelessly stream music (Google Play Music, YouTube Red) throughout my home.

A relatively recent update also lets me turn a Google Home speaker into a Bluetooth speaker.

I understand the frustration of author of this post. Why should you have to add a chromecast audio to your Sonos speaker? I get it.

I rather not be bothered with it. I’ll find a decent sound bar for my Living Room TV and leave the voice control functions to the multiple google homes throughout the house. Which by the way are very cost effective and sound great.


Actually you don't need a chromcast to get sonos to play music with google home. I do it with a work around right now. I can control the volume, the radio stations and my playlist with my google home mini. That plays all my music onto my sonos system.

Only thing I can not do it bluetooth to the sonos. But I never use bluetooth for that anyways. I only bluetooth to my headphone and travel speakers when I am away from home.

The fact of the matter is that sonos only announce that google home ability last dec and that it is coming this year. I am sure it will be out before july. Then I can dump most of my work around.

But Sonos is not the answer for everyone. I personally do not use the sonos home theater system. I prefer my old Yamaha receiver or my onkyo setup for home tether. Sonos is my primary home multi room music system. And that is where it fit nicely in my home.

I wanted a multi home system that will give me stereo sound in every room. And it is the only system that I found that fit my needs for that ability and the ability to play apple music. As I am not a fan of google play music, amazon music. Spotify is okay, but I have a big apple environment. The sonos was just the right system when I started out 10 years ago. And it has grown to keep up with my changing music environment.

As you have google speakers through out your home, it would make sense to stay with that system. It is a large investment. And while the review of the google home max is mix, it still is a good speaker. One once you adjust it to your preference. It will sound good. Out the box most speaker need some adjusting. For the rooms that do not require such a large and powerful speaker. I would look at some of the JBL Link speakers. They do sound better then the google home and google home mini speakers and have google assistance and chromcast built in.

But don't let this thread give you the wrong impression of sonos. We are talking about only 6 months since the announcement they will support google assistant sometime this spring. HomePod took even longer to get to market from announcement.
I expect a free update to work with Google Home after 10 years b/c after 10 years Sonos bricked my cr100 (with no comparable replacement).
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Alexa and google both came out years ago. Has nothing to do with Sonos implementation. Unless I’m mistaken sonosnnecer said they were working on google home integration until last year. With Alexa announced October prior.
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The ridiculous part is that Airplay 2 was released one month ago, yet it is going to be supported next month. Google Home, as stated by thienedits was released 1.5 years ago and they didn't even care enough to announce a a date except 2018. At least we see where Sonos focus lies, I'll keep that in mind when I buy speakers in the future.
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The ridiculous part is that Airplay 2 was released one month ago, yet it is going to be supported next month. Google Home, as stated by thienedits was released 1.5 years ago and they didn't even care enough to announce a a date except 2018. At least we see where Sonos focus lies, I'll keep that in mind when I buy speakers in the future.

Implimentimg airplay2 is a mich easier integration than google home. First off, airplay 2 is a one way integration, just receiving an audio stream. Google is 2-way, with all sorts of cammands going back and forth.

Airplay 2 has been in development by both Apple and Sonos for way more than this past month. It'snot as if sonos suddenly dropped google development and put all developers on airplay work right when airplay was released. At the same time, you don't really know how Google is prioritizing it's part of the integration with Sonos.

And why single out airlay 2? Why are you not similarly bothered that sonso created a new product while it could have devoted those resources to Google inregration.

Last, is there another smart speaker company that will have Google integration before Sonos? I could be wrong, but i'm not aware of it.

As far as annoucijg a date, that she reonforce that it's complex, and they don't want to give a firm date only to end up missing it...like Apple did with the homepod. It shouldn't be taken to mean that Sonos doesn't care.

I get the frustration abouting having to wait, but that doesn't change facts about why google home integration isn't here already.
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Good list. I had seen some of those before but forgotten it.

I would add though that even i terms of one way integration, airplay 2 and google are noy that similar. Airplay 2 streams theough your phone. Take the phone off the network and the stream dies. Google integration is cloud based. Your voice command goes to the google cloud, then to Sonos cloud, back to yours sonos system where ut streams the audio directly.


I honestly was not aware of this. I own no Apple products so I just assumed that Airplay 2 would work the same way as Google Assistant/Alexa does. In that case I am sorry for my ignorance. This could indeed change the complexity of the integration (I am not familiar with either of those APIs so it is hard to say from my point of view.)
In my opinion, I would say that Sonos hasn’t forgotten anything, conveniently or not, and continues to work on the effort to meet their promise of integrating with Google Home within their stated deadline, which was “in 2018” as I recall. As frustrating as that is, I’ve not seen Sonos miss a promise that was made previously.
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My understanding from statements I have read from Sonos is that unfortunately there is no option to integrate either Alexa or Google Home for owners of the Playbar hence my comments.
My understanding from statements I have read from Sonos is that unfortunately there is no option to integrate either Alexa or Google Home for owners of the Playbar hence my comments.

I can ask Alexa to start anything from Pandora, TuneIn, Amazon Music, etc on my Playbar, no problem. Not sure what you mean. Just need an Echo Dot...
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I was more interested in the Google Home devices as I think Google has a much better grasp of other services/knowledge.

I don't think any of these so call smart devices currently have the ability to search a NAS to play your own music tracks. This for me would be the perfect Smart Device as I've no use for a paid for music service.

I don't think any of these so call smart devices currently have the ability to search a NAS to play your own music tracks. This for me would be the perfect Smart Device as I've no use for a paid for music service.


https://www.mymediaalexa.com/
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Is that for a playlist you create on the Sonos app first or can Alexa search your NAS music folder. It's the latter which is my real interest as I have thousands of music tracks and want to be able to say e.g. hey Alexa play 'Brown Sugar.
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I won't be buying another Sonos product until they integrate with Google home. This is silicon valley most products support Google home and Alexa more than 50% even work with airplay.. these delays have gotten out of hand and there is no reason for the delays. I have already started looking into alternatives and once I start selling off my Sonos products I won't be looking back. I hope the integration comes soon because my patients are running out ( I have 2500$ invested! So hard to walk away but worth it if they don't value my future business, 2 more rooms left to go.)

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I'm simply exploring what my options are for the Playbar. I'm not really interested in compiling my own playlist in the Sonos app then getting Alexa to play it. That's not what I call real functionality. I may as well simply play the music directly from the Sonos App.

As said in my previous post I want something like Alexa or Google Home to search my NAS music folder for individual tracks. Why subscribe to a music service when I have all the music I want on my own NAS. It's a valid question.
+1 for Google home integration. It's the major blocker for me to switch from Amazon Alexa.
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We all know it's coming sometime this year... Sonos has said it will be coming this year... there's only a few more months left, so it can't be too far away.

If you have the time and technical ability, throw your hat in for the beta program, and maybe you'll get the joy of being selected to participate in the testing even. No guarantees of course... I'm not a Sonos employee, and they often select test participants based on specific criteria they're looking for... but it can't hurt. 🙂
I own 3 one's that i'am waiting to use with google ok 😞 hope they finally bring it.... Its really annoing here in switzerland where you have to even use a german account to use alexa 😠
CEO just said yesterday they want it ready by XMas shopping season. November, at the latest.
Oh good grief Charlie Brown, another three months.....
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Well from what i've read google, only gave permission to join assistant after sonos threatened a patent lawsuit. So I wouldn't expect google to bend over to meet any sonos deadlines.
Sonos also has to get alexa and google assistant to play nicely together, and keep them playing nicely together, quite a task.
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The decision to implement Alexa first was made well over a year ago, at a time when Alexa was clearly in more homes than Google was (still is, though Google is catching up). It also seems pretty clear that Alexa was a more willing partner. Then you have to figure that Amazon has a store front that sells a lot Sonos products. There are a lot of other reasons other than just "which one works better" that surely played into the decision.

As far as it being too late, I don't think. As you pointed out, there are plenty of smart speakers out there right now, covering all sorts of price points and quality levels. What is still very much in infant stages is the integrations with TV audio, multirooom, and voice control.

I keep seeing articles where Sonos execs say that they made a mistake and got into voice control too late. Maybe, but they seem to be ahead of much of the competition still, and breaking ground in integratate voice in other areas.
Well from what i've read google, only gave permission to join assistant after sonos threatened a patent lawsuit. So I wouldn't expect google to bend over to meet any sonos deadlines.
Sonos also has to get alexa and google assistant to play nicely together, and keep them playing nicely together, quite a task.


Tell me, have any of your tin-foil hat conspiracy theories about Sonos ever come true?

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