All,
Would you mind listing your TV and mode/year in this thread if you have tested it and confirmed it will pass DD 5.1 to the Playbar and from what source. This will help those of us in the market for a new TV and playbar.
Thanks
MikeB.
List of TV’s that will pass 5.1 from HDMI Sources to Playbar
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Hi Everyone,
I am new to Sonos and new to this forum. Last week I bought my first Sonos component, Play:3, which I have in the kitchen. I am so impressed that I have decided to expand Sonos into my living room. My plan is: 2 x Play:3, Sub and Playbar.
However, before I go ahead I would like to know if my TV, Sony KDL 46w4000, is able to pass through 5.1.
The manual says:"Set to Auto when equipment compatible with Dolby Digital is connected, and set to PCM when non-compatible equipment is connected".
Does this mean that my TV is able to pass through 5.1?
I am new to Sonos and new to this forum. Last week I bought my first Sonos component, Play:3, which I have in the kitchen. I am so impressed that I have decided to expand Sonos into my living room. My plan is: 2 x Play:3, Sub and Playbar.
However, before I go ahead I would like to know if my TV, Sony KDL 46w4000, is able to pass through 5.1.
The manual says:"Set to Auto when equipment compatible with Dolby Digital is connected, and set to PCM when non-compatible equipment is connected".
Does this mean that my TV is able to pass through 5.1?
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LG 47LA740V LED works with 5.1
Had to update the firmware manually on my Sky+ Box (press Backup on the box itself during power on) and wait 10 mins. After that 5.1 everywhere.
Had to update the firmware manually on my Sky+ Box (press Backup on the box itself during power on) and wait 10 mins. After that 5.1 everywhere.
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To enable on an LG tv....
Credit to mike at avsforums:
To enabl DD 5.1 passthrough, first access the service menu. Just go to the AC3 EDID D/L menu and click the "Start" button. All lines change to AC3(ok) and now your DD 5.1 coming in through your HDMI inputs is passed as DD 5.1 on the optical out of the TV! No more DD 5.1 --> Stereo downconvert.
Credit to mike at avsforums:
To enabl DD 5.1 passthrough, first access the service menu. Just go to the AC3 EDID D/L menu and click the "Start" button. All lines change to AC3(ok) and now your DD 5.1 coming in through your HDMI inputs is passed as DD 5.1 on the optical out of the TV! No more DD 5.1 --> Stereo downconvert.
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Just got my LG LW550T (2011) to pass through 5.1 dolby digital from hdmi to optical. Required access to the service menu to enable the function. Hopefully this will be of use for some of you LG owners out there. Very happy with my playbar now.
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Sad to report, the Sharp 80LE632U doesn't seem to pass 5.1 through optical. Tested it with Motorola STB (U-verse) pushing HBO/Cinemax movies, and a PS3 pushing different BluRay's. No matter what I tried, everything was in stereo.
So I'm left with a dilemma. Pick up the TOSLink HDMI switch to replace my RocketFish one (which sits in a closet in rear of room) and run optical from it all the way over ceiling back down to TV, or just stick with stereo surround? It sounds like most new BluRay's are encoded in DTS which the soundbar can't decode regardless if it's coming from TV or AVR/Switch. Hopefully this gets fixed by a firmware update.
The current surround set up sounds pretty damn good, even if it's a stereo signal trumped up to sound like 5.1. How much better/clearer would it really be in DD? I don't really have a frame of reference to compare.
Hoping the next gen soundbar Sonos puts out has an HDMI input which could be run directly from the TV. This would get around the compliance thing wouldn't it? As the TV simply gets its input through HDMI 1, and passes it out over HDMI 2?
So I'm left with a dilemma. Pick up the TOSLink HDMI switch to replace my RocketFish one (which sits in a closet in rear of room) and run optical from it all the way over ceiling back down to TV, or just stick with stereo surround? It sounds like most new BluRay's are encoded in DTS which the soundbar can't decode regardless if it's coming from TV or AVR/Switch. Hopefully this gets fixed by a firmware update.
The current surround set up sounds pretty damn good, even if it's a stereo signal trumped up to sound like 5.1. How much better/clearer would it really be in DD? I don't really have a frame of reference to compare.
Hoping the next gen soundbar Sonos puts out has an HDMI input which could be run directly from the TV. This would get around the compliance thing wouldn't it? As the TV simply gets its input through HDMI 1, and passes it out over HDMI 2?
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Thanks ratty!
Go to About My Sonos System in any controller and look under the Playbar item for Audio In.
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I've got a Sharp 80" 632u with Playbar/Sub/P3x2. Is there somewhere in the app or desktop software that shows what the audio format currently being output is? Obviously there's no display on any of the Sonos components to let me know if it's PCM (stereo) or true DD5.1/DTS.
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Just to let people know the samsung UE55ES8000 will pass 5.1.
My Sky box is connected to the tv by hdmi the play is then connected to the tv. When i checked about my sonos system it says
Audio In: Dolby Digital 5.1this has only been possibly from today as my sky box had had a firmware update and now allows me to choose the sound setting for hdmi
My Sky box is connected to the tv by hdmi the play is then connected to the tv. When i checked about my sonos system it says
Audio In: Dolby Digital 5.1this has only been possibly from today as my sky box had had a firmware update and now allows me to choose the sound setting for hdmi
Dear TrevorFL --
Thank you so much for this most useful information! Unfortunately, I don't own yet a Playbar, precisely because I first want to be sure I will be able to input 5.1
Once I got one (which I hope) I will double-check with your tip.
Thanks again!
-cheers-
Thank you so much for this most useful information! Unfortunately, I don't own yet a Playbar, precisely because I first want to be sure I will be able to input 5.1
Once I got one (which I hope) I will double-check with your tip.
Thanks again!
-cheers-
Hello WifiStrut.
I don't know if you already own a Playbar or not. Read on...
I was reading somewhere here and learned the following. Maybe you already know it but just in case I would share it with you.
Using the IPad or IPhone app (if you have it) you can find out what is your playbar is getting. (Stereo or DD5.1)
Open the app while streaming or playing something that you know it is 5.1.
Select the little "gear" that will take you to the settings.
At the end select "About My Sonos System"
Pay attention to the Playbar setting.
In "Audio In" it will tell you if the current input is stereo or DD 5.1
I was glad to find out. I was sure my TV was passing 5.1 but was planing in getting a toslink switch just to be 110%. Now there is no need to do so.
Have a nice weekend.
Trevor
I don't know if you already own a Playbar or not. Read on...
I was reading somewhere here and learned the following. Maybe you already know it but just in case I would share it with you.
Using the IPad or IPhone app (if you have it) you can find out what is your playbar is getting. (Stereo or DD5.1)
Open the app while streaming or playing something that you know it is 5.1.
Select the little "gear" that will take you to the settings.
At the end select "About My Sonos System"
Pay attention to the Playbar setting.
In "Audio In" it will tell you if the current input is stereo or DD 5.1
I was glad to find out. I was sure my TV was passing 5.1 but was planing in getting a toslink switch just to be 110%. Now there is no need to do so.
Have a nice weekend.
Trevor
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TrevorFL,
I used both the Sony TV by itself and the AppleTV to stream Netflix. Both sent a 5.1 signal to the optical output.
I used both the Sony TV by itself and the AppleTV to stream Netflix. Both sent a 5.1 signal to the optical output.
Sony model KDL-60EX645 does pass DD5.1 from the following HDMI sources: Directv, AppleTV, Samsung BD player. It will also pass DD5.1 from Netflix. I did not test any other streaming services.
BTW, Fry's has a great deal today on Sony XBR 55HX950 for $1919. :D
If I may ask...Witch device are you using to stream from Netfix? The TV app or the Apple TV?
Thank you in advance for your information.
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I bit the bullet and bought a new TV to go with the Playbar/Sub/P3s in my family room. The sound is great and simplifies things over the Monoprice HDMI switch I had before.
Sony model KDL-60EX645 does pass DD5.1 from the following HDMI sources: Directv, AppleTV, Samsung BD player. It will also pass DD5.1 from Netflix. I did not test any other streaming services.
BTW, Fry's has a great deal today on Sony XBR 55HX950 for $1919. 😃
Sony model KDL-60EX645 does pass DD5.1 from the following HDMI sources: Directv, AppleTV, Samsung BD player. It will also pass DD5.1 from Netflix. I did not test any other streaming services.
BTW, Fry's has a great deal today on Sony XBR 55HX950 for $1919. 😃
@TrevorFL
Thanks a lot for having looked into this. Yes, I do have grey options that I noticed when I was looking for your "stop sound" option, which I don't have, even in grey.
However, you gave me a great idea: as soon as I can, I will plug an optical cable out of my TV into an A/V receiver that indicates whether the source is 2.0 or 5.1.
I let everyone know here if my TV passed the test.
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Thanks a lot for having looked into this. Yes, I do have grey options that I noticed when I was looking for your "stop sound" option, which I don't have, even in grey.
However, you gave me a great idea: as soon as I can, I will plug an optical cable out of my TV into an A/V receiver that indicates whether the source is 2.0 or 5.1.
I let everyone know here if my TV passed the test.
-cheers-
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Well I certainly hope it's a firmware revision to support DTS and not a hardware revision as that would be really bad for existing customers.
Thanks. greatly appreciated! However, I tried ti find that in the sound option but could find it. Could you detail me where this option is?
(I didn't have a optical cable plugged into the TV, the option might only appear when a cable is plugged...?)
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Hello WifiStrut...
I noticed that your Sony TV model is not the same. Was looking at the manual of your TV and we don't have the same remote control.
Page 30 of your TV manual mention the following:
"Settings
The Settings icon contains all of the necessary configurations to customize your TV settings. The options you can select may vary. Unavailable options are grayed out or not displayed.
Picture: adjust the picture on your TV to fit your viewing preference.
Sound: customize your sound settings to suit your audio preference. You can also change the settings to output the sound to your connected audio equipment. Screen: adjust the size and shape of the images you see on the screen."
It also mention that is there is an option grayed out will mean that the selection or option is not available.
Maybe that will be the answer, but I am not sure. Let me know if you managed.
Have a good day!
Any chance newer sets will pass DTS (with the hope that the PLAYBAR will add this as well?)
Traditionally, the video industry does not think through audio details very seriously. I think that SONOS hired an experienced video engineer to manage the PLAYBAR project and this engineer brought all of the standard best practices along. Unfortunately, industry "best practices" are a little short in the audio department. Even in the pre high definition days, TV audio was an unloved stepchild.
I have a friend who helped design the studio facilities of a local TV station. He is very particular and carefully matched all of the video cable lengths to insure the best color match between cameras and video processing chains. Here and there you'll find piles of video cable in racks and under the floor who's only function is to equalize cable lengths.
Audio processing!? While better than other stations in the area with respect to lipsync, there are still issues. Even in the control room, lipsync issues are observable. When I complain about lipsync issues the stare that comes back is classic: "Guy, what is it about lipsync that you don't understand? It's gone."
With respect to TV sets, it is possible that a future firmware update might improve things, but it could also degrade audio features if someone is not paying attention (and they usually don't).
Since SONOS has strong audio roots, they are more likely to attempt an improvement.
Yes, I did turn off the Sony internal speakers from the TV set-up menu. Otherwise the sound coming out thru the optical will be stereo only.
Immediately after I turn the internal speakers off, the TV automatically start sending DD audio signal out. No DTS, only DD. But once I do this I start getting the annoying message from the TV every time I change the volume. "TV volume is fixed".
I don't know if there is a way for the TV to turn off the "volume is fixed" withing the TV itself. I did play with almost all the settings and was unable to find it.
What I mentioned in my previous post is that someone suggested at the begining of this topic to use a different brand of remote control other than Sony or something like it. I will need to go back and read again that particular post once I get my Sonos playbar.
Hope I was able to help you. Have a good day.
Hi TrevorFL --
Thanks. greatly appreciated! However, I tried ti find that in the sound option but could find it. Could you detail me where this option is?
(I didn't have a optical cable plugged into the TV, the option might only appear when a cable is plugged...?)
-cheers-
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Mfr: Sony
Model: KDL-55HX800
Firmware: PKG4.114AAT
Passes DD 5.1 through optical cable
Any chance newer sets will pass DTS (with the hope that the PLAYBAR will add this as well?)
Model: KDL-55HX800
Firmware: PKG4.114AAT
Passes DD 5.1 through optical cable
Any chance newer sets will pass DTS (with the hope that the PLAYBAR will add this as well?)
I have a brand new Samsung 60" 7500 series and it DOES NOT pass thru 5.1 from a directv input. The 7500 is an upper scale tv so I dont know how a lesser value TV will pass thru when their better TV's dont.
Samsung 50C6970 passes 5.1 through optical output, tested with playstation3.
may i use this thread to point to an (from my view) extremely important issue/ ask entry
https://ask.sonos.com/sonos/topics/switch_play_3s_between_surround_for_tv_and_stereo_pair_for_music
that pairing/unpairing pain needs to be fixed - adding play3s & a sub to the playbar for a tv show / dvd by pressing buttons each time is a show-stopper for me, as the same happens while unpairing them to get the play3s and the sub back for music listing ( i know pairing the sub with the playbar and then grouping the play3s for music listing could be a work around, but only for music sessions.....)
may i use this thread to point to an (from my view) extremely important issue/ ask entry
https://ask.sonos.com/sonos/topics/switch_play_3s_between_surround_for_tv_and_stereo_pair_for_music
that pairing/unpairing pain needs to be fixed - adding play3s & a sub to the playbar for a tv show / dvd by pressing buttons each time is a show-stopper for me, as the same happens while unpairing them to get the play3s and the sub back for music listing ( i know pairing the sub with the playbar and then grouping the play3s for music listing could be a work around, but only for music sessions.....)
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Anyone have experience with LG TV's other than the 55LX9500 listed on the first page of this thread?
I'm buying my new TV and the playbar at the same time so I have flexibility.
I'm specifically considering 47LM7600 (2012) or 47LA7400 (2013). The best text I can find in their manual is, "Audio with ACP (Audio Copy Protection) function may block digital audio output."
thanks in advance!
I'm buying my new TV and the playbar at the same time so I have flexibility.
I'm specifically considering 47LM7600 (2012) or 47LA7400 (2013). The best text I can find in their manual is, "Audio with ACP (Audio Copy Protection) function may block digital audio output."
thanks in advance!
jjonesx86,
Thanks for the clarification as this will help others.
Thanks for the clarification as this will help others.
It would be useful if you gave the complete model numbers. For example each SAMSUNG model year for the past several years has had an "8500" model, but the feature list is different for each year. For example the newest model would be PNnnF8500 (nn is the size), but there might be a few "E" series units in distribution.
And, unfortunately, any of the TV's can tinker with the feature list with firmware updates.
These are the models of Samsung plasmas that we tested - PN64F8500, PN60F8500 and PN51F8500.
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