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I understand that SonosNet is allegedly superior to Wi-Fi/AirPlay for streaming.. but I hope Sonos re-considers the decision to not implement AirPlay. Now with AirPlay 2 supporting HomeKit integration, I really do not desire purchasing a Sonos Connect & Airport Express for every room in order to stream to all of my Sonos speakers outside of the Sonos app and tie-in to HomeKit.
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Best answer by Jeff S 9 August 2018, 19:31

This is an older thread, but I wanted to post and update to make sure everyone knows that we've added AirPlay 2 support to Sonos. You can read more about the integration here.
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This is an older thread, but I wanted to post and update to make sure everyone knows that we've added AirPlay 2 support to Sonos. You can read more about the integration here.
I understand that SonosNet is allegedly superior to Wi-Fi/AirPlay for streaming.. but I hope Sonos re-considers the decision to not implement AirPlay. Now with AirPlay 2 supporting HomeKit integration, I really do not desire purchasing a Sonos Connect & Airport Express for every room in order to stream to all of my Sonos speakers outside of the Sonos app and tie-in to HomeKit.

I'm streaming Tidal from my laptop via AirPlay and it sounds great. I think downsampling the masters still results in a superior sound. Thoughts?
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They will play Airplay 2 if they are group with Sonos One, Plabase, or Play:5g2.

ON their own they dont' have the processing power to decode the airplay stream (has nothing to do with them actually being speakers). If we see a Connect gen2 or Amp gen2 they will do airplay natively then.
So, since the Connect and Amp aren't speakers, they seem outside of the scope of the announcement, but sounds like no Airplay 2 for them???
Sonos have missed the boat with voice. Where is Alexa-alike support?

Coming October 4th


Sonos missed the boat with their own app eco system. Why isn’t their a stream to sonos sdk? (Missed revenue!)

There is, you are very uninformed.


Sonos did ok with their Spotify Connect support but you cannot stop.


Stay tuned.


Innovate or integrate please Sonos.


Please name ONE multiroom system that's even remotely as innovative as Sonos.


AirPlay 2 will buy you time.


If you were paying attention at all, you will have read the Sonos rep's response above.


@ chicks,

The official announcement of the Play:1 for Alexa support was on October 4th ... not many new about it prior to then. You can't blame the person you quoted based on their post September 12, 2017.

Comparable Competition to Sonos ... Naim [NAIM MU-SO QB: AirPlay, Spotify Connect, UPnP, Tidal, Bluetooth, USB, optical digital, analogue, Wi-Fi, ethernet & multi-room] , Bang & Olufsen (which supports AirPlay), Devialet Phantom, MASTER & DYNAMIC, and a few more. Seems you maybe uninformed? What a quality wireless speaker can play and connect to in terms of features/services ... is a matter of software and licensing agreements (including using a services, or API's brand). Either Sonos enables more of these through the strong demand of their customers or soon enough they'll loose these customers to others that will. That's free enterprise, not sure why anyone would want otherwise.


Hi everyone, a lot of great activity in here, glad to see you're all interested.

We’re encouraged by the dramatic improvements Apple has made to Airplay with Airplay 2, and we’re actively working with them to see how these improvements might deliver a great experience for Sonos owners. We don’t have specific details to share today, but we’re constantly pushing to bring new features and options to Sonos all the time.

When there's any news or plans available in the future we'll be sure to let you all know.


The official Sonos rep response is vague and non-descript in full thus non-conclusive.

AppleInsider:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/10/04/sonos-announces-support-for-apples-airplay-2-wireless-standard-coming-in-2018

Announced by Sono's Allen Mask at a media event in New York, AirPlay 2 support means users will be able to control Sonos speakers via HomeKit and Siri, directing music to the hardware via their voice.

AirPlay 2 support for Sonos devices is scheduled to arrive next year, Mask said.

"There had to be a seamless connection between Sonos and Apple, and so we waited until we could get it right, together," he said.

The addition of AirPlay 2 will let users control their entire Sonos system by just speaking. In an onstage demonstration, Mask showed how a user could interact with a Sonos speaker to skip ahead to a next track playing on a wirelessly connected iPad.

Support for AirPlay 2 is systemwide, meaning users can have sound come through Sonos speakers when not only listening to music, but also playing videos, games or apps.



TheVerge:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/4/16418944/sonos-airplay-2-support-apple-ios-siri-2018

Sonos just announced that it’ll be adding support for Apple’s new AirPlay 2 standard to its speakers next year. In addition to making it easier to play music from iOS devices, AirPlay 2 means that — much like the recently announced Alexa support — users will be able to use Siri on iOS devices and eventually Apple’s HomePod to control their Sonos systems.

AirPlay 2 also enables multi-room support for AirPlay speakers, meaning that you’ll be able to integrate Sonos devices with other AirPlay 2 speakers for a seamless experience across your home — including Apple’s HomePod, which was originally announced as a competitor to Sonos’ devices.

Unlike the original AirPlay, AirPlay 2 doesn't require special hardware anymore, but is entirely software-based, which allows for companies like Sonos to add support to their devices after the fact.


For those Sonos owners participating in this thread that are against AirPlay for whatever reason or not ... you need to think beyond your lifestyle or the conveniences we all have and consider those with no arms or ability to use their arms and feet. I'm not joking on this either ... born, war veterans/casualties, those suffered in major car, plane, train accidents etc. They have the right like all of us to enjoy their music, audio books, computer and TV/Movies as sound coming through their Sonos speakers as well.

For those of you that think AirPlay was a failure clearly have no idea what AirPlay enables and how it intergrates into HomeKit ... especially for someone that's a quadraplegic ... such as Todd:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PoE9tHg_P0

Have a look ... and think ... how an AirPlay speaker would help him using a computer: reading accessibility via Voice while in another room, door bell ringing over loud music he could be listening too, home theatre, enhancing a video call.

Man some people need to get out of their own world to consider the benefits of enabling a simple API or feature that an existing hardware can support, support well, and enhance lives beyond just convenience.
FYI, this was announced officially today. :)

https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/4/16418944/sonos-airplay-2-support-apple-ios-siri-2018
That's ok, Sonos loves second hand sales. The new owners actually want the product, and tend to buy more. Anything to get them in the family.

Perhaps you didn't read the designated answer in this thread, a post from a Sonos rep confirming that they are actively working with Apple concerning Airplay 2 support? :8


I did notice the 3 month old non-answer with no followup. Since then we have seen a Sonos app update solely to enable user data collection, which I find deplorable, and there have been announcements made about developments of other features (new hardware for Alexa integration), which I have no interest in and which suggests Sonos' focus and direction is not with my use cases.

I've had over a year of enjoyment of this setup, but it's time to move on before it becomes further obsolete.
I will be selling my Sonos surround setup due to lack of airplay support.

I've enjoyed the Sonos experience until now, but other solutions that include airplay support offer a more compelling experience for me from my many apple devices.


Perhaps you didn't read the designated answer in this thread, a post from a Sonos rep confirming that they are actively working with Apple concerning Airplay 2 support? :8
I will be selling my Sonos surround setup due to lack of airplay support.

I've enjoyed the Sonos experience until now, but other solutions that include airplay support offer a more compelling experience for me from my many apple devices.
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You can use this https://sourceforge.net/projects/aircast-airupnp/ and you'll have AirPlay on your Sonos players. Just set the latency parameter to the 1000:2000 for Sonos and that'll work
Have bought Sonos home theatre recently, mostly happy with them, and the only downside is what's mentioned in this thread: no airplay support

While Sonos app is great and has lots of contents within, not being able to simply play any music from other apps in my mobile is frustrating. Yes there are alternative methods e.g. Apple TV which I happen to own one, but for a high price audio speaker brand like Sonos, I expect simpler ways. And many times I just want to listen to music, but if I play through Apple TV, I have to turn on my television otherwise there's no audio output.

Thinking of returning my Sonos speakers if couldn't see any improvements recently. Preventing ur customers from using ur speakers through other apps is really not a wise thought.

Btw: Does anyone know is it possible to use Sonos speakers as the audio output of my windows laptop? It's not as urgent problem as airplay but would still be happy if it's feasible.
Sigh.
Sonos have missed the boat with voice. Where is Alexa-alike support?

Coming October 4th


Sonos missed the boat with their own app eco system. Why isn’t their a stream to sonos sdk? (Missed revenue!)

There is, you are very uninformed.


Sonos did ok with their Spotify Connect support but you cannot stop.


Stay tuned.


Innovate or integrate please Sonos.


Please name ONE multiroom system that's even remotely as innovative as Sonos.


AirPlay 2 will buy you time.


If you were paying attention at all, you will have read the Sonos rep's response above.
Sonos have missed the boat with voice. Where is Alexa-alike support?

Sonos missed the boat with their own app eco system. Why isn’t their a stream to sonos sdk? (Missed revenue!)

Sonos forces up-sell to Play 5 for line in support with no support for virtual line in.

Sonos did ok with their Spotify Connect support but you cannot stop.

Innovate or integrate please Sonos.

AirPlay 2 will buy you time.
+1 for AirPlay 2/HomeKit support. This isn't an area where Apple and Sonos would compete, but rather complement each other.
I like using Apple products and it would be nice to control my sonos speakers from the control panel and with HomeKit instead of having to use the sonos app all the time. Airplay 2 support would allow this. Sonos is already on the pricey end so anyone buying it would consider the HomePod, especually is Apple ever comes out with a sound bar. Consider Siri and airplay 2 support before Apple steals your customers with its HomePod.
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And BTW, I don't want Airplay to impress people who visit. I would use it all the time. I play a lot of podcasts, so have playlists set up on my phone. It would be great to continue listening when I get home on my Sonos(s). Yes, I can access podcasts through the app but it's not as simple as a podcast app on the phone. It would be soooooo much simpler if I could just pickup where I left off.
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Couldn't agree more with how great Airplay support would be. I was at a friends on the weekend who has B & O speakers. I connected to her wifi network, POW. Done. The music app, podcast aps, it seemed anything could use her speakers. It was so simple, so easy. Come on Sonos, join the party please.
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Have never really figured out why Sonos simply wouldn't pay the royalties and get Airplay running on their systems. It's not going to add a huge percentage to what isn't exactly a super cheap system. I have Airport Express's running off a few of my Connect Amp's and it can be so convenient playing from any music app I have. I look at Sonos speakers as simply wireless speakers and feel we shouldn't be locked down with Sonos' app centric design. I appreciate not every app like Spotify will have native Sonos control but surely Airplay is the easiest & most user convenient solution to enable all apps to play music to Sonos.
I hope Sonos becomes more responsive to customers. I had already been holding off on future purchases since I had to kluge together support for AirPlay using a Connect and Denon receiver. My other biggest issue was wanting voice control for times I have my hands full or am in the shower etc. With the HomePod announcement, Apple has solutions to both these issues. I'm strongly considering switching. Apple put a shot across Sonos's bow and called Sonos out by name.

I found it interesting they called them out as not being a smart speaker, but I think Sonos has made great strides in introducing lots of cool software updates. I doubt the HomePod will be able to touch the quality of having a Playbar, two Plays, and a sub.. The microphone inclusion might be nice but my phone & watch already do that. Time will tell.

I just hope they decide to implement AirPlay 2 support. My next option would be to setup an "AirPlay server", with an AirPort Express key and modified Sonos firmware for a hacked solution to AirPlay streaming. I don't think that will work for the HomeKit integration though.


Plex media server + sonos.
Easy.
I love that this question was answered in the way that it was. Makes me excited for possible home-kit integrated Sonos speakers....
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It would be funny to see that airplay2 infringed sonos propietary rights. And then Apple pulled sonos app from Apple store as a negotition move.:8
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I'm not basing my assumption on gossip, but on Apple going on stage, throwing up a picture of Sonos Play:3 and essentially saying "our product is better then their's". It doesn't invoke thoughts of "I bet these two companies are going add integration soon". But I don't know, it's just an assumption.

They also have made a lifetime of jabs at Microsoft, yet they have products and services that work with them. Just because they want to compete, doesn't mean they don't like Sonos or their staff. Likely wouldn't stop them from taking a big check for licensing, if that's what takes place to get it implemented.
I'm not basing my assumption on gossip, but on Apple going on stage, throwing up a picture of Sonos Play:3 and essentially saying "our product is better then their's". It doesn't invoke thoughts of "I bet these two companies are going add integration soon". But I don't know, it's just an assumption.