But could you remind me where Sonos claims to be a hi-fi company?
If "whether or not it's audible is completely irrelevant", then why doesn't one simply convert to 16/44.1 and be done with it?
And at square one, Sonos stated they do not believe the format gives any advantage, therefore they do not support it.
And by the way, Hi-Res music is most certainly not "an increasingly more common format." It is a niche of a niche of a niche format. It has never broken over the 1.0% market share in the 20 years it has existed, despite every one of those years the Hi-Res fans tell us it is "an increasingly more common format."
Yes, that's the workaround. But there's extra work in workarounds. Would be ideal if Sonos supported this sort of thing natively. For me, I don't bother doing this because my other audio players in the house play 24/96 fine, so I just listen to those albums when I'm in the other rooms.
And this is much more worrying. They should be trying to serve the customer instead of pulling an Apple and trying to shove their preferences down customers' throats.
It's niche, but its usage IS increasing. That's a factual statement.
SONOS is serving the 95% of its customers who are streaming, usually at 256kbps AAC or 320kbps MP3. Serving them quite well, while the tiny customer base who want "hi rez" can simply move to other systems by companies that eagerly cater to their delusions.
Not worrying at all. Sonos determines the market they want to perform in, not you. They have decided the customers who wish to play Hi-Res music are not their intended market. Time to find another manufacturer.
So what? It's not growing at a rate that justifies supporting it
You're pointing out the obvious. Of course they determine their market. It's not like I'm suggesting government intervene and force them to support what I want. I'm pointing out the same thing as you -- they apparently have no interest in serving a subset of the market. We're saying the same thing, but you're oddly defending their decision and, like the other poster, for no apparent reason..
Several manufacturers disagree with you.
Sonos doesn't have to "cater to delusions", they just have to support a variety of audio formats. It shouldn't be that hard, and plenty of other manufacturers without Sonos' resources have been able to do it successfully. You're making excuses for no apparent reason.
[Several manufacturers disagree with you.
You will not find any scientific literature completely discounting double blind A/B testing, either with audio or in general. On the other hand, you will find scientific studies, from respected publications, that accept double blind A/B testing as a standard for measuring heard differences between two audio sources. In reality, that is all you need. And until someone proves the ineffectiveness of double blind A/B testing of audio sources and submits it to a scientific publication for critique, I'm afraid all the protesting you hear on audiophile sites is about as relevant as them screaming in the wind.
Have you seen this:https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/aes-paper-digest-sensitivity-and-reliability-of-abx-blind-testing.186/It is a summary and discussion of a 1991 paper in which the audiophile preferred "long term listening" test was compared with quick switching A/B/X testing. The self-described "golden eared" audiophiles failed to identify deliberate distortion put into the source chain in a long term test, whereas engineers using A/B/X found it immediately.
That had me laughing. Not only did the 'golden ears' of the Audiophile/Take Home Group fail to detect in a long-term test whether they'd been handed a black box with a 2.5% distortion circuit, it would appear that their in-built aversion to A/B stopped them from even switching the tape loop in and out as a comparator.
it appears there is still some debate on the double blind test methodology
In my view the abx is the way forward but the lack of peer reviewed, repeatable studies indicated to me that it is not yet at the gold standard level. The lack of peer reviewed studies is not the only problem. Sample sizes are small, confounding variables not controlled etc. With a bit ore work I think that abx may become scientifically established.
... What I propose is that based on established scientific methodology (e.g. psychology and social science hypothesis testing research methods etc.), abx testing needs work both in terms of methodology validation as well as the hypothesis testing results themselves. ...
You still haven't stated whether you are unconvinced by the DB ABX approach itself, or by the manner in which it has been employed (i.e., the specific studies). I can't untangle it in what you've posted so far.Which is it?
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